Phoenix Lights post on mythbusters

Hi, i know alot of UFO, etc.... and just thinking to post to the mythbuster to verify the myth of Phoenix light, if it was realy a alien spaceship or just a UFO or military flares or something else.

Does we realy know the truth or does it scares us, they already made a moon landing special myth and busted some thing, but of course it can be revisited. Why live in a doubt if we can try to prove what those lights in Phoenix were. They can investigate, make a interview wiht a former governer of Arizona and get the offical data of the military, that beck then claimed that there were military flares and even ask NASA specific questions how they look on the UFO matter with the right question of course.

The first step is for the USA to finaly admit that UFO do exists and that they of course track all of the UFO and identify them, the next step is of course if there are maybe some alien spaceship and in this case i can even confirm, that there of course are alien spaceship, becouse they use the world alien even for imigrants, that doesent mean, that they are from extraterestrian and some advanced civilisation, but slowly we must aproach to the truth.

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If you can, please log in here and make your post, so that this will be alway on the first page with a lot of reply, to get the attention of mythbusters and make some good argument, we will se, how the reaction will be.

reply to post by carotson


I don't agree with "aliens" but, agree this would be a great episode. I would love to see them tackle a couple of these.

Good idea

Hey dude thanks for the post..

ive studied ufos now for at least 15 years, books videos, seminars etc..

Phoenix lights footage caught me deep... this was not flares, this was some serious V type footage ( programme from the 80s )..

Ive seen too much footage from all different sources on phoenix lights, this was in no way military flares.

Military flares ? hehe.... NOT !

Mythbusters?...mmm.... excellent idea, but what if the mythbusters actually do an episode on this and somehow prove to us that the phoenix lights were fake?

I would probably believe that the mythbusters were government debunkers if that was the case

The pheonix lights is one of the few genuine UFO cases IMHO

By the way, did UFO Hunters do an episode about pheonix yet or not?.

exactly easnow..

That is some V type chi going on right there.

The only question ive got is " hey, you showed up, phoenix prooved it, now why not show up daytime and blow this ufo / religeon malarky right out the window!".

majorian,

the military have tried for years to prove this is flares..

Show me footage of flares in the above scenario that hold position for as long as that camera postion without flares dropping or burnout and ill eat this PC.. I wont even ask for hotsauce

reply to post by zeetroyman


the flares are dropping and they go behind the mountains. I saw a documentary where they overlaid daytime footage from the same spot to the phoenix lights.

With just a black background you have no frame of reference. In the daytime you can see mountains and its noticable the lights are falling behind them

Originally posted by yeti101
reply to post by zeetroyman

 

the flares are dropping and they go behind the mountains. I saw a documentary where they overlaid daytime footage from the same spot to the phoenix lights.

With just a black background you have no frame of reference. In the daytime you can see mountains and its noticable the lights are falling behind them

I'm sorry dude... if you're trying to say that these lights were flares, then you're wrong.

Everybody who saw this said that it couldn't have been flares. Even EX. Gov. of Arizona Fife Symington said that these lights were "other worldly" and he was a pilot by the way.

The documentary you saw was probably government debunking BS. Just my two cents

[edit on 31/10/08 by Majorion]

yeti, ive seen the same daytime footage superimposed over the nightime footage. Flares have not been shown to drop behind any mountains, I know this as i studied phoenix lights for many years.. if you can point me to the documentry that covers this point the way. These lights showed up over the city, not behind the mountains.

also the Triangle craft on the same night, there is footage out there for it, ive just yet to see it.

Originally posted by Majorion
I'm sorry dude... if you're trying to say that these lights were flares, then you're wrong.

Everybody who saw this said that it couldn't have been flares. Even EX. Gov. of Arizona Fife Symington said that these lights were "other worldly" and he was a pilot by the way.

[edit on 31/10/08 by Majorion]

I don't know for certain whether the video is flares or something unexplained but many UFO researchers believe the video IS probably flares. The problem is that this does not explain the sightings from earlier in the night where people observed a large triangular craft that flew across the valley. (This is the sighting that Symington says he saw).

The flares/whatever in the video are stationary or slowly descending.

reply to post by zeetroyman



i find this quite convincing

When I lived in Phoenix, strange lights were a regular appearence.

I went outside to see some once, that were hovering over the whole city, it was very surreal and nothing like I have seen before.

It was funny because the newscasters were reporting them. And they would say: and Luke AFB says it is just flares, yadda yadda yadda, and you could tell that that they totally didn't believe it.

LIke here is the usual excuse from Luke AFB.

I wonder why Phoenix?

Originally posted by yeti101
i find this quite convincing

Quite convincing of what?

video manipulation?

[edit on 31-10-2008 by malignant_tumor]

Originally posted by malignant_tumor
Quite convincing of what?

video manipulation?

Yep. Well, that and the fact they are flares going behind a mountain.

The first part of the Pheonix sighting is the only thing that remains interesting about the case, as its neither flares or sound like a conventional aircraft.

Originally posted by zeetroyman
majorian,

the military have tried for years to prove this is flares..

Show me footage of flares in the above scenario that hold position for as long as that camera postion without flares dropping or burnout and ill eat this PC.. I wont even ask for hotsauce

Mythbusters must ask the military what happened that night if they realy have calls from citizens reporting a UFO, we must find records, then they must find when the military give the explanation, why they took so long and if those realy was flares, they must try to recreate the mit from same locetion in the day and in the night and see the results if those were realy flares like the military said and the footage will be very identical, then the myth is busted, if not, thet was realy a UFO and we have an indeniable proof, that the military lie about UFO, becouse if they have a UFO sightings, they must catalogue it and researched, they know what that realy was.

It will also be good if they preanouce this episode and ask witnesses, to come forward, especialy if thay have also videotape that object, becouse they said 10.000 people saw it, its strange why there is just a video from one prospective, that alway bothered me.