9/11 and Hitlers Parliment Building

Hey awesome thread Myth....star for ya ...great homework you have done ..
It all reminds me of Nero too ....history does repeat itself ..




[[IMO Bush didn't know - it was the true PTB that orchestrated that event...he was just a willing pawn after that]

Why then did Condi say they did recieve warnings of airplane attacks on America way before it happened ..she said they did not feel like it was a serious threat (Yeah ok ..what would she consider serious ?) .....I watched that whole fiasco live on TV (from start to finish) of where they were all questioned about 911 ....She knew ..so you know Bush knew ...

Ok so here it is ..(will have to go to link and read ..
Transcript of Rice's 9/11 commission statement

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 Posted: 12:25 AM EDT (0425 GMT
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- National security adviser Condoleezza Rice testified Thursday under oath and in public before the independent National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States investigating the attacks of September 11, 2001. The White House initially refused to allow Rice's public testimony but reversed its position after pressure from relatives of 9/11 victims, commission members and politicians.
www.cnn.com...


HERE IS MORE >>>from another link ..
CLARKE: President Bush was regularly told by the director of Central Intelligence that there was an urgent threat. On one occasion -- he was told this dozens of times in the morning briefings that George Tenet gave him. On one of those occasions, he asked for a strategy to deal with the threat.

Condi Rice came back from that meeting, called me, and relayed what the president had requested. And I said, "Well, you know, we've had this strategy ready since before you were inaugurated. I showed it you. You have the paperwork. We can have a meeting on the strategy any time you want."

She said she would look into it. Her looking into it and the president asking for it did not change the pace at which it was considered. And as far as I know, the president never asked again; at least I was never informed that he asked again. I do know he was thereafter continually informed about the threat by George Tenet.

www.washingtonpost.com...

"A senior government official told the joint inquiry that the information included that bin Laden had wanted to conduct attacks on the United States since 1997. It mentions Al Qaida, including some U.S. citizens, had resided in or traveled to the United States for years and the group apparently maintained a support structure here. The report cited uncorroborated information obtained and disseminated in 1998 that bin Laden wanted to hijack airplanes to gain the release of U.S.-held extremists.

"The FBI judgments about patterns of activity consistent with preparations for hijackings of other types of attacks as well as information acquired in May 2001 that indicated a group of bin Laden supporters were planning attacks in the United States with explosives."

So anyone still want to say they did not know ?

I'd just like to say that through my entire life, and I'm somebody 48, there has always been plenty of war and killing. There always seems to be plenty of money for that, yet they say the world is full of starving children. The Viet Nam war was always very sad to me, lots and lots of young men getting killed, and for what? For who? The Korean war before that. World War II before that, and when you stop to think about it, that wasn't really that long ago. I mean Kennedy assassinated and way before that, Lincoln assassinated. Here more towards the present the Afganistan and Iraq thing. I mean actual atomic bombs have been dropped on cities in Japan and why, why exactly has the human race always have to had behaved this way? I mean there can't be a way for people to have peace and prosperity? Germ warfare. Antharx. Ricin. Bio-weapons. Now I assume that they all think they're perfectly normal and rational people who are just doing what they need to do to produce these things to kill other people with. What's a human being alive and on the earth for, just to kill or be killed? People, we need something different, than this. We've always had a lot of war. I for one wish we could have a thousand years of peace. I mean that would be a switch!

I’m not sure if I agree that Bush was in on it, he seems happy to play puppet. Unlike Hitler, who was a sociopathic genius. He knew just how to play to people’s fears and desperation; he was a master at manipulating situations to his favor and counting on other nation’s weaknesses. Bush is no Hitler, his “handlers” may be.

The Patriot Act is something Hitler would have been proud of, I find the comparisons you’ve made very fitting. As long as the Patriot Act exist we are fooling ourselves by thinking America is a democracy, then again I guess we’ve gotten used to that, the lie didn’t start with the Patriot Act.




