What Was, Christianity Really About?

Part One of two Parts:

There is a Very, Very, Serious Conspiracy, involving the Religious Groups
of the Earth.

The Roman Church, could possibly be the Most Evil of all religions.

We are told the Bible is true by these churches of Primates.

But I put it to every one of You, that the bible has in fact been turned
into a lie, by the heads of all the churches, of so called Humankind,
or should I say more correctly Primates!

There is a Quote, from the Books of E’Noch, the 7th from Adam or A’Dam
in the bible.

The Quote has been changed to put across a completely different
meaning, than in the original Books of E’Noch.

Why?

What are the churches trying to hide?

Why do the churches of Primates, Lie and cheat, against their own kind,
and don’t allow the Truth to be told?

The Scholars that have translated the bible, should be held accountable,
for perhaps the Greatest Conspiracy, of all Time.

According to the bible, Jesus said,

“Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees and Hypocrites.”

Why?

These people today will not accept the Books of E’Noch, but will accept
a verse, which is in the bible in The General Epistle of Jude.

So how hypocritical is this?

Here is the passage I am referring to.

I have put both text, a Quote from the Books of E’Noch I-XXXVI verse 09.
and The biblical book known as, The General Epistle of Jude.

As Follows:-

The Books of E’Noch I-XXXVI verse 09.

Jude: And Enoch also,
the Seventh from Adam,
prophesied of these, saying,

Jude: Behold, the Lord cometh

Books of E’Noch: And behold! He cometh

Jude: with ten thousands of His saints,

Books of E’Noch: with ten thousands of His Holy Ones

Jude: 15. To execute judgment upon all,

Books of E’Noch: to execute judgement upon all,

Jude: and to convince all that are ungodly

Books of E’Noch: And to destroy all the ungodly:

Jude: among them of all their ungodly deeds.

Books of E’Noch: And to convict all flesh of all the works
of their ungodliness

Jude: which they have ungodly committed,

Books of E’Noch: which they have ungodly committed,

Jude: and of all their hard speeches

Books of E’Noch: And of all the hard things

Jude: which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

Books of E’Noch: which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.

In the Original Greek writings, there was absolutely No reference at all,
to a Roman Church, Roman Catholic Church, or a Anglican Church,
or any other Denomination, nor did it make any reference to the Validity
of what is known as the Roman bible or King James version of the bible
or any other bible.

Why?

I find it quite Repulsive, that primates can lie to each other and repugnant
that such academics and religious leaders, orders, or sects can behave
in such a way.



To understand any of the bible at all, you have to first know what
the Universe is and How it is Created!

If the Future has Not been pre created, how could you possibly experience
anything at all, as if there was No future, all would go Black, as there would
be Nothing at all to experience.

Do Primates really believe they create anything?

If they could, then why do they get ill or get injured and Die.

Do you primates really enjoy pain, suffering and Death?

I don’t think so.

Get Real World of Primates, and Accept the Truth.

The Truth is, that Primates are completely Lost, but they can’t accept this.

The Scholars and Teaches, don’t even understand the first few verses
of their bible and therefore it is impossible for them, to understand anything
in the bible at all.

If you look at the First verses of chapter 01 of the Genesis, of any bible
you will see what I mean!

Check out Part Two:




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Part Two:

The First Book of Moses, Called Genesis.

01.In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


[ Well this is easy to understand... The bible says that God created
the heaven and the earth., but what is God?

The word God is the least defined of all words and any interpretation
can be attached to this word God, especially if the Genesis and the first
chapter of The Gospel According to St. John is not understood... ]


02. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness
was upon the face of the deep, And the spirit of God moved
upon the face of the waters.


[ Now hang on a second this is where things might get very hazy to many?

The Face of the deep can Not be the seas, as at this stage of things,
there are no seas because it is written above in the verse 02.
that “the earth was without form, and void”

Note there was Darkness also.

Now what is the Spirit of God?

First you have to Identify the Word God. Then you have to know
what is meant by Spirit.

