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Disclosure Coming? UFO Invasion and Potential Weapons Scenario on Science Channel

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posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 12:02 AM
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Disclosure Coming? or "Social Integration of the "Invasion Scenario" to induce fear and greater control at a future event in the US or World? Tonight on Science Channel HD I have been watching a new show called Sci-Fi Science. The episode is on the possible scenario of an extraterrestrial UFO invasion and the weapons they may use, as well what we may need to defend ourselves and the possibility that life exists on other planets. The show includes Tesla Coils, Magnetic Fields, Laser Weaponry (e.g., lasers that fire through metal at over 300 yards mounted on a HumVee) and other extraordinary technology to repel the attack such as the Rail Gun projectile weapon with electromagnetism for projectile velocities that would not be effected by mag fields and be virtually unstoppable in theory. They acknowledge the US militaries secret experiments with this technology. They also review some deep space telescopes and HD scopes (Kepler, etc.) for viewing and finding other worlds in the universe with a high likelihood for life.

The show puts a 50s Sci-Fi humor twist to parts of it which is great, so as to soften it up for the general viewer, but there is good science in it, as well as the hope for greater social acceptance of this idea for an "Invasion Scenario" seed planted in to the consciousness of more people. You have to wonder how far the military of our countries has already actually hyper-advanced this actual technology by now. It is great to see a documentary of this kind in mainstream cable media through comcast and Discovery Channel.

I'm curious of other viewers opinions of this show or the general community opinion as to why a show like this would be developed, choreographed and aired for the public.

To quote the show,"Inevitable, Right?"



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 12:11 AM
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Havent seen it but it does sound interesting, not so sure about the invasion thing, wouldnt like to think thats whats going to replace tin foil hat syndrome


Any equipement for an alien invasion must include a good video camera with manual focus, some image analysis specialists and 10k credible witnesses otherwise you will never convince the skeptics that all the explosions are not justCGI or blue screen tech



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 12:40 AM
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Well the aliens never have to land to conquer us. They could sit comfortably up in space with a relatively small fleet and rain asteroids on us at will.

Rail guns and lasers can't prevent that. They own space, we don't. Like shooting fish in a barrel. Literally.

After the asteroids tear up the atmosphere and weather, mankind will be more focused on fighting the deteriorating climactic conditions as the earth's ecosystem spirals out of control.

All this shows is that if aliens land and fight us on our own level, then its a faked invasion, pure and simple. Why mix it up if they don't have to?



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 12:44 AM
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Just like the show Mega Disasters, yes, this scenario is inevitable. Hoaxed or not, this thing WILL happen eventually.

A person may well argue that extraterrestrial life is unavoidable, but they lack the means to get here. Well, it is simply a matter of time before they CAN get here and thus, only a matter of time before there is a space war.

I make this, seemingly illogical, jump based solely on the fact that our species is a warlike species. It may be argued that other species are not warlike, but that doesn't jive with me.
Our base of reference is ourselves. We are spacefaring, we are warlike. There will be others. It is only a matter of time provided we live long enough to see it.

As far as why this show is being aired, well, its about time. One way or another, I believe that disclosure is upon us (real or hoaxed) and that either way, it is a monumental historical moment. Good or bad, it is still the most important thing in human history to date.

It will be an overnight evolutionary jump when it finally happens. Think of all the people that think this sort of thing is flat out impossible. It is going to broaden their horizons to the point that we can't even phathom right now and they will pass that on to their children. Mankind will be better off with this knowledge. Even if the threat is hoaxed. Or better yet, even if it is real but embellished.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 12:58 AM
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they are already here, and ifthey can reach us, I dont think theres a way to defend ourselves ... they can desarm any form of weapon that we have


man, the universe must be a movie, really, if u think that may be 300000000000000000 civilizations out there, wow, there s a possibility of some kind of universe organization, that I dont think would let our planet be invaded ...

another thing, they are already here, they can do whatever they want, we cant do # about it ...

we just dont know nothing about the universe, and THAT IS #ING SCARY ...



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 01:49 AM
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i think we are at war already. my samurai intuition tells me that the 'aliens' are not what we think they are and are not that much more teck advanced than humans. for real though, that would be the *snip* craziest thing if one day president obama broadcasts from some bunker surrounded by generals and tells us that humanity is at war with an 'alien' invader and that some countries have been compromised and even elements within our own gov. on the bright side wouldn't have to worry about that mortgage payment anymore


[edit on 11/9/2008 by Badge01]



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 05:24 AM
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You cant determine an enemies method of assault from their capabilities alone.

The method of assault can only be estimated by identifying the enemies intentions towards its final target.

If their target is total annihilation of earth, well then yeah, turn the surface into a carpark with asteroids.

