Thoughts/Opinions as to WHY Abductions may happen to specific people/families

reply to post by alien


Thinking about what happened with your friend; some people have set up cameras at night and recorded their sleep.
On the nights they were visited they either

1. Got up in the middle of the night and switched the camera off, even though they don't remember doing it the next morning.
2. The camera malfunctioned and didn't record correctly.

The aliens can have quite an influence on their surroundings.

reply to post by mystiq

They want to access other people's solar system, galaxy's electromagnetic energy, which is the free energy everyone talks about, that clocks the star. It shortens the life the system, eventually the universe.

It what way does it shorten?
I can shorten a physical journey by going faster.
Do they shorten life by making time go quicker?

Addressing the subject of alien abductions of specific individuals and/or multiple family members over a period of time, I have to go with the idea of a scientific study of specific physical traits of those persons. I first heard it suggested by Walter (Walt) Andrus of MUFO back in the 1990’s that this was being reported and the theory had serious potential and merit.

This is even more notable when one takes into consideration that most of the abduction cases could be regarded as a species research project in similar fashion to the type of species research we conduct on lower life forms. After all, if you break it down to basic actions, it is exactly the same way we research lower life forms in the wild. Locate, capture, test, record vitals and stats, tag, release and return later to repeat the process for a comparison.

So, having some sort of notable physical difference that gives an advantage might make you or your family susceptible to abductions. Beware Michael Phelps, beware. Having a dolphin like body, huge feet and an overwhelming success at the Olympics might make him a target for a research paper.

Now, to qualify myself on the matter since we are putting the cards on the proverbial table;
Do I believe aliens have or still do visit this earth, yes, yes I do.
Do I believe that there are people who fabricate alien encounters for various reasons, yes, yes I do.
Do I believe there will be some sort of disclosure, yes, I do, but only when those aliens are ready for it to happen and not a moment sooner. Why would the aliens conduct themselves in secret and not wish disclosure prior to and up to that moment? I’ll explain that in a moment.

Will they bring us hope, salvation, spirituality, etc? No, and neither would we take such a thing to another planet. There may be a scientific exchange of some kind but it would be limited.

Think about what we would do if the roles were reversed. If we were to visit another world, would we willingly supply a technical advantage to one government faction over another? No, we could not in good conscience allow ourselves to become involved in their disputes, but we would continue with our research and ignore their plights. Once they could become advanced enough to accept our existence without attempting to use our technology to kill each other, we could then make a spectacle of contacting their world in an official manner.

If we keep this logic in mind, we can understand that we are not ready for the aliens who visit us to announce their presence as we still fight and kill each other over invisible lines on the ground and which holidays to celebrate in December. When you really think about it, we cannot even accept our own legitimately elected officials, let alone officials from other countries. Is it any wonder that someone from another world would feel that the earth is not ready for disclosure?


[edit on 11/15/2008 by eaganthorn]

reply to post by Dewm0nster


Slightly off topic, but

An interesting experiment for you.

Just sit quietly for a few minutes on you own with your eyes shut.
Now you can be quiet by not opening your mouth, even young children can manage that.
You must have a quiet mind, don't think of anything!
Just like not talking, but in your mind.

So complete silence ? or not?
and if not where does it come from?
It can't be you, you are being silent.
Interesting?

reply to post by Dewm0nster


Thank you for your clarification of that.

And while some people may take offense to your reply, I think its just as valid an opinion/thought as any really. After all the initial question asked here was for peoples thoughts and opinions as to why these things may happen to specific people/families.

Again as much as people may be discomforted by the possibility that what they may have experienced might merely be rooted more in the brain than 'beyond'...it is still a possibility and certainly one that more than a few people would consider far more 'reality based' than the prospect that ET and his buddies (or whomever/whatever) is somehow visiting, abducting, doing all manner of things.

So I do thank you for your input on it.


...I will also add this old saying, for all of us to be cognisant of: "Its not what you say - its how you say it that matters".


Peace.

[edit on 15-11-2008 by alien]

reply to post by alien


By eaganthorn

Addressing the subject of alien abductions of specific individuals and/or multiple family members over a period of time,
I have to go with the idea of a scientific study of specific physical traits of those persons.
I first heard it suggested by Walter (Walt) Andrus of MUFO back in the 1990’s that this was being reported and the theory had serious potential and merit.

This is my theory, very much in it's infancy, I have done very little research so far.