Notice first the face of the deep is used then the face of the Waters is used.

Why?

Is there a problem here or is the face of the deep and the face
of the waters one and the same thing?

It can Not be defined but only assumed! So there are serious questions
before we even get into understanding the writings.

You can’t jump part way into a book and expect to understand it no matter
how qualified you may be! ]

03. And God said , “Let there be light: and there was Light.

Well this is easy to understand or is it?

[ Where did the Light come from? Well it was in the Darkness! But Darkness
is Not Blackness! Darkness is Greyness and is made up of Black and White!.
And Light is thought to be understood today but I can assure you it is Not
understood correctly at all!

Some years ago, a thesis I wrote was sent to the University of California
by others so that what I quoted about Light, could be looked into. ]

More on thids in another thread later.

04. And God saw the Light, that it was good: and God
divided the Light from the Darkness.

[ Oops looks likes I was right about the Light. The light was divided or taken
from the darkness or divided into its components Black and White. ]

05. And God called the Light Day and the darkness he called Night
And the evening and the morning were the first day.

[ So the word “day” can Not refer to the term day, as we know it,
because at this stage the earth has, no form and is void.

The day refers to Light, as stated in verse 05.

But the Light of what, it does Not define. The period between evening
and morning on earth is normally the night so is this contradictory?

I don’t think so why write something absurd if you want people to take
notice?

So this period of Evening to morning can’t be of the earth because at this
stage the earth has no form and is void.

So there is somewhere else that has Light during the time between evening
and morning but where as it is Not defined?

If there is somewhere else besides the earth where? As even the Heaven
hasn’t been formed yet! ]

06. And God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst
of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

[ The waters mentioned here are Not see water or the seas as the earth
at this stage is still void and without form. So what are these waters?

It is written in verse 06 they are divided! ]

07. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters
which were under the firmament from the waters which were
above the firmament and it was so.

08. And God called the firmament Heaven And the evening
and the morning were the second day.

[ So this gap between the waters which are Not of Earth because this
is the forming of the Heaven and Not the Earth as the earth at this stage
has No form and is void.

As well in verse 01 that God created the heaven and the earth.

Notice the heaven is mentioned before the earth! ]

09. And God said, “Let the waters under the heaven,
be gathered together unto one place,
and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

[ Hear is the first part of the earth being formed and understand
that the dry land has been formed by waters but they are not waters
as in the seas oceans as these waters were made before the earth
had form and was void! ]

10. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together
of the waters called he the seas: and God saw that it was good.

[ Now this is where there is a problem with the translation...
In the context it is written it is a contradiction, but if a second part
of the waters (not the waters of the earth but the waters first mentioned
that is of the deep which were under the firmament) were gathered
together and called the seas. ]

It would appear that all things are made from the Waters of the deep
and Not the seas as mentioned from the beginning.

Now we need to define what these waters actually are to understand
Correctly what is implies in these writings.

I will describe these waters in my next thread and supply the proof
how you can visually see these waters yourself and study its workings....


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I am surprised that you are spending as much time and effort on this thread. As you have said, We're all just a bunch of primates. If you think we're all such silly lying foolish creatures, then why bother.
One last question-Why would I need to take the ramblings of a primate like yourself, into account even if he is a well educated one ?
Pass the bannanas please.

Hi badgerprints,

Well the reason is very simple....

Life that is your Consciousness is very precious and the Primate is only the story.

The reason for the time I spend on this is in hope that the Inner Mind will awake that is looking out of the eyes of the primate.

Surely your Consciousness is more important than your flesh?

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My inner mind currently has a headache. What exactly are you trying to say?

I am not really sure what you are saying, and that could be entirely my fault. I will agree that the Catholic Church is something that should fall into the same abyss whence it came, but uh, you sound like the kinda person that would just replace it with another one

I am going to revisit this thread and read it again as I think you might have some interesting stuff to say. My eyes need a break though..

