Non-religious religious views, page 1

posted on Nov, 4 2008 @ 11:32 AM

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You who are yet religious, tell me your non-religious views. I mean, I know damn well you are yet not whole religious minded in every single thing, or on every single matter, or toward every single person. So what are yet your non-religious views which are yet non-conflicting or conflicting with your religion? And speak from the pure heart since your pure heart already committed the manufacturing of the very non-religious views. Plus, what does your religion say on the non-religious any thing?

In conspiracy, all your conflicting hearts act to cover up true views since your religions work in making as many as they can feel shame or feel dirty or feel immoral or feel worldly or feel guilt. Did I not hit the nail?

Ask yourself what sort of religion wants you an unpure and untrue you at all costs. Ask yourself what sort of God doesn't want you to be yet you, that also wants you following other men's religious views, as if, they are your commanders. And ask yourself do you want a bunch of fakes being inside heaven who can not open up their hearts.

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Anonymous ATS

posted on Nov, 4 2008 @ 12:28 PM

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orangetom1999

posted on Nov, 4 2008 @ 12:33 PM

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LOL LOL Mabus,

Went to public school and never got over it or past it??

Ive seen you attempt this tack or variations of it..several times.

I am not sure you are even capable of thinking it through but in one broad corridor.

You who are yet religious, tell me your non-religious views.

Please spend some time thinking this nonsense through...when you get it ..please post back to me and others on this thread.

We will be happy to let you know if you finally get it.

In conspiracy, all your conflicting hearts act to cover up true views since your religions work in making as many as they can feel shame or feel dirty or feel immoral or feel worldly or feel guilt. Did I not hit the nail?

You are way off the nail. Way out in the next county from where the nail is located.
Man made guilt conditioning as is so politically popular ..especially in public education does not work with me.
If you are successful in trying this with people on these boards or elsewhere, these peoples are still on milk and not strong drink.

Ask yourself what sort of religion wants you an impure and untrue you at all costs. Ask yourself what sort of God doesn't want you to be yet you, that also wants you following other men's religious views, as if, they are your commanders. And ask yourself do you want a bunch of fakes being inside heaven who can not open up their hearts.

To those who know ..and are trained in it..this is luciferian doctrine..

Deus Meumque Jus

god is my right..or what I want is god

To win the absolute mastery of everything by any means. This is a religious dogma and it is the prevailing religious dogma on earth...it comes in many variations..but always the same thing. Becoming pureby works and working our way to our salvation and demigod status ..by works..by degrees...in the wisdom of this world.

Orangetom

justamomma

posted on Nov, 4 2008 @ 12:50 PM
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Wow... You are really going all out on this "yet" business, huh?

If I understood what you are asking correctly, my non-religious religious views can be summed up in one word. Experience.

There is no greater way to learn than to experience life as is with out expectation and/or fear. Being aware of how you react to the experiences can give you deeper insight not only into yourself, but also those around you, the world as a whole, and the nature of the true Creator (who can be found deeply embedded in the harmony of good and evil).

Experiencing and allowing others to experience is all I have thus far.

And no, I would not want to leave this life feeling pressured by the demands of religion only to find myself in a heaven full of the same ppl who refuse to accept w/out condemnation those that live differently from their personal ideals and beliefs.

I would rather cease to exist. Although, considering that fire consumes and punishment in most religious sects consists of fire, I take it to mean that hell is being consumed by one's selfish desire and/or others' selfish desires (remembering that selfishness can be "packaged" to appear as though it is anything but selfish... it is a fine line that few are aware of).

I find the most peace in my life when I heed the words "Live and let live."

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asmeone2

posted on Nov, 4 2008 @ 12:55 PM
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Oh go east on him Orange Tom, I think there is a language barrier here.

Anyways.

One can be "religious" about anything, it doesn't have to be religion... anything can be dogma, case in point is a fanatial Athiest.

As for your last paragraph, I think the God demanding perfection is a peculiarly Judiac sentiment, most other religions value the path towards perfection more than the perfection itself.

orangetom1999

posted on Nov, 15 2008 @ 12:20 PM
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As for your last paragraph, I think the God demanding perfection is a peculiarly Judiac sentiment, most other religions value the path towards perfection more than the perfection itself.

You know..asmeone..
I must have missed this part of your post when some time back I first read it. My apologies for missing the concept here.

Actually ..no ..It is not a Judiac sentiment. It is a Lucerfian/pagan sentiment. Advancing by degrees in the Wisdom of this World.

I say this because in reading the Olde Testament and also the New Testament it becomes quite obvious that men ...no matter what their educational levels... cannot reach perfection and continually fall short. This point is quite clear..cover to cover....both Olde and New Testaments.

All pagan religions...have men working by some dicta..some dogma...by degrees...work and education in this dogma to perfection. The more often one wears the mortar board and advances in degrees the more god like they are considered to be ..more divine..more educated. They become like demigods here on this earth.

If one thinks it through ..many of these people wind up in governments and practice this religion that they can improve things by getting enough educated demigods in power. It never seems to work out ..only waxes worse.

There seems to be something very wrong with the assumptions made about wisdom and power.

I dont buy into this popular dogma.

Thanks,
Orangetom