I think that Neanderthal man was intelligent and did not die out all those years ago, I think he was swamped by more modern Homo sapiens.
But interbreeding went on. There is some evidence to support this.

Through DNA and physical characteristics we may find some common traits. What would be more interesting would be to combine this with psychological profiling and testing of the group and a control group.

Neanderthal man had a larger skull which would suggest a larger brain, because a larger brain is trying to develop in a smaller skull,
then the inner parts of the brain will be larger and the outer parts less developed.

I am not saying any is better or worse, just different,

The more developed parts would include:
Logical thought
Memory
Very sensitive senses such as hearing and taste.
A sixth sense
Physical empathy

The less would be:
Physical dexterity
Autopilot function
Ego
Imagination
Emotions
Emotional empathy

Perhaps this makes these people less human and more grey like?
Or is this there intention?

...laying a few more cards on the table as to where I'm coming from with much of what I post around this topic:

I'll try to keep it as brief as possible, don't wish to turn this into a novel.

I'm a New Zealander. Born and bred here. Grew up for the most part in a small town. Youngest of four children. My parents are still living, retired now, but come from strong teaching/education/nursing/healing backgrounds and careers.

I am also Maori (you may wish to Google that for more info). Maori is the ethnic culture I am from. In many ways Maori have similarities with Native American Indians in how we perceive the world, life, existance, spirituality, land and our interrelationships and connections with all things.
So it was the Maori culture and context I grew up in, learnt and thus formulated much of my own mindset based upon/influenced by.

I've heard/read it many times that Maori are referred to as a 'spiritual people'. I personally agree with that. Many of our healing methods and approachs to what may trouble us are spiritually based, medicenes and the like are traditionally natural - gathered and prepared from what the land/sea itself provides us.

Spirits, ghosts, whatever you choose to call them, things that go bump in the night...all that woo-woo stuff is something not at all uncommon to us. Certainly not to my family.

My mother is seen by many as a Healer. She would of course NEVER claim such...as is the way...a saying/rule within our people: "Me mahia i te ngakau mahaki" ("Work with a humble heart")
She is an immediate descendent of a lineage of recognised (within Maoridom) Healers. She volunteers her time now to helping within a Healing Group where her and Dad live. She is one who hears things, sees things, 'receives and passes on messages for/to people', all that...just as others within my family/lineage do/have done.

My father also is a descendent of seers, hearers, Healers...both Spiritual Healers and Healers who utilised our natural medicenes we term Rongoa (again perhaps Google that word).
Many within my family and extended family have *spiritual* perspectives and experiences. So yes - perhaps elements of the 'paranormal' could see seen as quite 'normal' within my family/lineage.

Our word for spiritual healers is 'Tohunga Wairua', for medicene based healers (though there is often spiritual crossovers) is 'Tohunga Rongoa/Wairakau'...Tohunga might be seen as similar to 'Shaman' in other cultures.
Within my lineage are also elements referred to as 'Tohunga Makutu' - or those who were considered skilled practioners in the darker/negative realms of curses/afflictions and the like.

These *visitations* are also not uncommon within my lineage, nor within the Maori cultural concept. We may have different perspectives/understandings of what they are though based upon our culture.

We refer to them as 'Kehua'...as spirits, malicious in nature, that for whatever reason essentially plague the living or specific lineages. Under the *umbrella* of that term Kehua are I guess 'sub-sets' of Kehua with different names, different forms, different possible roles.
Another term we have for another type of entity is Ngangara. Ngangara are lizards, Skinks etc in one usage of the word...but Ngangara in the *spiritual* usage refers to 'attachment entities'...things seen to latch on to people, to influence, drain, effect them etc. They are described by some as being in the form of a Lizard - which varies in size, colour, intent.

I've spoken with many different people, Tohunga etc over many years about these things. Kehua, Ngangara and associated entities. I've asked some of those I've spoken with who are said to be able to see those entities to describe them, to even sketch them for me.
What descriptions I've received and sketches I've seen...well...they bear striking similarities to the more modern depictions of various possible Alien entities found in various books etc. Your stereotypical Greys and Reps.

From our cultural perspective these entities are seen as Ancient. As spiritual. Something that has existed through the ages. Also as part of our cultural perspective we have Kaitiaki (again, Google is your friend) which are seen as the *Good/Light/Insert your preferred term here* entities, Gaurdians, Protectors and such.