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In my opinion religion is just a thing to hold people toghether. Even people who was completely different had something which was the same. Then there were people who tried to use it for personal benefits. And it stayed this way till now. Most of the major wars were started because people had different beliefs. But still it's good for humanity to have something to believe. We would kill one anpther long time ago if there was nothing like it. Too bad people're using it for the bad purpose. Maybe it's time to start a new one on global scale

P.S.: I'm an atheist

Welcome Lucid Lunacy,

Yes there is a story and definitely No to introducing another religion.

I have experienced Death, as in "brain dead" pronounced by doctors and experienced nothing to do with religion and frankly, I prefer the story of reality than the B.S. propagated by the religion of Primates this includes my own flesh.

People think I am against the Primate, but remember I am also looking out of the eyes of a Primate too, and I am certainly Not complaining, in fact I rather enjoy the adventure of this Primate in a Universe....LOL...

But as I say, our Consciousness, is far more precious than the flesh, but this does Not make me want to end everything, but rather allows me to have a different understanding, of both myself and my relationship, with this adventure you call the world or Universe.

There is a reason for this Program, we call earth and the Universe it is apparently in.

There is a reason for suffering pain and death but it is not often understood by the primate but can be understood by The True Mind which ours is a droplet of.

But when the Droplet of the True Mind awakens and realises it is experiencing a Holographic program it starts to ask many questions within its self and this results in the downloading of information from the Outer of The True Mind, instead of just coming from the Primate.

Everything that you can think of, has both an "Inner" and "Outer", no matter what it is.

You observe from the Centre of your own existence, so there is an "Outer" to you and this is what you discover, when you are awakened to the reality of the difference between the Life in you, or the Consciousness in you, and the Primate or Flesh.

The Primate is an interface between the True Mind and The Holographic program, it is experiencing.

In experiencing death and I was pronounced dead for longer than 30 minutes, I discovered that Consciousness does Not end, it merely enters another experience, but nothing like what humankind thinks it to be.

Thought is only decoded form of a program and is part of what our droplet of the True Mind experiences.

Outside this experience, thought does Not exist in the way we know of, in this program.

For a very good reason there are those, that desire to prevent others from awakening, and discovering the Truth and their real Identity.

Religion does exactly that, it inhibits one from coming to know The Truth by deluding people to think that all is OK, if we believe or pretend to believe in some made up Fantasy of the Primates understanding.

The World is formed from the Opposites and this situation, is in all of this program you call the earth and universe for a reason.

The world is Not a test, there is a function for this program that is different than all other worlds!

It involves a hardware change, in what displays this interactive network of Interactive holographic programming, to you and the downloading of Software and Data that adds to the capabilities of the structure, that allows you to experience these programs through.

More on this later...

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Originally posted by baburak
In my opinion religion is just a thing to hold people toghether. Even people who was completely different had something which was the same. Then there were people who tried to use it for personal benefits. And it stayed this way till now. Most of the major wars were started because people had different beliefs. But still it's good for humanity to have something to believe. We would kill one anpther long time ago if there was nothing like it. Too bad people're using it for the bad purpose. Maybe it's time to start a new one on global scale

P.S.: I'm an atheist

Welcome baburak,

Yes I would agree with your thoughts to some degree, but I think it is time for all of us to discover The Truth Don't You?

Originally posted by DarthChrisious
My inner mind currently has a headache. What exactly are you trying to say?

Welcome DarthChrisious,

Stick around and find out as this thread pans out....

There is a Story here unlike anything you have ever heard I guess!

But then again????

reply to post by The Matrix Traveller


I think not yet ... there're too many fanatics out there and i think there's no person who knows the complete truth. You can speculate on this stuff and twist theories but nobody will believe you unless all of the people in world will see it simulteneously. All of the stuff that happening to folks in near death experiances could be just imagination. You can't prove or disprove this. And until you don't know the truth you can't say to the people to believe this.
It's just a dead end.
As far as i know the real thing can be every crazy theory i heard in my life until you prove it's not. And nobody can't disprove any religion that is out there.
What do you think thre reaction of a fanatic would be if you told him his beliefs are wrong? I hope you will never find out
People have to believe in something even if it's Santa Claus

And i don't like the way you wrote your post - "primates" .
No offense

Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
Welcome Lucid Lunacy,



There is a reason for this Program, we call earth and the Universe it is apparently in.

