Jesus spoke: Barack O bama is the AntiChrist.

Ehud Barak, a former prime minister of Israel.
Barak Yitzhaki, Israeli football player
Aharon Barak, former President of the Supreme Court of Israel

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Barack, also transliterated as Baraq in Hebrew, is LIGHTNING. Even in Greek, Barak is LIGHTNING for the name of a person!

The Biblical Languages are Hebrew. Aramaic. And Koine Greek.

How does 'Barack' get translated into Koine and Aramaic?

Koine Greek also translates 'Barack' to 'lightning'?

Also, I am sure in a Hebrew translation there were other instances of 'Lightning' being used throughout the Bible, no?.. What was the context then?..

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Your point is...?

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Well, despite the hard structure to read, I found it fascinating, Illihee. I pulled out my Bible and checked all the passages, as that is all I can really do. Riveting.
Personally, what struck me harder than the e-mail ya got, was all the crappulant postings and off-topic de-rail attempts.
Not one post tried to do what it was that you asked (sadly, mine does not either). No attempts to debunk the information, just silly wastes of bandwidth and point-padding.
I starred and flagged the OP myself. I'd like (LOVE) to see some actual participation in this thread instead of the BS that seems to float to the surface.
Good luck. Good topic. I really think you have something here.

Cuhail

I am just curious why this needs to be a new thread and not just a contribution to one of the other Obama is the Antichrist threads?

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No kidding. The antichrist is a conspiracy unto itself.

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Anti christ:

1. An enemy of Christ.
2. Antichrist The epithet of the great antagonist who was expected by the early Church to set himself up against Christ in the last days before the Second Coming.
3. A false Christ.


1. There are millions of these people and many here on ATS. You can say anyone who wages wars and maintains them under flase pretenses is an enemy of Christ.

2,3 The antichrist will claim to be christian, act christian and have christian friends. (Pat roberts) He will also wage wars in his name.

Obama the antichrist? I dont think we should look for one guy for most of you are the antichrist and dont even know it and some of you do and love it.

Originally posted by Dances With Angels
So any time that somebody comes around and promotes peace, we have to call them the antichrist?

Sheesh no wonder we have not yet achieved a peaceful world!

I'm not saying that Obama is perfect or anything. I think that calling him the antichrist is quite far fetched. After all, didn't Bush's name like match up with 666 or something?

I can completely understand how this may seem far fetched and what not, but I do believe the point behind this accusation is that one must look towards intent as much as, if not more so, than the actual message. An individual can promote "Peace" all they want, but should we not at least scrutinize Ulterior Motives, and any truths which contradict Popular Propaganda? What if someone was walking around stating "Hey, my goal is to make this World a Simpler, more Peaceful existence", but the aspect you never hear behind such, is their plan to Exterminate the vast Majority of the Human Population in order to attain this? I am not saying that Obama will do this, but what I am saying is that we should question the means by which he plans to accomplish his goals. That is all.

I was just thiking that Obama was the antichrist..no kidding...

It's the Charisma..and everybody loves him..Peace to Israel..?? Oh that is so comming...He's placed several jewish peeps in his cabinet and his name is Baraka..It's a muslim/arab name...

He is the president for 12 21 2012 too so we can include him in those prophecies as well.....

There is just one thing...Jesus wasn't His name..no was it how it was pronounced..and it's not pronounced Hey=Suse either..

So..let's not get all scholarly and pretentious..and I do not believe that Hey=Suess was a European as depicted in every catholic church..? no.

I'm curious if JeeeeSus would be able to uderstand FTW, LMAO, brb, and wahtever other mumbo jumbo that is protrayed as communication like slang and alternative uses and descriptions for words that are so common..

Maybe it wasnt literal..lightning meaning quick would that have a different hebrew word..? hold on lemme check...

Im bored looking for it..But we all know That jesus fellow spoke in parables and practically never told a straight story..I mean the guy practiacally condescends the disciples...("Oh..you cant walk on water..Ugh when will you ever learn. ...)

Freemasons believe that Lucifer is actually the savior of man..liberating us from GODS enslavory. Remember Eden..? Try that one on for size..its a creepy fit..

Originally posted by asmeone2
First of all, it's bad form to demand stars and flags.

I respect the research that you have done but can you post some sources to these translations? If not then this looks like another pin-the-tail-on-the antichrist thread.

Personally if the Bible is true I thinkt here have been, and will be, many antichrists.