WHY do these things seem more prevalent within specific lineages? Well again this is from a cultural perspective deeply rooted within a spiritual base:
My own opinion, and one based within cultural understandings, is that there is Good and there is Evil/Bad, Light and Dark, whatever again you choose to refer to that 'balance' that flows throughout all things. I also believe - as does our culture - that the balance between those two polars waxes and wanes, almost a battle of sorts that has happened from the first tick of the clock.

How we deal with those *visitations* is centred upon restoration of balance - and/or bolstering the 'weighting' of one side (principally the Good side of course). We do this via what we term karakia (which VERY loosely translates I guess to 'prayer'), various encantations, objects placed in specific areas, rituals etc. These interventions of sorts are principally spiritual in nature, spiritually focussed.
It may also include what may be seen by other cultural understandings as 'karmic restoration'...or atonement for any wrongdoings that not only you yourself may have done, but also other people within your lineage may have done.

Thats the way these things have traditionally been handled within Maoridom.

So again WHY certain lineages?
Well - a bit like one of my initial replies about the truck mirror, about 'being on their radar if they are on yours' (whomever 'they' are of course). IF perhaps you and/or your lineage seems to have a propensity to 'sense/detect/whatever' possible spiritual entities...and IF these things are spiritual in nature...then maybe thats the case - you experience them because you *pick them up* on your *radar*.

Lets just keep rolling a bit with the supposition of Good Vs Evil, Light Vs Dark etc...

...IF that is the case...then maybe there is a possibility that its also about destabalising that Balance.
Its been my own experience that its those who see, hear, heal that function as restorers of Balance to people/places. They are also the ones who have experienced *visitations* (again our Cultural understandings of those). Their preception is that those negative visitations are about knocking them off centre, about manipulating their actions, about destabalising them and so impacting upon their *ability* to restore balance.

IF there is some form of conflict happening between the polars of Good and Bad, Light and Dark, whatever...then perhaps its about messing with the 'soldiers', the 'workers' or possible future workers whom may become a 'thorn in the side'...

...another possibility I'll throw out there, again its just a thought, no proof, just tossing around ideas: IF there was a conflict...when I'd personally see it as prudent to a)reduce the effectiveness of those who either fight against you, or may fight against you...b)bolster your own backers/troops...or...c)actually TURN those who may be against you over to your own side...


Anyhoo...I'll no doubt give some more input later. Apologies, gotta head out to watch a dance performance by one of the nephews.

Thanks again everyone for your input...its certainly appreciated.


Peace.

Originally posted by atlasastro
reply to post by X-tal_Phusion

 

I did not realise that the Khoury case was based only the proteins, the pieces i read made the sample seem more significant. I used that case to show two things, one, how little real evidence of this kind there is, and how little is actually done with it when there is evidence presented. I mean why was this evidence not used to find some kind of link, besides simply trying to see if it was alien?Anyway.[edit on 15-11-2008 by atlasastro]

The claim was that DNA sequences demonstrated a connection and my argument was that you couldn't extract DNA from a proteinaceous substance (unless pulled out at the root; in which case, minute DNA could come from the follicle). Since it would have been impossible to do a DNA comparison on a few hairs, the claim was clearly false. The analysis they claimed to have performed could not have been done. I just wanted to clarify that point.

I suppose it might be possible to sequence the amino acids and based on that sequence, try to stitch together the original DNA sequence (from which the amino acid sequence was translated). I don't know if you're familiar with codons but there is a reason why this could get very messy. The bases in DNA (corresponding to letters A, T, C, & G) form 3-letter groups called "codons". Each of these must first be transcribed into RNA complements (mRNA or messenger RNA; U, A, G, & C). This mRNA sequence is then translated into amino acids through another type of RNA called tRNA (transfer RNA) and ribosomes (made up of ribosomal RNA/rRNA and protein).

Each 3-letter sequence, or 1 codon corresponds to an amino acid and it is these which constitute the final protein (in this case, hair). The problem is that some amino acids may be encoded for by more than 1 codon. That means that you can come across several different 3-letter DNA sequences for the same amino acid. Different organisms lean towards making a given amino acid from one 3-letter sequence than others and this is called "codon bias".

