Queen to step down in five years - says Royal source

Originally posted by monkeybus

Thats if nothing happens to, Prince.Charles, in the meantime.

If the Queen Steps down In 5 Years, Then the Entire Royal Family Steps down,

She is saying this, because she is scared that she will go the same way as Princess Dianna.(Killed)

[edit on 16-11-2036 by monkeybus]

[edit on 16-11-2008 by monkeybus]

what a ridiculous thing to say. you obviously have no idea what your talking about. diana was taken out by her own monarchy as she was such an embarrassment.

no one is going to take out the queen.

[edit on 17-11-2008 by predisposed]

Originally posted by Vitchilo
Yeah, she'll step down because she will have done what his whole family of crooks worked for the last 100 years, establish a new world order. A global government run by the banks, by the ``royal`` families of England.

Those anglo-saxons... what a bunch of imperialists.

One thing is sure, she'll go to hell.

[edit on 16-11-2008 by Vitchilo]

So not only to believe the conspiracy that the Royal Monarchy has a say in creating the new world order...

But you also believe the conspiracy that there is a hell?

Wow... looks like you are all over the place.

Originally posted by WishForWings
The Monarchy has long since lost all power anyway, there is no point for it anymore.
Personally I think it's a waste of the English tax payers money, so the little princesses can have fancy dress parties and actually EARN their money like everyone else.

"The Devil's greatest accomplishment was convincing the world he didn't exist."

The Royal family has a lot more power than you think.

# the Queen alone may declare war at her pleasure;

# as commander-in-chief, the Queen may choose and appoint all commanders and officers by land, sea, and air;

# the Queen may convoke, adjourn, remove, and dissolve Parliament;

# the Queen may dismiss the prime minister and choose whom she will as the replacement;

# the Queen can choose and appoint all judges, councillors, officers of state, magistrates;

# the Queen can choose and appoint all archbishops (including the Archbishop of Canterbury, who is primus inter pares in the Anglican Communion), bishops, and high ecclesiastical dignitaries;

# as ``the Sovereign is first in honour, dignity and in power--and the seat and fountain of all three,'' the Queen may bestow all public honours, including creating a peerage for membership in the House of Lords or bestowing an order of chivalry;

# the Queen alone may conclude treaties;

# the Queen may initiate criminal proceedings, and she alone can bestow a pardon.


And these are the ones we know about.

Originally posted by tombangelta

Originally posted by WishForWings
The Monarchy has long since lost all power anyway, there is no point for it anymore.
Personally I think it's a waste of the English tax payers money, so the little princesses can have fancy dress parties and actually EARN their money like everyone else.

"The Devil's greatest accomplishment was convincing the world he didn't exist."

This quote of yours was the very first CON that any monkey played on another to insitgate fear of those very things that were essential.

reply to post by tombangelta

When was the last time a British monarch did all those things on their own without Parliament's approval?

Oh yeah, his name was King Charles I and he got his head cut off for it. Not that his replacement (the bastard Cromwell) was any better ...

Originally posted by sotp
I would however like to see the monarchy/civil list shrunk to just include the immediate family of the Queen.

Well, given that it's just the Queen and her husband who receive payments from the Civil List, I'd say that about covers it.

I beg to add, reminding all that I am not a subject, that the existence of a royal line incorporated with a government doesn't seem so alarming, except in instances where the subjects resist rule. I'm glad some see that it works out in the 'business model' of your nation. But I think it is an admirable thing to question the 'divine right' to rule.

Such notions are rarely justified in these kinds of exchanges. I would wonder how it is that such a 'lineage' mentality evolves and becomes so central to the community. I mean, so much so as to stir rancorous feelings, if challenged.

[edit on 17-11-2008 by Maxmars]

reply to post by whoswatchinwho


No, it was in no way aimed at you. It was in reply to wishforwings' statement about princesses and party dresses

Originally posted by tombangelta

"The Devil's greatest accomplishment was convincing the world he didn't exist."

The Royal family has a lot more power than you think.

You make the Queen and the monarchy sound fantastic! Imagine sitting on all that power and not really abusing it! It must be tempting but Betty somehow just swallows it down every morning and just keeps herself busy with the corgis. Me, I'm a lesser human being because I'd have caved after 50 or so years of having all that power in front of me. You've got to admire her for that, haven't you?

I mean just think, she could be a President of some big country somewhere, starting wars for the benefit of their mates' firms, influencing and changing laws and so on, pardoning themselves...

I thank Lord Krondar that we've got a Queen and not some crazy President of a Republic!

[edit on 18-11-2008 by Merriman Weir]

reply to post by ChrisF231


...the royal family instated parliament

Prince Charles is a very genuine guy. He is seriously into organic foods, environmental issues, respects all religions, likes a good laugh, helps young people, brings attention to issues to help improve peoples quality of life etc.

He is described as "a dissident who works against majority political opinions". It is good to have such an alternative viewpoint with some influence as he is certainly not 'part of the system'.