[edit on 17-11-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
I’m not sure if I agree that Bush was in on it, he seems happy to play puppet. Unlike Hitler, who was a sociopathic genius. He knew just how to play to people’s fears and desperation; he was a master at manipulating situations to his favor and counting on other nation’s weaknesses. Bush is no Hitler, his “handlers” may be.

The Patriot Act is something Hitler would have been proud of, I find the comparisons you’ve made very fitting. As long as the Patriot Act exist we are fooling ourselves by thinking America is a democracy, then again I guess we’ve gotten used to that, the lie didn’t start with the Patriot Act.




[edit on 17-11-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

If Bush is not a puppet, then he is the best actor/mastermind of the ages.

Leaning more towards puppet of course.

What about Rumsfield. Bush is only a little pawn. Everyone talks big game but if you sit back and look at what is happening it is crazy. Everyone knows about 9/11. That is history look at now. The DNC told the RNP if you let ous have our war we will let you have anyone I mean anyone be the president. Now look what happend you had a black man and a woman run. THe RNP picked a 72 year old man who did not personallly do a background check on his running mate. he was 8 points ahead until her. now we will sit back and be pawns in this new world. Oh yeah by the way my grandmother who lives in a rule town in Virginia was told to ride in the back uf the bus. Welcome to the NEW WORLD ORDER!!!

reply to post by OldMedic


They were trained in amerikan flying schools and at least one was reported to the FBI. The FBI told the field agent involved to keep her mouth shut. A team of Isaeli agents was seen in New Jersey not only filming the attack but cheering as well. There were several people that knew about the attacks before they occured. With out the attacks the neocons would have no way to get amerika involved in Iraq, which wazs the whole purpose of having Bush in office.

Originally posted by cognoscente
reply to post by TheMythLives

 

It's really hard for war veterans to realize the truth of their involvement and its whole significance, especially since many of them had lost several friends and suffered to an extent we could not even imagine. And although that's all well and true, it's the sad truth that sometimes their actions were insignificant or rather unnecessary. This aggrandizement of their actions has stemmed a culture of intolerance, which targets anyone that actually digs deep enough to discern fact from the intrinsic beliefs held by those involved. I mean, just because one suffers, doesn't give them the right to oppress the truth, no matter how much they don't want it spread. If they don't want to listen, they should cover their ears.

And ignore OldMedic. He's a plain old troll. Take a look at his -8,000 ATS points.

[edit on 16-11-2008 by cognoscente]

I quoted your entire post because this point is very important. Especially with myself as being a former military person. Well, the fact is that people don't want to think that they were or are manipulated. That's what it comes down to. They don't want to think that they took part in something that was essentially illegal. That they killed innocent people (normally who were in the wrong place at the wrong time, then again, they were usually at home so I guess it was the wrong place but just the wrong time) because they were TOLD that their mission was a just cause.

Oldmedic is definitely one of the most blatantly ignorant (not in a bad way, ignorant in the fact that he/she can never accept anything outside of his own reality) posters on this site. If your view or opinion doesn't fall in line then you are an idiot spreading lies. It's sad really.

My eyes have been opened and simply fall in line with my suspicians from my time in the service. I worked with the men (all men, not one female in my brigade) that made the calls. I worked with the commander and thus even with the division general. And their plans were always about manipulating the troops. Because after all, the lies were justified by the end results. Total garbage.

To medic, well my friend, I'm sorry that you really don't think that the Patriot Acts and the allowance of spying on the civilians and not holding the telco companies responsible is just fine and dandy and falls in line with what your view of America is. Because of course, nothing out of the norm has happened. Nope.

reply to post by TheAgentNineteen


You see agent, this is a tough one to swallow. You say this 'acquaintance' saw one of the hijackers going over plane schematics in a library. First, one would ask, which terrorist. Second, why would your 'acquaintance' recall something like this? Unless he was sent to specifically watch. It's not like that would be out of the ordinary actions by anyone at a library.

You see, I can say that my friends, dogs, fleas (that came from), the cat next door, that was sold to them by a guy in Maine, that walked by a dude once on the street, who saw a guy in the library going over 757 schematics.

