Your cell phone is tapped.

these fokkers control drug traffaicing in US,
and listen to down to earth citizen say to each other??

tax money well spent...NOT....time to restructure CIA.

The 'rogue' agents within these 'agencies' are what Americans as well as the people of the world should really be concerned about. There are many people and 'organizations' of which have much to hide. They will continue to infiltrate the intelligence communities to gain an upper hand. This topic really makes me sick thinking about it. It's worse than most could imagine.

There are moles/spies in just about every secret organization out there. Dept. of Homeland Security has combined their intelligence agencies into one. This was done not for Americans in general but rather to 'control' the intelligence information collected or to provide an early warning to compromising the 'agenda' at hand. This puts too much power in the hands of a few at the top of the organization who many times were put in these positions by PTB that have their own interests in mind.

If you suspect someone is following you, tracking you, hire a computer forensic investigator or Private Investigator. You might be surprised in what you may find. Many times, rogue agents are not doing what they are supposed to be doing while 'on the job' and every agents activities should be audited without their knowledge at least twice a year to keep the system working 'for the people'.

Expose those that may have an agenda with yourself, then prosecute if necessary. I doubt anyone on this board has much to worry about. You guys seem kind of innocent/harmless to me.

On another note, if someone is being watched/monitored, just do the right thing, mind your own business and eventually you should be left alone. These secret agencies are far too busy to show any one individual too much attention. They are seriously understaffed at the moment though 'that is most likely by 'design'. There are over 1 million Americans on the 'watch' list. Just try to do the right thing and the crows will soar elsewhere.

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On another note, if someone is being watched/monitored, just do the right thing, mind your own business and eventually you should be left alone. These secret agencies are far too busy to show any one individual too much attention. They are seriously understaffed at the moment though 'that is most likely by 'design'. There are over 1 million Americans on the 'watch' list. Just try to do the right thing and the crows will soar elsewhere.

Balderdash! Phil Donahue once said on his talk show something similar to a Jewish family that was being targeted by the FBI for being "communists". Phil belittled the family for thinking that the FBI had that much money & time to follow them around to the extent that they said that they were. The FBI thugs just get the "ball" rolling. They go to local vigilante groups who are eager and willing to do their version of the Stanford Prison Psych Experiment.

The nature of the human beast is to enjoy any measure of "power" that they are allowed. The "agencies" direct the harassment. The local yokels enjoy the "game" & so the "ball" picks up speed. The "game" usually never ends as long as the "target" is alive.

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When I was working at a "Wireless Company" we were tasked to backup and retain all text/email messages, based on monthly averages there were approx. 15 million text messages a month which were backed up and stored on the servers. Basically everything you do is stored, nothing is private.... hope this helps.

Originally posted by KOGDOG

Originally posted by thegrayone
CUT...The only way to make sure you are not listened to is by taking the battery off.

Unless you really made someone's craplist.... then the "mic" will be built into your battery.

In that case you might as well record everything you say and do and just give it to them...
Second line...

I remember seeing two news reports. One was on how even turned off cell phones could be used as listening devices and the other was about one room in one particular phone company. The government took over the room and it was capable of monitoring any and every electronic transmission that went over the phone or internet. Which is pretty much everything. I cannot find them now but I have to believe someone here knows what I am talking about.

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You're thinking of the information revealed in the NJ Mafia prosecutions:
news.zdnet.com...

And various terrorism cases:
www.ft.com...

And also, Mark Klein's revelations about AT&T and the NSA:
www.wired.com...

That should get you started, and give you some google search phrases. Enjoy.

Watch 911 : The Road to Tyranny

The link above gives the viewer a good idea of what is really going with the NWO. Many false flag opertations, acts of espionage and treason are covered in the video.

The video is the 5th video from the bottom of the link (thevideovault) above. Pass this around worldwide. The people need to wake up to reality before it becomes your destiny.