There is a reason for suffering pain and death but it is not often understood by the primate but can be understood by The True Mind which ours is a droplet of.

But when the Droplet of the True Mind awakens and realises it is experiencing a Holographic program it starts to ask many questions within its self and this results in the downloading of information from the Outer of The True Mind, instead of just coming from the Primate.


The Primate is an interface between the True Mind and The Holographic program, it is experiencing.

In experiencing death and I was pronounced dead for longer than 30 minutes, I discovered that Consciousness does Not end, it merely enters another experience, but nothing like what humankind thinks it to be.

Thought is only decoded form of a program and is part of what our droplet of the True Mind experiences.

Outside this experience, thought does Not exist in the way we know of, in this program.


It involves a hardware change, in what displays this interactive network of Interactive holographic programming, to you and the downloading of Software and Data that adds to the capabilities of the structure, that allows you to experience these programs through.

More on this later...

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So,
If I get this straight, we're all just primates in a simulation and unaware of it?
So should I pick the red banana or the blue banana ?

I think the only answer anyone needs as to the historical actions of the Vatican can be found within Dostoyevski's "The Brothers Kharamazov"

Basically, Jesus comes back to Earth, and the Vatican has him arrested and threatened with execution because he represents a threat to their authority.

Originally posted by baburak
And i don't like the way you wrote your post - "primates" .
No offense

No offence taken but would you rather I call Primates tigers, horses, seagulls or something else.

People get very upset when told the Truth and people frantically deny they are primates as the can't accept the truth they are one of the species of the Primate family.

Look it is time to stop pretending and take reality by the horns and embrace the truth and evolve.

If we don't take action and accept the truth, how can we expect to be able to make the correct choices, to continue in his program you call earth.

The population of people or Primates have very, very, serious issues to deal with in the near future so we need to wake up and start acting intelligently and I do Not exclude my self in this crisis.

We simply can't go on pretending any more behaving like an Ostridge with its head in the ground.

reply to post by badgerprints


Hi badgerprints,

Yea I guess it is a bit like this but which banana should we take as I like both..

It's all a bit of worry isn't it...

But Rome has a lot to answer for....

But the real story behind what is going on, is much more interesting than the story presented by Rome...

I opt for the real story myself.

So which banana do we chose?

Or perhaps we try the peanuts they can be tasty too.

But seriously the Greatest wealth a man or woman can have, is to know the real self.

Many kings have killed in trying to get this knowledge but the answers are Not found in the way we are heading at present, so a new approach is required if we are wanting to swing in these trees in the future.

All flesh including this monkey without a tail or Primate, has certainly proved that we don't have all the answers or understanding.

But let us stop trusting in fantasies and embrace the Truth about ourselves and find out more.

You never know, we just may progress closer to understanding of what we all are a part of, and put away the B.S.





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Originally posted by DrBones666
I think the only answer anyone needs as to the historical actions of the Vatican can be found within Dostoyevski's "The Brothers Kharamazov"

Basically, Jesus comes back to Earth, and the Vatican has him arrested and threatened with execution because he represents a threat to their authority.

Hi DrBones666,

Hmmmm I will check this out.....

But did you know there was also much history in the other regions of Asia such as India and China, about the Nazarein about 1,900 years ago, but you are not informed of this in the West.

What degree of his travels in China are I am Not sure of yet, but a lot more research is required if I can find the time.

Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller

Originally posted by DrBones666
I think the only answer anyone needs as to the historical actions of the Vatican can be found within Dostoyevski's "The Brothers Kharamazov"

Basically, Jesus comes back to Earth, and the Vatican has him arrested and threatened with execution because he represents a threat to their authority.

Hi DrBones666,

Hmmmm I will check this out.....