You see, the term 'acquaintance' doesn't fly to well here. I have a LOT of acquantances.

reply to post by Unlimitedpossibilities


Certain people (don't know who) try to make FDR look like an idiot, just as "W" looks like an idiot. FDR was a LEADER of this country, everyone agrees on that whether or not you liked his politics...GWBush, on the other hand...what leadership has he shown?

Roosevelt claimed Neutrality and did everything to anger the Japanese.

That is a little twisted right there, yes Roosevelt halted metal and oil supplies trade to Japan and that is there main reason for attack but the Japanese were also attempting to take out Pearl Harbor because it was our strongest naval fleet on the west coast and they figured destroying it would demoralize us as it tried to "unite" the world into one big happy family. We also demanded they withdraw from Indo-China since we opposed the expansion of their empire.

wiki.answers.com...

www.pearlharbor.org...

Good OP.

Reminds me of this thread: Similarities With Hitlers Staged Provocations - www.abovetopsecret.com...

Hitler's rise to power in Germany displays a remarkable manipulation of events to develop and explain evil objectives. The Reichstag Fire of February 27, 1933, is a prime example of such behavior.

To counter the apparent "crisis" threatening Germany, Hitler proposed a series of programs whereby all the central government would take on all the power and political function of the German states. The Enabling Act of 1933 gave the central government responsibility for all law enforcement and conferred on Hitler exclusive powers of decision making. This effectively transformed Hitler from chancellor to dictator. Hitler's promises that "the government will only make use of these poers insofar as they are essentially for carrying out vitally necessary measures" soon revealed themselves to be completely empty...

Those who dont learn from history are doomed to repeat themselves...

reply to post by TheAgentNineteen


An aquaintace of mine saw your aquaintance at Mc Donalds at the time in Question cmon now do you really believe he saw this guy studying airplane schematics???? LOL

Does anybody remember BUSH saying on a national televised event that when he saw!! the first plane crash........ There was NO first plane crash footage until the next day! which was released by a group doing a documentary in NY. So yes I do believe that BUSH was behind it, they all are. For NORTHCOM to stand down takes the VP or President's authorization, and where was the president... people need to re-watch that video.

reply to post by Solan



I totally forgot about that, thanks for reminding me I will link this to another thread I am working on. Anywhere here have that video by any chance?

I thought this was rather interesting:

On 11 September, while Al-Qaeda's planes slammed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the Carlyle Group hosted a conference at a Washington hotel. Among the guests of honour was a valued investor: Shafig bin Laden, brother to Osama. [Guardian]

The morning of the attack George Bush Sr. is meets with members of the Carlyle Group in Washington. Bin Laden's own brother is at the meeting. [CBC]

I also thought this article was interesting:
Bin Ladens Liquidate Holdings

I have not even heard of the Carlyle group until the NY times artcle.

The Carlyle group:

The firm has employed political figures and notable investors. Some of these figures, such as former US President George H. W. Bush and former US Secretary of State James A. Baker III, have generated controversy stemming from allegations of conflicts of interest.

More on the Carlyle Group and its Investors

I just thought this little add on was a little important, so here it is let me know what you folks think.

[edit on -06002008-11-29T10:41:44-06:00302008bAmerica/ChicagoSat, 29 Nov 2008 10:41:44 -0600, 1 by TheMythLives]

Very Interesting, perhaps the Carlyle group is another one of those organizations that connected with everyone. Keep this thread going, maybe we will find something!

I think this thread is important and since its the New Year, we may find more additions for it. Keep this thread going.

reply to post by DreamWalker2009


Wow thanks for your motviation, I was suprised to see my thread jump back to the top. Thanks for the kind words and I will do my best to add more fuel to this thread.

More news on the Carlyle Group:

Carlyle group makes an important buy

In my honest opinion this was the disaster needed to open up the final doors for the NWO. Now all the NWO needs is a disaster to happen and the masses will accept it with open arms. The solution to the problem (The Coming Disaster) is the most scariest. The world will need as many people as necessary to help aid in the fall of the NWO.