Now, considering that we're dealing with a potentially alien entity, we would have no clue what those codon biases might me. Furthermore, since we haven't had the opportunity to study their biochemistry, we cannot guarantee that a given amino acid sequence corresponds to any known DNA sequence at all! That would depend on all the proteins, RNAs, and other factors responsible for transcribing and translating genetic instructions into proteins. For all we know, the codons which denote "start" and "stop" (along a given sequence) may be entirely different than we're used to. If we are reading along a sequence and we start or stop in the wrong place (i.e., starting on #22 of a sequence 5,000 units long (instead of #1) changes the 3-letter pattern we would read). It's just too messy!

Originally posted by atlasastro i guess taking up thi kind of investigation is a doubled edge sword, on one hand you may discover something significant to support your beliefs, on the other, your paradigm needs redefining. Perhaps the current paradigm of Abductee research supports income first, and truth second. While abductees are left in the dark, with books to read.
[edit on 15-11-2008 by atlasastro]

I sincerely wish there was more out there for abductees who are searching for answers. I resent the fact that so many books are published on the subject while papers in legitimate scientific journals only present one side of this issue (there are no aliens abducting anyone). Clearly, there are a few academic researchers who were willing to stick out their necks... but only so far. None are willing to approach this topic as any good scientist would (not cherry-picking evidence; it's all important). This is a complex topic that requires a multidisciplinary approach and I think it's clear that abudctees are starting to get more than just a little fed up with it all!

I spent most of the day today thinking about this problem. I really want to know what's happening here. I know that a lot of good people out there are suffering because of what's happening to them. I believe there are too many self-proclaimed "experts" who are more interested in profits than answers. I also wondered whether I might be in a unique position to do something about it all. Maybe I'm being naive, or overly optimistic.... or maybe I'm just sick and tired of all the BS.

I might be willing to step off the cliff if enough people were there to catch me. I can't take a chance that embarking on the search for answers leaves me ostracized and destitute but at the same time, I don't know how much longer I would have to wait for someone else with all the right resources to come along and do it for us. I realize that I'm probably starting to wander off-topic but I'm feeling conflicted right now. There aren't enough researchers out there who are willing to put the health and well-being of abductees above their own financial success. If we want to see a link established between genetics and abduction we could be waiting a VERY long time... while we continue to listen to the rest of the world mocking us.

I think I need more time to think but please understand that I am taking this very seriously. Maybe the best thing we can all do right now, to start re-establishing some level of credibility to the study of abduction, is to stop buying all those trashy books out there! If no one's buying them, then they just might have to do some REAL work to get attention! How dare they profit from your pain!

reply to post by ofhumandescent


I was just thinking of starting a thread on this yesterday. Anyway from the little bit of research done by me i came across a commonality between taken people. We were able to trace back or family tree and found out that the further back your bloodline is, the more chance of being taken.

I have only done three and so far we all can trace back to blood lines of ancient europe.
Anyone who has been taken should try and research there family and see where there roots go.

I sudjest then that being taken has something to do with how old your bloodline is.

Great thread Mod, lets compile.

Kitos

Hi. I have some views on all I've read here.

Alien said:

What was also interesting was the manner in which they told me this story. My friends mother and grandmother in particular are quite *animated* and expressive people when they speak - and yet as they told me about having seen this object they were almost emotionless...blunted affect...almost like they were simply mentioning the weather. Once they had completed telling me about it they returned back to their usual animated selves. Very wierd indeed.

Aint that a shame, because in an emotion filled world, the heiarchy is programmed to hear and react to emotion filled content. Which means....when 'we' speak--their not.
Yet from the experiencers point of view, maybe we are taught to remain 'calm' when exporting information (Exporting, gawd that sounds sooo robot, srry.) :-)
That matter of fact = matter of fact.


EldersCouncil said:

If aliens or external entities were a part of their first 4 years of development then the initial screen memories would need to be implanted at this point in time. If parents or siblings were abducted then the child by default becomes part of the program. If friends or family members are visiting during abduction they may very well suddenly be included.

Frequency of abduction may be tied into the ability to recall events or whether a screen memory is able to hold without further reinforcement.

I find this take a very interesting one. Though applied with a twist to my situation. We flew to where we were visiting of our own accord then- it would not always be so for me later. However:
Implantation of/covering of information: age approx 4


H3akalee said:

Why do they protect us from death ?

I believe after a recent self introspect to past instances over the years--because they are watching or recieve a unidentified panic message of some sort. Maybe from a biology monitor, implant, ect.

lightchild said:

I think that the people who are abducted are related to the Neanderthals.