Former FBI agent John O'Neill was 'transferred' to Head of Security at the World Trade Center and died 'by design' during the explosion. He knew too much and was eliminated.
John O'Neill was murdered

The International bankster cartel will stop at nothing to achieve a new world order. Their machiavelian code of ethics is run rampant the world over to achieve an end; the NWO. If successful, there will be a One World Govt. and a One World Currency controlled by the Trillionare so called 'elite'. You, your children and their offspring will live as serfs unto the masters.

They want to know what your going to do about it. Well, how about spreading the word? Exposure is what they fear the most.



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Good thing i dont have one.I also dont have a drivers license or passport either.No mortgage.No car.No cell phone.By gosh im really free!LMAO!

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Your alsome. Your story really creeped me out. Some days I wish I knew how to see auras and feel energies, maybe I do know how, but sometimes I do NOT since I fear the unknown still. Need to conquer that.

Over the past year i've had a weird phenomenon happening with my last and current cellphone... i've had alot of calls where I answer my phone or I dial out to someone and only they can hear me, I cannot hear them... kinda like a drop or re-routed call... and at times i'll be talkin on the phone and I can hear static, like im tapping into other peoples convos when me n my gf are clearly both alone a few houses away... kinda odd, maybe mines tapped... a few times I've yelled into the phone "STOP LISTENING TO ME" and other outbursts of rage and you'll hear what sounds to be like a click or two, but still I can't hear the other person on the line... arghh

Originally posted by calihan123
Be careful what you say on your cell phone.

My friend, whos best friend works for the government, said every single cell phone is tapped, and they will listen in your conversation when key words are said.


Lets hope that isnt true. If it is.. We definitely don't live in a free society.

Cool, Im going to try something out

Maybe a fake terrorist plot over the phone to a friend that speaks arabic.....I guess we will soon find out if its true or not

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Cool, Im going to try something out

Maybe a fake terrorist plot over the phone to a friend that speaks arabic.....I guess we will soon find out if its true or not

Oz Page three of this Thread my Friend!

My links ALL PHONE DATA FAX TXT EMAIL MESSAGES ARE ADMITTED BY THEM TO BE LISTENED TO! SOME LINKS HERE

This is real, and if you do as you say you will be listened too...

Sigh AboveTopSecret but no one seems to know the actual abilities and reality of what they have been up to for years.

Sigh not directed to you, you generally are one of the smartest posters here.....just an general comment.

Elf.

My uncle independently confirmed this to me.

He stated due to some 'heavier' people he knew through friends, one of whom was busted for dealing/making meth. That person paid the police off after his bust to find out methods used to catch him.

He was told in detail that most cellphone models have GPS built in. They can be triggered remotely unless you remove the battery. They can be listened to. ECHELON network sucks everything up in the country etc etc.

This is a long time ago, before this sort of information was widely disseminated on the internet, so is independent confirmation of what we know now.

Scary stuff.. my battery is out unless I need the thing on now. I'm using it less and less, screw you ECHELON and screw my government. A government who lied in saying: "ECHELON is not used on domestic traffic"... yeah right.

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If you do not want to be tracked, remove your battery. You should do this every few days anyway....

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Search the code word "Echelon." This was a term, I believe, coined under the Clinton Administration.

There is mass surveillance (suveillance more accurately describes what is going on more so than spying lol) going on under some pact made between Canada, the US, Australia, New Zealand, and England.

It actually is less dramatic than how you are viewing it, which is not to say that I am condoning it. I just don't see any reason why anyone would feel the need to tailor their personal conversations because of this.

It isn't that they are listening in to every conversation, but rather almost every form of communication, minus hand written and in face verbal communication, is monitored via a computer system that is set to look for key phrases, etc.

AT&T is one company that is 100% on board with this. I use AT&T and rest assured that it isn't as intrusive as some of the imaginative folks here are assuming. I have had many conversations with a friend about current events and how we feel and have even discussed things that have been discussed here and I am still around, and in fact, have never been pursued by "agents" concerning our discussions.

Although it certainly is concerning as far as where this could lead, I would encourage you all to research it (there is tons of info all over the web.. factual, government information .. even from different governments) before you throw out your cell phones and/or let your imagination get the better of you. LOL

Originally posted by Ian McLean
reply to post by Iblis Smiley

 

You're thinking of the information revealed in the NJ Mafia prosecutions:
news.zdnet.com...

