The Second American Civil War

This would be sit x.
It would be split between Liberals and Republicans.
How I would see this end up would be a total massacre.
The liberals do not believe in gun ownership and the conservatives are "gun nuts".
It would be a fast no contest blood bath.

And the country can start anew.

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I am a liberal, by thinking not political definition, and I have way too many firearms at easey access, also I dont think its going to go down betweenthe citizen parties per say, I think the war will be between the mititary of this and other countries that would love to see facism, or totalitarian rule here, and no It wont be a massacer, I think the gov knows we have the power not them even with all the tech. and weaponry, there are simply to fing many of us even if they had a kill to kill ratio of 500 to one the military simply isnt large enough. IE the term sleeping beast. Besides, short of a huge event such as a nuke or obviouse coo. Its not going to happen out in the open it will be a subversive financial civil war of sorts that happens here, they will use food and money as the main souces of battle.

I've met many southerners that still hold on to "The South Shall Rise Again" mentality.

I'm under the belief that if a new civil war breaks out, it will be American Nationalists against all others.

Originally posted by deathhasnosound
The liberals do not believe in gun ownership and the conservatives are "gun nuts".

A lot of inner city people own guns and vote democrat.
The dems have plenty of guns - both legal and illegal to pick from.
The gun ownership thing is probably evenly split.

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How about something like this to kick off sit-x or a civil war?

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Originally posted by deathhasnosound
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The liberals do not believe in gun ownership and the conservatives are "gun nuts".
It would be a fast no contest blood bath.

And the country can start anew.

So the country is given a whole new political system or the same old Republican agenda carries forward?

Originally posted by FlyersFan
The gun ownership thing is probably evenly split.

I actually have to disagree with you on this one.
How many NRA members are Liberal/Democrats?

Originally posted by roadgravel
So the country is given a whole new political system or the same old Republican agenda carries forward?

No indeed!
The New Conservative party carries on.

What percentage of gun owners are NRA members. Bet no one in the 'hood is.

Edit: I live in a rural area. Half or more of the county is rural the rest very small towns. Out here I would say 80% to 90% of the houses have one or more guns. I know every one on my road and near miles does. I suspect that 10% to 15% might be NRA members. Not a real good measure of guns and owners.

[edit on 10/30/2008 by roadgravel]

Edit: typo county

[edit on 10/30/2008 by roadgravel]

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Im another liberal with guns - so watch out you conservatives, it won't be a cakewalk!

Originally posted by roadgravel
What percentage of gun owners are NRA members. Bet no one in the 'hood is.

oh touche! great answer! you got me on that on

I'm hardline conservative. The Kaiser is slightly left of me where I currently stand, and I find your simplification of the "next American civil war" to be preposterous. If such a war ever comes to pass it may initially flare up under the guise of conservatives vs liberals, but that would be a false flag war manufactured by those in power in an effort to shield themselves from a percieved attack by the people en masse. I believe the majority of America is smart enough and currently distrustfull of government enough to see through such a misdirection.

My (non criminally minded) neighbor isn't my enemy, regardless of which political ideology he subscribes to. The guy 2 offices down isn't my enemy even if he does have a "Obama for Change" bumper sticker on his Volvo. The old man I run into at the coffee shop who stands there talking about how we're all going to Hell in a handbasket because of Iraq isn't my enemy even though I feel he narrowmindedly places the entire blame for that war on one political party when I feel it is the shared blame of all in Washington who allowed it to become what it is.

