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Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration? Never Actually Register? Obama

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posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 02:06 PM
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Well according to the census bureau 201.1 million are of voting age.

www.census.gov...

According to CNN McCain got 58,272,729 and 46% of the vote, not 48%.

That means 28.9% of the people of voting age voted for McCain. and 33.1% for Obama. So don't just go throwing around numbers without making sure you're actually right.


With that said if you look up the the selective service act.
www.docstoc.com...
Section 462 subsection D clearly states that the statute of limitations is 5 years. So even if he didn't register he couldn't be charged with it now.

Also I could make a document that looked exactly like this in under a hour with photoshop so this doesn't exactly have the hugest credibility.

[edit on 15-11-2008 by djpaec]



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 02:23 PM
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For those of you who don't bother to read the links concerning Obama's Selective Service Registration, or may not understand the flaws in it, I am posting a video link, to help visually..In this interview they are going over Obama's Selective Service Registration with Debbie Schlussel, explaining why this document is a fraud.
Of course, as we all know, the "ObamaBobbleheads" will say "this is not proof", or they will say "look at the source"...
If the "ObamaBobbleheads" want to keep dreaming, then let them stay on the dashboard where they belong

www.breitbart.tv...



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by indigothefish


obama preached to the poor and uneducated, that's how he won, i'm surprised you didn't know that it's pretty obvious, he dumbed down everything for everyone and never laid out much except "change" and "hope" haha, like a said, he's a joke, and the idiot in the video represents those that voted for him.


Unfortunately, you're wrong. Obama had more of the richest demographic (people making more than 200 thousand dollars per year in 2007) than McCain. But don't worry, nut jobs never let the facts get in the way. Obama also did better with college educated voters. In fact, the smartest voters, people with a Master's degree or higher overhwelmingly went for Obama by an 18 point difference.



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 03:22 PM
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Just cause you have a master's degree doesn't mean you have any common sense.

Also, just because you have a master's degree doesn't mean you know what you're talking about, it just means you where told something and you gave the answers that the test required.

On another note, this forgery doesn't surprise me either since he has a forged birth certificate.

-Lahara



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 03:27 PM
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I am not a Signature Expert in any way, but I find it weird that someone's signature is not allowed to change over a 25 year time span. It seems like a ridiculous premise to put forward, without first looking at anything besides Obama's most recent signatures for comparison.

Obama would have been 18 when he signed up for Selective Service. His signature now, would be much more refined after years of signing documents. I would like anyone in the world to show me examples of documents signed 25 years apart where the signatures are exact, especially after the person has signed as many things as Obama would have. Try it, go find one of your College papers, and I imagine fyour hand writing has changed a great deal.

Besides that, I find it strange that the "O" in Obama is not at all the same.
In a previous thread, I noted that Obama's 'O' was reminiscent of the Alchemical Symbol for Sulphiric Acid, but in the 'older' signature, that meaning would be changed, seemingly to represent the 'mineral kingdom'


Vitirol


Sulphiric Acid


Mineral Kingdom.

If the signature proves to be 'authentic' on the selective service form, then either my theory about Obama's use of symbols is shot, or at least he had not yet gained the knowledge in 1980 at such an early age. If the signature from 1980 is fake, then I imagine Obama will have some explaining to do, but it is very likely that both Signatures are his regardless of possible embedded symbolism.

Who better to bring "Change" than a man who uses 'Sulfuric Acid' as a symbol in his signature, right? I guess if you want that 'Change' be eaten with holes....

VOTE for H2SO4!
DocMoreau



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by TheRandom1
reply to post by ClintK
 


Just cause you have a master's degree doesn't mean you have any common sense.

Also, just because you have a master's degree doesn't mean you know what you're talking about, it just means you where told something and you gave the answers that the test required.

On another note, this forgery doesn't surprise me either since he has a forged birth certificate.

-Lahara


Yeah, I'm sure people with Master's degrees and doctorates have less common sense than the average high school dropout.


And talk about common sense, here you are getting suckered in by some paranoid conspiracy fairy tales! Keep tappin' those heals together!



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 03:54 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure people with Master's degrees and doctorates have less common sense than the average high school dropout.