And various terrorism cases:
www.ft.com...

And also, Mark Klein's revelations about AT&T and the NSA:
www.wired.com...

That should get you started, and give you some google search phrases. Enjoy.

Thanks but I remember seeing news reports that seemed a little more specific. There was one room and they showed the door and the man who designed the hardware helped explain what was inside and how it accessed each and every transmission in this country.

There was another one that was a little story on Fox (I know) and they quickly explained how any phone can be used as a listening device even when off.

But thanks, I am sure all that is in there but you know how it is, internet, attention spans, pretty moving pictures that last less than 30 seconds.

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The key words?
Well, they have a computer program that brings it to human attention when certain words are used differently than normal. It's perfect for following drugs, someone starts to use "records" when talking about ecstacy. Computer notices the term being used out of traditional context, brings it and the whole text message to the attention of a live human being. Trends in words are predicted before they really become a normal trend.
It's absurd.
I believe it's a company in Texas who houses all the super computers filtering our conversations, but I know it it happening in San Francisco AT&T. I think that was the story. There was a secret room in the building that only one person from AT&T was allowed into. He came out and said what was being done there (the monitoring of conversations & msgs.)
Thank you Big Government, for all the protection you are providing to use by reading or listening to my personal conversations between friends =) You can prevent me from committing acts of terrorism. especially when the terrorism is having a disagreement with the way you manage this country...

Originally posted by Iblis Smiley

Originally posted by Ian McLean
reply to post by Iblis Smiley

 

You're thinking of the information revealed in the NJ Mafia prosecutions:
news.zdnet.com...

And various terrorism cases:
www.ft.com...

And also, Mark Klein's revelations about AT&T and the NSA:
www.wired.com...

That should get you started, and give you some google search phrases. Enjoy.

Thanks but I remember seeing news reports that seemed a little more specific.

Really? More specific than this (from the third link I posted):

In San Francisco the "secret room" is Room 641A at 611 Folsom Street, the site of a large SBC phone building, three floors of which are occupied by AT&T. High-speed fiber-optic circuits come in on the 8th floor and run down to the 7th floor where they connect to routers for AT&T's WorldNet service, part of the latter's vital "Common Backbone." In order to snoop on these circuits, a special cabinet was installed and cabled to the "secret room" on the 6th floor to monitor the information going through the circuits. (The location code of the cabinet is 070177.04, which denotes the 7th floor, aisle 177 and bay 04.) The "secret room" itself is roughly 24-by-48 feet, containing perhaps a dozen cabinets including such equipment as Sun servers and two Juniper routers, plus an industrial-size air conditioner.

It goes on to further describe the actual equipment involved.

Perhaps you mean "more specific", as far as dictating how a 'reasonable person', trusting of the media's diligence, should react and interpret this information. Well, I'm sure lots of sources are available for that, if that's what you're looking for. Just skim on the surface of the news, and you'll find what you're looking for eventually. Many people need things spoon-fed to them.

But thanks, I am sure all that is in there but you know how it is, internet, attention spans, pretty moving pictures that last less than 30 seconds.

Sorry for my slightly-sarcastic response, but attitudes like that, especially from those who seem otherwise intelligent, such as yourself, really kind of tick me off.

The scariest thing about this technology is not that it can be used to potentially find terrorists.
It's the fact that really, they can program any keyword they want to into the computers and track whoever they want to!
And if they decide, "Hey, let's look for all the people that are dissenters and against the government"
they can.
They can know exactly where you are, and WHO you are, and then track you.
For dissenting.
Of course who knows if this is getting used right now but the fact that really, they could plug in any words they wanted to and single out any group of people to track scares the # out of me, especially since after the FISA bill thing passed, it's not even against the law to do this.
They can look up whoever they want to look up!
And I believe that this kind of technology will be used to track those that disagree with the way government is run... and that it probably already has been used in this way before, actually. Who knows, I mean there are so many people on this terrorist watch list, c'mon. There aren't 1 million terrorists in America, but there are that many dissenters and more.
Think about it.