My enemy isn't my enemy because of their political affiliation (unless we're talking some way out there fool who declares themself a member of the Death to America party or some nonsense such as that.) My enemy is found inside the people who harbor dangerous ideals and values AND have the means and wield the power to make those a reality regardless of the wishes and interests of the American people as a whole. I'm talking about men who vote to hand trillions of OUR dollars over to corporate buddies defiantly while We the People stand at their feet shouting "NO!" My enemy is the man who believes Americans don't need firearms and the 2nd Amendment is "outdated" or "irrelevant" to a "civilized society" AND who has the abillity to act on that belief through stripping We the People of our 2nd Amendment right. I'm talking about the man who preaches socialism and equality AND then uses their power to unequally bring about their utopia at the expense of We the People of the middle class off of our blood, our sweat, and our tears and then mortgages the blood, sweat, and tears of our children and grandchildren to make up their defecits. That's MY enemy and that who will be on one side of any future US civil war. They wills end their puppets into battle while we stand against them as patriots. The difference is we have everything to lose and we would be fighting against a force who risks nothing personally, rather one which orders their puppets to risk all.

If there is a 2nd US civil war, it won't be like the first war. Brother will not fight brother, neighbor will not fight neighbor, WE will fight against THEM, not against ourselves... which is what your scenario of trying to break the sides down into political demagoguery is suggesting.

the real issue is the american peoples are sick and tired of being used and abused by the elite greedy all powerful and those who make or help payoff people to make laws for them to do what ever they feel like. a coup de tah or government takeover by the elite. we the people need to take control of this and kick out the control of and the manipulation of the government by the elite. we the people need to make a revolution, like the ones our forefathers did. this one i believe will be of hacker related, my oppinion.

Just think of the street gangs and biker gangs,they are for most part racist and anarcists they have access to hand grenades bomb's etc this could get real messy,best I could see happen is the US ends up in 3 groups,and I see no good become of it

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Slapped you with a star, bubba.

Great post, and it mirrors what I often think.

Kudos!!!

I have to agree, I have seen this coming for a long time now.
I have talked to many people about it, including police officers, soldiers, and other folks, and for the most part all see a 2nd. Civil War on the horizon. It will be the people against the powers that be, the controllers, and it will not be pretty. There are a lot of Patriots in the country, and a lot of gun nuts. We are an armed nation. For the nay sayers, just wait until the electricity grid goes down, and services stop running, and grocery store shelves have no food to buy. We are on the very edge right now. Wake up and smell the gun powder.

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There are several countries that would love to see the USA have a civil war. I'm sure they love the tension our election is creating. Right now, I think, we are our own worst enemy. We, as one people, a unified nation, need to get our act together and move forward.

Actually cynically thinking the inner cities areas would essentially wipe themselves out on their own. They are already practically doing that now. All it takes is one small act to trigger them and they essentially riot and destroy burn everything.

I wish I had been born a little earlier and had accumulated some wealth I would buy some land out in a remote area and build me a mini compound and stock pile it with everything I'd need to survive a zombies, nuclear radation, nazi's back from the north pole, aliens, T-Virus, Rage virus, sith lords, etc.

If a second Civil War came down as described. How would you identify the enemy. Were looking at a whole new set of uniforms. Reps. in standard battle fatigues and dems in full Tie Dye Battle Dress.

Originally posted by deathhasnosound

Originally posted by FlyersFan
The gun ownership thing is probably evenly split.

I actually have to disagree with you on this one.
How many NRA members are Liberal/Democrats?

I am sorry but I had to laugh at this. Just because you are not part of the NRA doesn't mean you don't or can't own a weapon. I know of at least a dozen people that could supply a platoon with enough weaponry and ammunition to put up a good fight. None of them belong to the NRA.

Also do you really think any of the inner city thugs and gangs belong to the NRA? I highly doubt it.

You have to remember if a civil war breaks out it isn't the white color man/woman you should be worried about. Its the redneck farmer and his buddies defending their land. The thugs and gang members defending I don't know whatever it is they defend.

Basically I'm saying Democrat, republican, libertarian, farmer, white collar, thug, gang banger, drug dealer, 7-11 owner, burger flipper, truck driver, whatever you are doesn't classify whether or not you have a weapon. Having a weapon period classifies whether or not you have a weapon not a plastic card with an acronym on it.