I don't not agree with this... Neanderthal lines are indeed very very special. I can 'hear' a neanterthal in the woods. I can "think' his/her presence. I can 'smell' when they are nearby. They must be telling me. All I want to do is leave. I can't say I've never seen one. I can say I've never had a conversation with one and I respect their domains if I feel I have crossed into one, in a very thankyou for not killing me, mind if I get out of here fast, nice to meet you, sort of way.

I personally tend more to have a sasquatch belief about them-Neanderthals- personally, even though I have been seeing their phsyical structure in regular indivduals forever-that is what my head says. That Sassquatch is a later branch of Neanderthal, as much as human Neanderthals are. But, it's a huge diversely huge universe, I wouldn't discount their guardianship extends to ufo topics. I myself never saw a great many hairy creature flying the skies. Nevermind the confusion of real life meets a persons attempt at fictionizing it in movies such as star wars.

It is amazing science up until the last decades actually pushed an evolution model while disclaiming the instance of the Neanderthal-the strongest-as extinct.

I believe they have terran duties sympathetic to mythical beasts-in a real way.
What you said to the effect of 'let me put this out there but dont quote me as having a fighting opinion of it'--here too.

EldersCouncil said:

You said you stopped moving basically put yourself in a suspended wait and see mode. Although there must have been apprehension you maintained a "there is nothing I can do about this mental state"

EldersCouncil, I know this was addressed to another forum member, but I've been in this instance many many times.
It is a very useful survival technique-to suspend animation as much as possible. It keeps the cop from 'thinking he saw a gun', so to speak. For the most part when your completely helpless to do anything and you are in an instance where a wrong breathe might result in an unknown and thereby "likely" negative action-it is just best, as a sign of respect (and trust/worthyness) to just.......nothing. I've never heard it from another point of view. This is fantastic, though, strange.


Plumranch said:

A. There are many, many alien species, groups, aliences and etc...

B. The reason is that one ET group is responsible for that family...

C. The soul group of the family and the ETs are probably related also...

A. Yes there are. Animals too, though, not so much diversity have I seen as here. Humans. Outposts. Purple things. I don't really remember.

B. This I find curious, in introspect. I've been thinking back to my first family's travels and then to the travels of my adoptee family during the cold war. I gravitate towards the alien/s of my first families travels/ambassadorship. Yet, they are of a wider aquaintenship of my later slave families participation, and even still other races. Still always, my heart calls to the first, and to those in the second who saw what a mess I was in--and did something noteworthy on my behalf.

C. Soul group relation to ET: this is interesting. Not only did I observe aliens born of human, but I wonder if I remember my own. I can't say-wouldn't say as a solid knowledge; but I think 'a little' about the what if's. I did learn at one point that both of my (who I understood as being) my birth parents families were involved in ambassadorship/alliance with aliens-abiet diffferent species; which garners the futher self-outer introspection of hybred/mulatto politics. For instance, so for who do I align to if for instance my parent groups were from two different ambassadorship programs? European stuff, really.

X-tal_Phusion said:

One of my earliest memories involves a black and white patterned room that seemed to cave in as I approached the corner (the room shrank around me as I tried to reach a tiny door that was placed there

My (-) E.T. thought it was great fun to trapse through the worlds portals, amoung other things. Believe it or not, I won't force it. In san franscisco at the pier festival warehouses, there was the neatest most rational looking Alice in Wonderland booth, complete with a staged smaller room.

[edit on 16-11-2008 by HugmyRek]

reply to post by lightchild


You may be right that this would need it's own thread.

But in answering why would it run in families you need to touch on intent and motivation.

The alternative to the above is that it simply started out as a random selection and depending on your perception you are either one of the lucky ones or among the unlucky to be a part of this ongoing phenomenon.

What strikes me as interesting is that in many cases where there is continued multiple contact it usually starts out with the fight impulse and then moves to a situational acceptance.

I would not classify it as Stockholm syndrome; I truly feel this is something different.

The twist I provided could be seen as an induced reaction, not one where the subjects arrived at this state by themselves. The reason I brought it up was because I have been seeing a pattern that points to abductees having an innate ability to suppress emotions in a highly tense situation. This is not that they are fearless but in situations in which panic would be the norm they go into something akin to autopilot. In other words they would be the ones who take action to help.

