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Who is to blame and why it isn't Obama

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posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 01:24 PM
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An interesting double standard among many we are guilty of where the following quote inspired me to examine blame and why some may argue to impeach Obama when it was Obama's own testimony in words and in deeds that indicate, at least to me anyway, where the REAL blame should be directed and This time the perp may surprise you.


This time it is Americans themselves we should hold accountable


Originally posted by greeneyedleo
reply to post by lee anoma
 




There is a Black president around the corner.


Was that adjective really necessary? Why not just say "new" ?


It is in the context she is giving her response, that being anyone objecting to Obama based on his being black. So in that tradition, and in response to you, I guess we could say, "New Black President" .


I think the novelty of his being black is something some may have a time getting used to.


The claims of those saying this is, or has some racial issues to it, are NOT the issues of people who didn't vote for Obama but for many that DID. I think when you look at the Black Vote and for a great many of the Black voters, race WAS the reason they voted for him.


Now, I am not against voting for him BECAUSE he is Black no more than I am against those who didn't vote for him for the same reason. I simply don't care either way when what's more important is how the most mysterious, secretive, sneaky, un-tested, unqualified, inexperienced, extremely left, anti- white, socialist, baby killer, whose entire circle of friends and colleagues were all Radicals, Muslim Islamic terrorists, Chicago mobsters and anti-white racists which includes but is not limited to his own wife, how a man like that could have ever been elected in the first place, especially during the most important most critical time in our nations history.


I think it is a testament to the angst aggression the voters had for the Bush administrations policies and its many specious, spurious crimes the Democrats who we trusted to impeach him for, didn't.


Instead, what we got when we swept them into the house and senate in 2006 was a do nothing tail wagging the dog. What we got was a team of Democrats who were busily undermining the country creating laws that don't regulate the banks but did the opposite encouraging banks to make risky loans to high risk individuals putting that risk NOT on the banks or even the FDIC but all of US!


When that all came crashing down, Bush who DID try to stop it but failed at the hands of a house and senate with only a 9% approval rating, had to ask the same people, who created this mess, a bill to fix it.


This, make no mistake, was NOT something George Bush WANTED to do but something he had no choice to do. Yet the congress could have still said no to it but as we have seen, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO sends them an excuse, they will write a check for it and Bush will sign it and vice versa.


So desperate for change were the American voters, that who so ever WILL say Change, GETS the change to replace this President and Obama was the one who made that word his mantra for the entire campaign.



I didn't want change, Bush gave us plenty of that when he changed the Office of President to some quasi dictatorial adversarial tyrant offering no excuses for the many trespasses he is guilty of other than his own twisted corrupt brand of perverted patriotism.


This President Elect should NOT go down in history the same way Bush will.


This President Elect who by virtue of his skin color makes him a "transformational" figure, a first in history for his skin color, is the SAME one YOU object to anyone using that same excuse being his skin color, as a reason to question the poster you were responding to using the adjective "Black" when it isn't used in a celebratory way to describe him or his election.


No THIS President elect has something more unique going for him than just his skin color because this time, it will be NO ONE Else's fault but OURS, the American People who voted for him, when the (****) hits the fan. You all KNEW this guy had the most far left voting record on record. You all KNEW he fought for some of the most repugnant acts of cruelty one can imagine forced upon our most young and helpless Americans in an act of nothing less than infanticide.


You ALL KNEW when every other day their was reports of his reluctance to show his Birth Certificate that after the first one was discovered to be a photo shopped version of his sisters, on his own website that MAYBE just MAYBE this guy might not be that above board and honest much less honorable.


To date; all we REALLY know is their is a Record of Birth in existence at the Honolulu Hospital that a man named Barack Hussein Obama was Born. We already KNOW that much and have all seen the man.


What we STILL may never know is the LOCATION the birth certificate says that birth took place. We all know Obama lies so do not be surprised when he lies about this too in addition to our forever being suspicious as to why he didn't make it as public as John McCain did his in spite of those silly excuses about the Hospital protecting his Identity. The FACT is none of that will help YOU when Obama wants to look into YOUR records, YOUR past, YOUR thesis etc,.



You all KNEW that when he went back on his word on campaign finance and reneged on his agreement to John McCain who was now compelled by his own integrity to keep his word in return, you ALL KNEW THEN that this guy doesn't keep his word, not to you, or his own Colleagues in the senate.



You ALL knew this guy has a problem with issues of his allegiance and where his allegiance may be when it isn't demonstrable and while he may not wear a flag pin on his lapel putting his hands in his pockets and while I may not even OWN a flag pin. I will always place my hand on my heart during the pledge of allegiance and the LAST thing I will do (unlike obama) is OFFER an EXCUSE or reason why I will NOT do it or wear it.