But did you know there was also much history in the other regions of Asia such as India and China, about the Nazarein about 1,900 years ago, but you are not informed of this in the West.

What degree of his travels in China are I am Not sure of yet, but a lot more research is required if I can find the time.

The Nazarene church was a far different paradigm from what the vatican became which is what this thread is about? You might even say that the early Roman Church did as much as possible to distort and destroy the original teachings and history of the early Jerusalem Church.

IMO the entire Pauline movement was a fallacy completely disregarding the true history and message of Christ. Don't know if I should really say that.. but hey, historically, I'm probably right...

Once again, IMO, I don't believe that Paul/Saul had any true link/authority to promote his personal corrupt version of the Christian religion, it's basically an accepted historical fact now that Jesus passed on the church to his brother James, and the last pope went as far as to say that Jesus never even really had a brother called James, and if he did, his involvement was negligible.

Historically however, if Jesus really existed, of course he would have passed the leadership on to the next male in the line of David, who was James, and Paul/Saul really had no basis to claim the lineage of His teachings. Taking that into account, the vatican's historical and spiritual authority is umm... Non Existant. I don't claim to be either an expert or even a Christian, but as an armchair historian this is basically what I have concluded.

In reply to you, I would really like to read what you have to say about the travels of The Christ in India and China.

So much time wasted, that could have been put into much better use by study of the tangible. Honestly it saddens me to see people still living thier lives by and dedicating thier lives to the study of an ancient storybook/control mechanism.

Christianity is a farce, we all know this, some cling to it because they can't grasp the idea of a truly secular world, they can't deal with the idea that they are... insignificant in the grand design of the universe/multiverse. It's time that the human race as a whole woke up and stopped holding back progress because the feeble minded have trouble accepting that very few individuals matter, or make a true difference.

Organised religion in general has been used as nothing but a way to control the unenlightened, the uneducated.. and a way to create rifts between people, stop the uniting of the human race as a whole, and keep the general populace from waking up and realising that wars faught over dirt and oil are pointless, and in the astronomical scale where you live on this planet, and what you have to eat or which invisble man in the sky you pray to DOESN'T MATTER.

what was christianity about? the exact same thing as every other major religion has been since the dawn of civilization... control, and dominance.

Originally posted by DrBones666

In reply to you, I would really like to read what you have to say about the travels of The Christ in India and China.

I am heading back to China sometime within the next 12 months I will see what else I can find out for you.

With regard to the writings they can be read in two entirely different way.

One being a parable which is a description and history of the Metamorphosis of what was one called the soul.

But the Word Soul is totally misrepresented today.

The Soul is nothing at all like people today imagine it to be or do.

The Name Man was given to the Soul and Not the Flesh but Aam or more correctly A'Dam was the Name given to the Flesh or Primate.

But I will try and expose the truth on this matter soon.

The Temple is actually a description of the Soul called man.

The old Soul was outside the main structure and its format was Hexagonal.

This Structure was also called Babylon.

This was then changed by the birth of what is called The Man Child and this then entered the Main Structure and was in the form of an Octagonal Format.

The Soul is a processing Lattice work of Light that Loads and plays the Holograph that is your experience called A'Dam (your Flesh which is of the Primate family and is a beast of the field) and the world you call Earth and the Universe.

For those that want to see the Lattice work "map" in the form of an accurate Geometric Drawing you can go through U2U and I would be happy to forward it and many other formats to you via email as I have had problems lup-loading to abovetopsecret. which is a problem at my end and not abovetopsecret.

The latter Octagonal map of the Soul can be found in the book of Ezekiel (The Entire Book ) but the main Lattice work structure is given in detail from Chapter 40 onwards. It will take a little time to understand it but it is still there but only just.

If you look at the Outer Octagonal Structure (Made of squares) I give you in the form of a drawing you will be able to check this out for your self.

But the teachings of the Carpenter, were nothing like what is taught today.

His teachings were about knowing your self and the Metamorphosis of the Soul and the Birth of what is called the Man Child or Son of Man and Not about the Flesh of A'Dam or people today!