This is a very subtle trait, but if you look at occupation, the way they recount highly stressful situations or even the subject matter in some of the screen memories. Then look at how they handle certain situations. What you will see is that the first thing they do is to quickly suppress emotions and begin working the situation.

It is specifically the limbo state between the initial fear being suppressed and the moment of decision that I believe is being recorded and reused.

I need to be honest and say that I do believe that the human body acts like an antenna and the brain can receive and transmit signal information.

I also believe that the autopilot ability runs in families.

Is it genetic? I really do not know, it could be cultural also or a combination of both.

Maybe it has more to do with a person’s resonance or ability to receive and transmit a signal or maybe it is lack of noise in the signal.

Is there a carrier type wave or specific frequency that certain families can tune into? Again I do not know. However this could tie into the spiritual awareness aspect.

Now I will say that the most disturbing lucid dream I had was seeing a fleet of UFO's and literally being in this mental limbo state, emotionless and unable to decide what to do. Looking back on it felt induced. It was this lucid dream that gave me the idea for this little twist.

sorry for the doule post but i wante to add something while it was fresh on my mind to see what your thoughts on this would be:

A child from 1-4 years old is not tampered with and if experiencing abductions sees it as something wonderful

@ about 4 years old the first screen memories are induced and the child experience the first fear and fight impulse associated to his abductors.

If the child recovers quickly from the experiences he suddenly find himself or herself in a school type situation

@ about 10-12 years old something happens and full fear and fight kicks in and last thru til they are in their late teens or early 20's.

they are left alone for a period of time and then somewhere between 25-30 years old they get a final meeting until they hit their 40's.

how does this timeline look vs. your experiences or your knowledge of the abduction phenomenon.

reply to post by alien


"Runs in the family" it seems may skip certain family members. My understanding from some recalled memories was an alleged conection to my known father. According to this he knew and even introduced the males in what I had thought was a semi trailer that had a metal grate ramp that made noise as we walked into this "trailer" None of the other children have recalled this memory. My first recall of a surgery implants was the age of 3 and some apparent star wars type of blood test.


At any rate, I've also recalled witnessing other children having these same implant surgeries. And hearing the words mentioned: "Your children's children." as if they belong to this new fold of chosen hosts(?) These implants are apparently used as if some remote control device etc. and I've seen them in X-rays and I set off detectors at airports and federal buildings. There seems to also be some connection to jumpgates or time travel experiences. Typically, in certain areas.

I'm sure I could write a book that would most likely be used as an example by psychiatrists as typical delusions. My more recent diagnosis is bipolar and in remission.

I've been on disability for 5 years now and it was basically around the time of 9/11 these memories began to surface.

When I lived in Wisconsin, I recall having met Jim Marrs and Bud Hopkins when they were doing an investigation by my brother-in-law's story of I believe what he claimed was a large Praying Mantis.

I also recall myself being under some control by another force that manipulated their memories. Since they apparently haven't mentioned this or spoken to me since, I'll assume they won't say it happened.

It's really discouraging.

Apparently, family members are also extented to whomever also is inseminated, quite possibly even from clones. (Star Wars?)

Would it be possble for the posters here who have contact experience or know of someone to list traits or even gifts they may have such as precognative dreaming, blood type (something I think is very important), longevity in the family, government or military connections, anything that stands out as unique.

If we could find a few common denominators we may get close to answers. A brief bio of the contibutors on this thread may spark with another person.

reply to post by aleon1018

I believe what he claimed was a large Praying Mantis.

(!)
copy that...
sorry for the off topic (if) post, op.

reply to post by Witness2008


Traits and Gifts: Like see through walls or into peoples offices? (I don't, really). :-) I see through (and fall through) the cracks with almost a photographic memory; for instance, I would make a good legal aid for my ability to remember 'reading something that applies' to a case.
Blood Type: A-
Family Longevity: unknown
Government or Military connections:
prefamily: Polish Army, Allied Forces, CIA, NOAA
postfamily: exhaustive list (pointlessly exhaustive)

witness2008 I was thinking maybe you should link your rh- thread in your sig line.

Originally posted by Witness2008
Would it be possble for the posters here who have contact experience... to list traits or even gifts they may have such as precognitive dreaming, blood type, longevity, government or military connections, anything that stands out as unique.

Mine would be government or military connections as per my previous post. Though my Mom would say it is our psychic abilities (which I have not yet learned to use, if I have them at all) and our lack of fear of aliens.