- Congress is not an industry. It does not produce anything that can be sold. It must take money from the people in order to pay for anything.



- Governments are by nature wasteful. It's easy to overspend money when the funds come from somebody else’s hard work.



- Governments are run by imperfect humans and are therefore subject to mismanagement. For this reason, it is best to keep them small and easily managed, with very specified responsibilities.



- Governments are run by imperfect humans and are therefore subject to corruption. For this reason, it is best to keep them out of trouble by limiting their power. (Lobbyists and special interest groups could just go home were Congress kept within its constitutional limits.)



- Bigger government means more bureaucracy, more government fingers in private lives, and less liberty.



Socialism is corrupt by nature. As soon as Congress started taking money from taxpayers to give it to somebody else, the whole idea of private property was compromised. My property is not really mine if the government officials can stick me in jail for not giving some of it to them.


As George Mason University economics professor Walter E. Williams wrote recently:


"Whatever Congress wishes to give, it has to first take other people's money. Thus, at the root of the welfare state is the immorality of intimidation, threats and coercion backed up with the threat of violence by the agents of the U.S. Congress. In order for Congress to do what some Americans deem as good, it must first do evil.


It must do that which if done privately would mean a jail sentence; namely, take the property of one American to give to another."


That means it takes someone evil to do it, well who is the ONLY man in the house and senate cold hearted enough to allow a survivor of an abortion, someone BORN ALIVE, to suffer a horrible death alone in a broom closet, discarded like so much dirty laundry.


Obama IS that man and the one for the job.


You may argue, "if the federal government did not take care of poverty, of health care, of the elderly, then who would do it! Who would take care of all these things that need serious attention?"


We would, of course. We the people.



You All knew that this guy was talking about redistributing the wealth so do NOT be surprised and bitch when we see them eyeing our investments such as IRA's and our 401k's because THAT is what they (socialists) do. They Vilify the rich and in Obama's case the rich white man is a villain. How else do you explain TWENTY YEARS of Jeremiah Wrights indoctrination of hate.



So do NOT be surprised when he treats US like it.
You all KNEW when he was talking about you religious white folks toting your guns saying he knows something you all didn't meant he knows when he is President he was going to take all that away, so DO NOT be SURPRISED when they come knocking at your door asking for your side arm. In the mean time, I am more inclined to answer the door wearing one than at any time in my life.


While you are complaining to those already wanting to draw up papers to impeach this President, Understand THIS:


Understand that YOU ALL KNEW that this President is currently talking about what he is going to do TO us before he gets in office and they are things we all KNEW he was going to do to us so WHY NOT talk about what we want to do to him before he gets into office?


That before this man became President as late as Nov 4th he was already looking at ways to confiscate our bank investments.
You all KNEW this man was unique beyond color but the ONLY one in both the house and senate cold hearted enough to kill a baby and hate the rich and damn America all to hell.


How do we know this?


By his over twenty years of patronage to someone he called mentor who screamed it at the top of his lungs saying G*D Damn America and his sole support to fight the born alive act.

So let it be YOU who knows that unlike Bush,, who we all can blame, that THIS TIME,, THIS TIME it will be the American Voters who are to blame for what ever this President elect does to further destroy all we hold dear.

Let it be known that you Socialists who believe the pursuit of Happiness isn't a pursuit at all but a Government entitlement and one I or anyone else is required by law to subsidize, know now that the Constitution doesn't SAY that!

That our America, is not the one YOU think is holding you back, keeping you or or anyone else poor but is the America YOU think, we are NOT.

Obviously and as evidenced by Barack Obama's own election to the Highest Office in the land, we are NOT the Kind of Country that in spite of who you are or what color you are that you are somehow being held back by greedy capitalists. That Baracks own meteoric rise to fame and glory PROVES that we are NOT the kind of country that would NOT elect a Black, anti gun anti white, anti capitalist, infanticidal radical leftist as President of the United States.

That ONLY in America could such a thing happen and ONLY YOU,,

The voters of Barack Hussein Obama

are to Blame






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[edit on 9-11-2008 by MAINTAL]



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by MAINTAL
It is in the context she is giving her response, that being anyone objecting to Obama based on his being black.


Its pritty clear that there are some members here who feel insercure about Obama for racial reasons, you denying this is no surprise to me... ofcourse your going to deny it. The very fact that some folks are still going on about his middle name and his BC indicates that there is this belief the man is way too "different" to be president. It has been installed in all by the media, from years of social belief, by our very own parents, and one can only deny it so much.