I started in business with help from his charity (Princes Youth Business Trust) when I had no job and absolutely no money. No bank would touch me so I thank him for giving me a chance in life.

reply to post by Wotan


Oh please, the queen can take a hike! But anyway, Charles is slotted (or slutted) to become the EU Chancellor or whatever they call the ehad of the EU these days. The Queen has in fact signed the 7th EU treaty, she did this in June 2008, so as of January 1, 2009, Great Britain, legally, is no more. The queen can do what she wants with GB, it's pooched anyway. It's the colonies like Canada, Australia and New Zealand that I am a bit concerned about.

Originally posted by stumason
Let's not even go into what my £800 a month income tax or £250 a month National Insurance doesn't get me....

Sheesh! it must be hard earning THAT MUCH!

No sympathy here.

[edit on 20/11/2008 by nerbot]

reply to post by infinite


something like this comes out every ten years or so

the queen has said on camera that she will never abdicate

david

Originally posted by infinite


In seems the undemocratic musical chairs is to once again formulate into another unelected head of state in the United Kingdom. According to members of the Royal House, the Queen has openly discussed a desire to step aside and allow the heir to the throne to become King. Britain and other commonwealth realms will have a new head of state within the next five years.

Recent news has suggested Charles wishes to be called King George VII (the name Charles is associated with times of revolution in British history) and will become a political monarch - just like Spain and the Netherlands. However, in a recent opinion poll, 50% of the United Kingdom oppose a political monarch. Some monarchists fear a rise in republicanism if the new King obstructs Parliament.

www.express.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

Undemocratic? The UK undemocratic, that`s just plain daft!

The UK is the most Democratic country on this planet. And believe it or not my friend, the Royal Family are held in a higher regard than you think by the people of the UK - I, and thousands like me, swore "Allegiance" to the "Queen" and our country when serving in "Her Majesty`s Armed Forces". And I still hold that Allegiance to this day.
Don`t always believe what any poll says or what the lying media prints or broadcasts, they want you to believe what they print and broadcast.
I would rather have a Royal Family and a Parliament, than some Mickey-Mouse President or Dictator.

God Save The Queen.

The UK is the most Democratic country on this planet.

The government's anti-terror legislation begs to differ. Plus, Parliament cannot question the future of the Head of State in the Commons. Far from democratic. Oh, we cannot even protest outside Parliament or Buckingham Palace for that matter. Again, not something you'd expect in a democracy.

It is a fallacy to suggest we are the "most Democratic country on this planet" - we do not elect the Head of State. It is extremely facetious to suggest a Monarchy is more democratic than a republic like Ireland

Heck, we do not even elect our government, just a representative.

Originally posted by infinite


In seems the undemocratic musical chairs is to once again formulate into another unelected head of state in the United Kingdom. According to members of the Royal House, the Queen has openly discussed a desire to step aside and allow the heir to the throne to become King. Britain and other commonwealth realms will have a new head of state within the next five years.

Recent news has suggested Charles wishes to be called King George VII (the name Charles is associated with times of revolution in British history) and will become a political monarch - just like Spain and the Netherlands. However, in a recent opinion poll, 50% of the United Kingdom oppose a political monarch. Some monarchists fear a rise in republicanism if the new King obstructs Parliament.

www.express.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

does it matter? their duties are really only ceremonial so does it matter that they are not elected?

Yes, Yes, lets blame our Queen for everything, Yerp lets blame our princes aswell about all the problems we face. Oh, our Queen, she does absolutely nothing and doesn't give a toss about any of her British subjects.

*I cannot believe I just typed that*

I'm sick and tired hearing that #e everywhere I go. You have no idea what our Monarch has done for our nation and It's not her fault the state this damn forsaken nation is in either! She has no power! Queen Victoria was the last reigning Monarch to have absolute control of the British Empire, and the government. However, even that "absolute control" was limited! But until she passed in 1901, that was it, the beginning of government taken over the British Empire and later destroying it for their own political greed!

(btw look up government movements against the Monarchy, alot in history, look how many times they tried to seize power before 1901)

Anyway... Our Queen, served during WW2 unlike many of those politicians, and speaking of them... Many of the politicians today have no clue of anything, she understands the British people way much more than politicians, and I believe If our Monarch, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II had been raised to be a Queen, a solid Monarch... our Nation would not be in such a mess, and the people "to her" come first. We'll all know the truth soon enough, I expect many British citizens will resent her, especially those born from immigrant familes.


God save the Queen


(I'm Scottish)

[edit on 20-11-2008 by Starance]

We don't live in a Feudalistic society anymore, therefor there is no need for a King, Queen or any other 'Titled' position of 'authority', though then again the people of England have the right to carry on the lengthy tradition of the Royal family if they so choose to do so in my opinion.

Just don't expect myself or another American to bow down to 'any' human being. According to history, that never seems to work out very well. No human should have 'absolute' authority over another and they intuitively know so, therefor if one does subjugate themself to another, it is their choice and so are the consequences.




[edit on 21-11-2008 by Perseus Apex]

reply to post by WishForWings


what makes you say she is the queen of ENGLAND
you are really an asshole..its BRITAIN
...oh god!!!