[National Geographic] Unknown "Structures" Tugging at Universe, Study Says

[National Geographic] Unknown "Structures" Tugging at Universe, Study Says

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Something may be out there. Way out there.

On the outskirts of creation, unknown, unseen "structures" are tugging on our universe like cosmic magnets, a controversial new study says.

Everything in the known universe is said to be racing toward the massive clumps of matter at more than 2 million miles (3.2 million kilometers) an hour—a movement the researchers have dubbed dark flow.

The presence of the extra-universal matter suggests that our universe is part of something bigger—a multiverse—and that whatever is out there is very different from the universe we know, according to study leader Alexander Kashlinsky, an astrophysicist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland.

The theory could rewrite the laws of physics. Current models say the known, or visible, universe—which extends as far as light could have traveled since the big bang—is essentially the same as the rest of space-time (the three dimensions of space plus time).

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What is this huge structure? Could the entire Universe be confined inside a structure of some sort?

I would like to hear every ones thoughts on this

To the mods: I apologise if I have posted this article in the wrong place, I am new to ATS.

I consider the article breaking news as it was published a couple days ago.

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Unknown "Structures" Tugging at Universe, Study Says

I have a belief , not scientifically proven I might add, that the Universe we live in contracts and expands and has done so many times in the past and will do again the future ad infinitum. THe big bang was followed a big crunch , it expands outwards then contracts again. Like a stone thrown in a pond , the rings expand outward then hit the side and move back to the centre.
But the universe doesn't have any edges ( I hear you say), just a gravitational edge ( like an satellite orbiting our planet, too close it crashes back to Earth, too far out and it keeps going, but find the 'happy medium' and it stays there. These 'structures' may exist in the 'happy medium' , Some are lost in the big cruch and some are pushed out in the big bang.
The 'structures' the scientists are are describing (I think) are the remnants of the previous universes that were too far out to be 'grabbed' by the last 'big crunch'.
Mass attracts mass according to the scientists , as our Universe expands outwards it 'catches up' to the previous Universal matter.
Just an hypothesis and no sicentific data to back it up , sorry for those that want it.

Originally posted by warrenb
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Unknown "Structures" Tugging at Universe, Study Says

Sorry mate, feel free to alert mods and have the thread removed

I knew it, we're a cosmic zoo, some sort of elaborate universal joke. Just kidding.

A multiverse sounds very plausible to me, from what I've heard gravitation could be the only trans-dimensional force in our universe, and it would also explain why it is comparatively weak compared to other energy sources. Either that, or I need to go read-up on dark flow.

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It will not be removed, since a topic may exist concurrently in a news thread as well as in another forum other than news.

Please continue to discuss this interesting topic on either thread.

Originally posted by warrenb
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Unknown "Structures" Tugging at Universe, Study Says

It is ATS policy to allow two threads on the same topic if one is in the Breaking Alternative News section and the other is out in a regular forum.

This thread is acceptable...and a good find at that...

I can't even concieve of an endless universe, so the idea of a multiverse is mind boggling!

Edit to Add: What masqua said...

[edit on 7-11-2008 by MemoryShock]

Now imagine that our Universe is nothing but some blood cell in a persons vein

Bit far out but it certainly boggles the mind.

[edit on 7-11-2008 by Fett Pinkus]

Originally posted by IceColdPro
What is this huge structure? Could the entire Universe be confined inside a structure of some sort?

lol. It's the edge of our marble. the question reminded me of MIB

Originally posted by Fett Pinkus
Now imagine that our Universe is nothing but some blood cell in a persons vein

Bit far out but it certainly boggles the mind.

[edit on 7-11-2008 by Fett Pinkus]

I was thinking the same thing.....for all we know...we are nothing more than parts of a molecule or an atom in a living entity(GOD) maybe....or even smaller than that....hard to say as all of these thing a purely theory.



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[edit on 11/7/2008 by CaptGizmo]

I believe the universe is infinitely small, we are merely part of something bigger like the contents of an atom are part of the whole atom. Maybe if we could look at the contents of an atom at a larger scale we may see another universe. Our universe could be an atom in a much larger universe.

[edit on 7/11/2008 by spitefulgod]

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Ohh I see we all have the same Idea... good then in actuality whatever we are part of is our GOD.

What in incredible world we live in - and the *stuff* on the outside? (The Universe)... It’s going to just blow out mind!
I’m constantly thankful each time something like this is *found out* and reported to *us*.
You’d think it would make me feel small, but no, it does make me feel a part of something huge and wonderful.
Ewww, I’m getting sappy! :O

Anyway - funny enough I’m listening to Nassim Haramein (I was reading your post and listening to his video simultaneously).
Anyway, Nassim Haramein was just saying:

(Tic 02:04:06 this video)

“Einstein's Field Equation(s) does not accommodate Torque” as they “eliminated torque by attaching the observer to the rotating object.”
(On eliminating torque) “There’s a good chance you’re gonna end up with 98% of the mass of the Universe ends up missing, which is exactly what occurs in modern cosmology. And instead of revising their approach to energy and torque and so on, they invented a new kind of matter, they call it dark matter and they just plugged it into the equation to make it work.
Some kind of dark matter, that doesn’t radiate, that no one can detect. It's kind of convenient.
Your equations are missing 98% of the mass out there and instead of revising your equations you just plug in some dark matter.
This is not what I think of is good physics.”

I hope I got that all correct, I was taking *dictation* (so to speak) to pass it on to you.

Pretty interesting what he’s saying in the video - and what you’re finding.

I hope you have a listen...

If nothing else it's cool coincidence.

Thanks again for the post!


...smile...


[edit on 7-11-2008 by silo13]

Originally posted by spitefulgod
I believe the universe is infinately small, we are merely part of something bigger like the contents of an atom are part of the whole atom. Maybe if we could look at the contents of an atom at a larger scale we may see another universe. Are universe could be an atom in a much larger universe.

I've given that very same idea serious thought over the past few years, especially about out universe being an atom.

Mind boggling if you ponder it long enough.

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I would freak my friends out when I would say this stuff as a kid. Could be I had more insight then most at that age.

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I saw it first here

www.space.com...

That was in September.

Do you really think we can comprehend what is going on out there, from our little rock? The way we see Universe is like through a frog's eye

I like to think we're part of some grand, noble, intelligent design, as
opposed to some "instruction" in a giant video game, or "construct"
as those goofy 'Matrix' loons call it.

Could somone explain to me the implications of this in terms of it 'rewriting physics'? Layman like, please.

We will find out in the next few years that this place we call reality in not what it seems.This universe this reality that we live in just a small portion of all there is.How can anyone believe that we are the only ones.If we can observe galaxy clusters 700 billion miles away think about beings that are thousands or even millions of years ahead of us can do.We are living in an wonderful time and I am enjoying the ride.