Does that make all non-Obama supporters racist, no, but folks have a right to call out those who make it apparent.


I think the novelty of his being black is something some may have a time getting used to.


Judging by the wave of threads posted from rightwingers here this is pritty evident.


The claims of those saying this is, or has some racial issues to it, are NOT the issues of people who didn't vote for Obama


Yes, the great denial that theres absolutley nothing racial or partisan to anybody who is posting this crap all over this forum. Is this objectivity?


I think when you look at the Black Vote and for a great many of the Black voters, race WAS the reason they voted for him.


Yes and well that may be true, the increase of blacks who voted for a democrat this year was a mear 5-7% points, which aint a whole lot different from the past. The first black president couple with this 8year crapheap from another republican president and finally topped by the aftermath of katrina. Really, who could blame them?

Any democratic nominee would have recieved this much attention and support, Obama has just given rightwingers an excuse to label it as a race messiah thingy. I mean it really doesnt make much sense.

The question should be as to why blacks vote overwhelmingly democrat?


what's more important is how the most mysterious, secretive, un-tested, unqualified, inexperienced, extremely left, anti- white, socialist, baby killer,


This is all partisan crap from the neoconservative base, its got nothing to do with the rest of the population and their views.

-The only thing secretive about the man is how righties make him out to be,

-untested? inexperienced? like Palin? what qualifies those the right to say whos been tested? Im guessing Palin is different? How about Bush? how was he tested for the job prior to 2000?

-extremely left? The same label put on kerry in 2004 and clinton in 92', please... and Palin aint extremely right in that measure??
as I said, just more partisan cr*p.

-Anti-white? newsflash, the mans half white, and never once have I heard him say he "hates white people".

-Baby killer? Im sorry but what you believe does necessarily reflect others. Ultimately this is the choice of a woman and should be available to here, especially in the case of rape and incest. You keep yourself and your religious BS out of somebody elses decision, and while your at it dont preach thats freedom cr*p, its hypocrisy at its worst.


When that all came crashing down, Bush who DID try to stop it but failed at the hands of a house and senate with only a 9% approval rating, had to ask the same people, who created this mess, a bill to fix it.


This financial crises came about way before the congress came into power, when the house was majority republican and they and had their hands in every side of washington. This is the worse president elect in the history of this nation, and you wish to put all the blame on congress elected 2years ago? with republicans who chose not to cooperate all that time?? How about this $200million a day lie of a war? I see this been sweeped under the floor by righties here, and you wish to now put all the blame on the congress elected 2years ago?

As I said, more rightwing partisan cr*p here, nothing new.


So desperate for change were the American voters, that who so ever WILL say Change, GETS the change to replace this President and Obama was the one who made that word his mantra for the entire campaign


damn straight his change, what should we have elected another republican to the whitehouse? please.. youll just have to cope my friend.



This President Elect should NOT go down in history the same way Bush will.


damn straight he wont, he will be a great president, whether rightwingers continously deny it with their partisan rhetoric or not.


What we STILL may never know is the LOCATION the birth certificate says that birth took place. We all know Obama lies so do not be surprised when he lies about this too in addition to our forever being suspicious as to why he didn't make it as public as John McCain did his in spite of those silly excuses about the Hospital protecting his Identity. The FACT is none of that will help YOU when Obama wants to look into YOUR records, YOUR past, YOUR thesis etc,.


The mans been campaigning for two years, his had both the McCain and Clinton campaigns dig up as much dirt on the man possible to get ahead, and they came up with nothing. His more than likely had the Bush administration with the CIA FBI agency looking into this guy for the two years his been running. His birth on US soil has been confirmed numerous times including the official news outles and all the fact checker websites, along with the state department. Obama has on numerous occasions presented new proof of his BC and yet the folks on the right refuse to listen or beleive. Its just partisan cr*p from the right and yall have to get over it sooner or later buddy.


Bigger government means more bureaucracy, more government fingers in private lives, and less liberty.


yet you folks elected an idiot in to make the government the largest its ever been, and paraded the man around in 2000 and 2004 to reelection until reality hit. Hypocrisy.

Look its evident that your an angry frustrated individual with very passionate conservative held belief and confidence in the republican party, as with most on this forum who will readily agree with you.

Obama is my president and his yours indefinatly for the next 4years. How you choose to cope with it is up to you, but this constant partisan bickering and misplaced anger, along with these rumors you so readily want to believe, it aint ganna help the way your deal with it.



[edit on 11-11-2008 by southern_Guardian]



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