And talk about common sense, here you are getting suckered in by some paranoid conspiracy fairy tales! Keep tappin' those heals together!


Agreed with your post. These negative post only shows the ignorance that people possess on this thread. This thread blows



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 04:02 PM
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There is a major difference between common sense and intelligence, you can be a very intelligent person, but make poor decisions, many have in the past, many do now and many will in the future.


Prove to me that just because you have a piece of paper that says you're smart actually proves that you are.

Prove to me that just because you have a piece of paper that says you're smart means you have common sense and make good decisions.

Prove to me that just because you have a piece of paper that says you're smart means that you do not get caught up in euphoria or are subject to the hypnotism broadcast over the tv and internet.


I believe that this conspiracy theory is more of a fact than theory simply because of the evidence, show me the contrary or shut up.

-Lahara



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by TheRandom1
reply to post by ClintK
 


There is a major difference between common sense and intelligence, you can be a very intelligent person, but make poor decisions, many have in the past, many do now and many will in the future.


Prove to me that just because you have a piece of paper that says you're smart actually proves that you are.

Prove to me that just because you have a piece of paper that says you're smart means you have common sense and make good decisions.

Prove to me that just because you have a piece of paper that says you're smart means that you do not get caught up in euphoria or are subject to the hypnotism broadcast over the tv and internet.


I believe that this conspiracy theory is more of a fact than theory simply because of the evidence, show me the contrary or shut up.

-Lahara


Anybody who really had common sense would know that there's a correlation between education and making good decisions. High school dropouts don't exactly have a reputation for making smart decisions, which is why so many end up in jail. I never claimed there was a cause-effect relationship between education and common sense, just answered a post that said Obama won because it was the "ignorant" people who voted for him. That was incorrect.

And no, I won't shut up. This is just like that birth certificate fantasy. The head of the Hawii Department of Health said it was genuine but that wasn't enough for the nut jobs. Now that is lacking common sense.

But it's still fun to see you guys get all worked up over nonsense.


Have a good night. I'm going to show a lack of common sense and head out for a few beers.

[edit on 15-11-2008 by ClintK]



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 04:19 PM
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I'm not sure what the problem is with the certificate. I didn't see a problem and frankly, it's not worth spending any further time with it because I'm sure it's just more of the same.

My signature - over the years - has changed drastically. If that's the best "evidence" that something nefarious is going on, then I'm not inclined to look deeper.


Originally posted by FlyersFan
48% of Americans DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA. Almost 60 million Americans does not equal a 'tiny amount' in this country.


But those 60 million aren't throwing a fit. The vast majority of that 48% are sad, but hoping for the best even though "their guy" didn't win. They didn't get what they wanted, but they're willing to come together as a nation behind our new president and put their selfish wants aside and go forward. The small percentage refuse to do this.



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by indigothefish
obama preached to the poor and uneducated, that's how he won,

I thought it was more like this - the 38.5 million $$$ he got in illegal campaign contributions from overseas is what made it possible for him to win. The candidate with the most $$$ nearly always wins. The gov't said there was so much $$$ and so many contributions from overseas that they aren't even going to investigate because they dont have the resources to do so.

He won due to foreign $$$ influence - and the blessing of the Bildebergers.


Originally posted by djpaec
According to CNN McCain got 58,272,729 and 46% of the vote, not 48%.
So don't just go throwing around numbers without making sure you're actually right.


and the local paper said McCain got 48%.

The FACT IS that the number of people who did not vote for Obama is not a tiny amount. The poster said it was just a tiny amount of people.

geeeeeeeeeeeeze .... snarky .... :shk:


Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
put their selfish wants aside

That's so transparent. But I'm sure you know that.


Hear that all you Bush bashers over the past 8 years
... you are all selfish for not being lock step in line with the POTUS!



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 05:53 PM
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Obama won...stop crying losers



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 06:21 PM
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What is it with you yanks and trying to slate everyone in humanity but your selfs, for # sake get over the fact he is black and stop trying to be clever about your racism.

Even if it isn't racism, just stop being a bunch of ott twats full stop! #ing assholes or what, I really do like a lot of Americans. Your constant trying to knock this seemingly great guy down since day one is beyond pathetic though, and yet another clear example why the world has such negative judgments and opinions on your nation as a hole.