I never understand why Christians are so hot to stop him, anyway; reading their own bible should tell them that he is an important part of God's plan to bring abotu the new heaven or whatever, so arent' they standing agaisnt God to try to stop the Antichrist?

Asmeone2 you really did it this time!! You addressed the situation at hand, gave the OP tips all without being condensing. You have gained my respect for not being like the others to so quickly jump at someone but also not to totally believe what is presented in front you. Kudos Asmeone2, you lead by example and are a great assets to ATS.

Anyways on topic, from what I could make of your unorganized text was that you "are playing the name game". Similar to some people who prophesize the end of the world that always do math with numbers which always turns up being 12,12,2012. Now of course if you look up definitions for words hoping for a demonic interpretation, anyone can come to conclusions that Barack Obama = Lucifer = Anti Christ. You are searching for something when you already have decided in your head what you want your search to result in. You have done a good job in writing all this and have a great imagination. Yet for anyone to take this seriously you need to provide sources and events other then baseless claims of how one persons' name when being translated into a different language would account to the arrival of the Antichrist in the form of the new president elect.

-Ign0RanT

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Geez... I thought my post was pretty legit

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I started writing it when there was only one page of replies. Yours, my friend, WAS on-topic and assisted in bringing the thread forward and made a good clarification. The lonely ole star for your post is actually mine. I also starred the one questioning me.



Cuhail

(Please note: I didn't read past the first couple of sentences. PLEASE use standard writing conventions. Please.)

Considering his background, I would guess that it is merely coincidence that his name means something in those languages(it probably means something different in arabic, I'm sure). You'd be surprised at how often that a name means one thing in it's 'native' language, and another in a completely unrelated language(for example, Ben in Hebrew means son of. In Scots Gaelic, it means mountain)

Originally posted by spellbound
As I said on another thread, is anyone else concerned that Osama and Obama have only one different letter?

Absolutely not.

I can't stand this whole name "issue", it reminds me of something from 5th grade.

Seriously, it's just his name; any similarity is purely coincidental and means nothing. I think that it's just the fact that his name is unusual that makes people think there's some hidden connection there; I don't see anyone saying that everyone named Adolf must be evil, or that people named Harvey or Oswald must have been on the grassy knoll(ok, not the best examples, but you get my point I hope).

Extremely difficult post to read...I think I got to about what "should" have been the 6th paragraph and had to stop.

I am willing to bet that if you were to break virtually ANY name down into it's syllabic form you could cross reference (if you were extremely bored or perhaps a bit OCD) with several religious text and further cross reference with various language transliterations and translations to find an anti-christ in a name.
Sadly I can't prove this though as I am neither that bored or having a particularly OCD day.

I have absolutely no doubt that my birth name would translate into something most horrid and evil...my Mother was funny that way.

edit for typo and to add: not at all knocking the post per-say...it's both amazing and scary that someone could sit and do all that cross referencing...I'd eat my own face before I'd even attempt it.

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This does resemble those other claims so called “professionals” have made in so much as equating the name of a pope to the number 666.
They did this in a variety of ways sometimes changing the method to fit their anti Christ at the time.
It seemed a bit of a stretch to me. Not that a pope couldn’t be an anti Christ, but rather the whole numerology thing in general.

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Ah, good news then

I am finding some interesting information. But before I know for certain which bit of it is pertinent.

Are we absolutely certain Barack translates to 'Baraq' in Hebrew? Because there is also a 'Barak' in Hebrew it seems..

Barak
Baraq

Also, are we certain in this passage the usage of 'Lightning' is describing Satan himself directly?

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As it has been said, name games are pointless.
We should not be looking to Obama's NAME to figure out if he's the anti-christ; we should be looking to his ACTIONS.
If anyone here on ATS finds some proof that Obama has an ulterior motive than maybe I will stop admiring him.
But so far, the only attacks I can see on him are the OSama and his inexperience.
I have seen none of the anti-christ tendencies in anything he's said or done so far, so I think we should all just wait and see what he DOES, rather than make PREDICTIONS about what he MIGHT do based on a religious text that not everyone believes in.
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty and so far, no matter what anyone wants to say, Obama has not actually DONE anything to warrant the Anti-Christ label.
Only predictions and assumptions and speculations have been made and those are not evidence or proof of any ill-will.

Really who cares if hes ANTI-CHRIST. I am ANTI CHRIST. Does that make me a bad person?

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Yes, of course it makes you a bad person.

On topic, tho, Barak Obama translates to Blessing High Place, near as I can get. Doesn't sound like a great name for an anti-Christ to me. Sounds more like a name for a Pope, or a really good guy.