Originally posted by QueenofWeird
I have no idea of aliens are here and I have no idea what it is that abductees have actually experienced.

Yet I do know this. Since I am more and more leaning into the notion that UFO's are man made (for what ever purpose) I am not anymore afraid of pictures of Greys. When I was a teenager I first saw a picture of a Grey, I think it was the one on the cover of Communion. It scared the hell out of me. For years I was fearfull that I would wake up at night finding them standing at my bed and staring at me. The movie Fire in the Sky which I saw on tv years ago also scared me very very much even though I think no aliens were in it (but those fluid filled sacks with people in it.....brrrr).

When I see a picture of a Grey now I see nothing more than just a drawing. Sometimes it reminds me of a wrinkled newborn. One of my cats had to go under anesthetia and when he was back home with me, his eyes were very strange and black (due ot the remnants of the anesthetic). It reminded me immediately of the eyes of Greys. It sort of scared me a bit, because it looked very unnatural but I understood that it would soon go away.

I had written this because of people stating how strongly they react to pictures of Greys.

So.....this night I woke up because one of my cats was making very very strange sounds. I have heard him make similar, less agitated sounds, when he is irratated/upset. Anyway, as I was half awake half asleep I remembered the dream I had been dreaming. It was about a Grey! He was actually more brownish. His face was not smooth, yet bumpy and his much smaller, yet slanted eyes were emerald green! He was small but I can't remember anything about his body, as if I was standing very close to him. He was totally non threatening and his whole attitude was: Here I am, yes I am real. Convinced? He was silent and next to him there was this taller Grey but he looked sketchy.

This morning when I woke up, I felt very sick and nauseated. Strange.

Mind you, I as far as I know have NEVER, repeat NEVER, dreamed about aliens in general and Greys in particular! He if real is welcome to come back to me in my dreams.


[edit on 16-11-2008 by QueenofWeird]

Alien, I am enjoying reading your posts here.

My opinion on the reasons for abductions to specific people/families is not so much the DNA group but the soul group you are from. DNA is here today and gone tomorrow. Your soul is eternal and as such remains the same since time began give or take a few soul lessons along the way.

The Greys test your soul throughout the years. They test if you are honest and whether you would pull the trigger and kill etc etc.

I do not believe they abduct people for DNA/genetic material for the sake of scientific study. I think they like to make hybrids/clones and use the dna for their own purposes.

Alien, I like your idea about certain people who heal or anchor people or places. That has a ring about it as again it is a soul group.



Alien, the experience with your friend is not good. Was there missing time involved? One night when I felt/heard aliens on the stairs coming to get me, I tried to wake my husband and shook him but he was cold to the touch and they had already taken him astrally. There was noone *home* in his body. I feel that aliens sent your friend to the toilet and abudcted your friend astrally and didn't return him for a while at which time he heated up. Did he feel cold and clammy? Was he acting weird up to the point he heated up? They can put a dopelganger into his body while he is elsewhere.

Your friend is possibly spiritually powerful and will need to get spiritual protection if this is the case.

Originally posted by Witness2008
Would it be possible for the posters here who have contact experience or know of someone to list traits or even gifts they may have such as precognitive dreaming, blood type (something I think is very important), longevity in the family, government or military connections, anything that stands out as unique.

1) Precognitive Dreams/Deja Vu Yes (mother & myself)
2) Blood Type Unknown (mother is A+)
3) Family Longevity Yes (mother's side)
4) Government/Military Connections Yes-both (both sides of the family; my father is a federal employee, brother served in the military, & uncle was a federal contractor for NASA and affiliated with other aerospace groups)
5) Anything else Yes
- everyone in the family has IQs in excess of 140 and most of us hit most of the sub-test ceilings)
- We are multi-racial (Ojibwe on father's side)
- Language acquisition/mathematical ability (very swift for all of us; I began talking at 3 months of age (self-taught foreign languages) and most of us have no need for calculators); spatial ability is off the charts in most cases.
- Spirituality: None of us attended church or participated in organized religion of any sort. The world was explained to us in scientific terms (growing up).
- Photographic memory (father/brother)
- Immense creativity (just about everyone)
- "Powers of Persuasion" (father, brother, & I; my first job involved working with long-term care patients in a hospital as an assistant rec. therapist. If people did not want to participate, I would find a way to make it "their idea" to change their minds and come anyway).

[edit on 16-11-2008 by X-tal_Phusion]