About time your lesser citizens start shutting the hell up, what an absolute joke. I've just had it with sitting by reading this crap, you make us ATS'ers and your nation look like fools, and motivated by what exactly? the colour of his skin!



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
... you are all selfish for not being lock step in line with the POTUS!



It's not about being in "lock-step". azzllin said that we have a tiny amount of spoilsports, to which you responded that 48% voted for someone else. I'm just saying that 48% aren't being spoiled sports about it. Only about 2%, from what I've seen.

And this has nothing to do with Bush. The judgments against him are for how he did his job. Obama's job hasn't even begun yet.



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 07:17 PM
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That is from 1980 not 2008, look where it says "today's date"

By the way that site is completely racist if you read some of the other articles, umm...are you a racist?

[edit on 15-11-2008 by Shocka]



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 07:51 PM
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The summer of 1980 is also when he traveled to Kenya.

I can't find dates of travel.

Was he even in Hawaii on July 30th?



posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by Shocka
That is from 1980 not 2008, look where it says "today's date"

By the way that site is completely racist if you read some of the other articles, umm...are you a racist?

[edit on 15-11-2008 by Shocka]


So questioning Obama and his shady past, horrible policies, ect. makes someone a racist? man you sure are ignorant, I guess Obama has rewritten what the word "racist" means, I guess it's sorta like when Bush rewrote what the word "patriot" means or when Clinton rewrote what the word "is" means.

Go take your narrow minded brainwashed foolishness somewhere else, we're try to deny ignorance, not welcome it with open arms.

-Lahara



posted on Nov, 16 2008 @ 02:47 AM
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I'm from the old school. He's our new President. Let's stop trying to cripple the leader of our country. Let's begin to join together, despite some differences, and rebuild America. I'm really disappointed when I see people trying to tear America apart piece by piece.

While you are ripping Obama, how about tearing apart an American flag or two if it makes you happier.

Too many sore losers. Comeon. I didn't vote for him either, but I will support him 100% as President.



posted on Nov, 16 2008 @ 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
And this has nothing to do with Bush. The judgments against him are for how he did his job. Obama's job hasn't even begun yet.

The perfect example of hypocrisy.

You call people 'selfish' when they do not wish to stand behind a POTUS that they know will take this country in a direction that isn't good for it. You call them 'selfish' for exposing the negative about 'The One'.

But it's perfectly fine to expose the negative things about Bush43 because he has already been POTUS for a while?

That's lame. Length of time in office as POTUS has NOTHING to do with anything. Obama has a track record and has stated what he intends to do. He has PLENTY of baggage he's carrying around as well. To turn a blind eye to lies, corruption, and/or illegalities just because he won an election is NOT healthy for this country.

Your name calling reveals that you don't understand the American political system and our rights as free citizens.


Reminder to all - this is AMERICA. Obamamites may not want freedom of speech when it comes to Obama - and it's understandable why (freedom to expose Obama's shortcomings sure puts a crack in the messiah facade which is very painful for his followers I'm sure) - but this is still America and exposing bad plans and lies of politicians is an important part of our political process.

TO THE OP - this possible false Selective Service Registration is just as important as the information about Bush43 that came out during his campaign for POTUS - that he may have been AWOL during his time in the National Guard and that his dad may have gotten him out of active duty. It all goes to tell about the Character of the person. Plus - being AWOL and falsifying Selective Service Registrations are both against the law. Nothing will come of this information because it will get swept clean by those Obama followers who think it's 'selfish' to expose the lies and corruption of Obama, but don't ever be afraid of telling the truth. Otherwise, we end up living in a mirror of Nazi Germany.



posted on Nov, 16 2008 @ 07:30 AM
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I agree with the 2% theory. Some of you will do ANYTHING to try to discredit Obama, no matter how ridiculous, and no matter how discredited and marginal the sources. The bottom line is, this is an absolute negation of common sense. I would not boast about having common sense if I took the most flimsy, unsupported "facts" from websites created by people who need serious help, and tried to use that to negate an election that's a done deal. All you have to look forward to is four (actually eight) years of personal misery while making a spectacle of yourselves. Of course, that's what conspiracy sites are for, right?



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