However, there is very little on this planet, that you cant get on any other planet. Other than us. We are easily this planets best commodity. Any assault on this planet, one would have to assume that we are the target.

Likewise you cant vapourise our infrastructure, unless you want to bring the means along to support your prize. IE, it precludes outright confrontation, hoards of laser wielding aliens marching through the streets blowing up buildings.

No, your best move is the long term plan. If I was to do it, I would wage a psyop campaign of epic proportions over generations. You take your special forces, and unleash them covertly amongst the populace.

You have your military forces, they instill fear into the populace, kidnappings, close encounters, tag key people so you can track them or use them to unwittingly gather intel through medical tampering, maybe down a few aircraft once in awhile under "mysterious circumstances", investigate and tamper chemically/genetically with food supplies. You perform recon on installations, industry & critical infrastructure, determine how to disable or take down defence structures. Soften the populace chemically, psychologically and target individuals and facilities of import.

You then have your intelligence forces. Either your own people altered to fit in, or collaborators. These people you move into your targetted facilities, government departments, sow discord, sabotage financial systems and systems of government, inspire hatred and distrust of authority structures, either through action or inaction, allow society to splinter. They gather intelligence, biological, social, historical, spiritual. You may even have limited contact at certain levels, throw the dogs a bone of technology now and then to give them the edge over their neighbours, but never enough to be a threat. Your Fifth column may even become strong enough to establish its own guiding forces inside government given time and resources. And of course no psychological warfare programme is complete without propoganda, infiltration of the media, report what manipulates and causes hysteria, ignore anything that can unify the populace. One could even sanction operations built to sow distrust between belief systems, muslim vs jew vs christian.

The end result is a populace unable to formulate a cohesive resistance through distrust, confusion and control of key targets(Personnel, systems & infrastructure). By the time you land, you arent attacked as a conquering force, you are greeted as saviours. We arent slaves to the dollar, we are slaves to what these "gods" have told us is our destiny. The government rubber stamps it, religion enshrines it, the media feed it to us. Volunteers for slavery are easier to control than forced slaves.

You will get pockets of resistance absolutely, but with your intelligence apparatus already in place to expose them, locate them, your military forces already deployed, and the media well controlled, its easy to ignore the decimation of a few "extremists" on the 6 oclock news. For a laugh, you may even get Earth governments to do the job for you as an operation against terrorists.

Of course this is completely hypothetical, but fits somewhat with alot of disjointed concepts that float around the community. It is of course only one unifying theory that fits the generally accepted circumstances by believers. Alot of what we see may be for our own good and part of a greater plan, or maybe for their good and part of someone elses greater plan.

Wait and see, you have no real option.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by Z.S.P.V.G.
reply to post by Baracas
 


i think we are at war already. my samurai intuition tells me that the 'aliens' are not what we think they are and are not that much more teck advanced than humans.


ROFL! Is that similar to 'Spidey Senses'?


IRM



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 09:25 AM
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Wow! You've given this a great deal of thought. A frightening scenario, to be sure. It makes me wonder if the current global financial meltdown isn't part of the plan.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 02:41 PM
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I like your thinking. However, I disagree that this planet has very little. Our planet is blessed with being right in that "easily habitable" zone, being just far enough away from Sol to give us plenty of liquid water (not something you see throughout even our own solar system), easy access to all of our minerals and exotic metals. We have an abundance of plant life. The list could go on and on.
Just look at a picture of earth from the moon. It is a gorgeous and very inviting planet, imo.
That being said, I still like your thinking. One thing that *I* personally would do is harvest the technology we create and the materials we mine from the Earth before I did ANYTHING to the population. I would let the people do a whole bunch of work for me and in the mean time, I would continually sabotage their efforts to develop a space program.

Speaking of space program, I find the fact that we ARE developing a space program compelling to the possibility that ET is NOT out to harm us. If it were ME monitoring this planet, I would absolutely NOT allow a warlike people to make it into outerspace.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
I like your thinking. However, I disagree that this planet has very little. Our planet is blessed with being right in that "easily habitable" zone, being just far enough away from Sol to give us plenty of liquid water (not something you see throughout even our own solar system), easy access to all of our minerals and exotic metals. We have an abundance of plant life. The list could go on and on.
Just look at a picture of earth from the moon. It is a gorgeous and very inviting planet, imo.


I agree, liquid water is a big plus however mining ice on europa would have far less overhead in dealing with us apes and our governments, and being habitable does place us in a good position for a colony planet, assuming our atmosphere is chemically compatible with their biologiy on a long term basis. I think we are more likely to prepped as "client kings" just like the ancient roman concepts of hommage if this theory pans out. The roman emporer chooses a king, the king runs the country, the country provides troops and resources to the emporer as required, and in return, they dont get annihilated.



That being said, I still like your thinking. One thing that *I* personally would do is harvest the technology we create and the materials we mine from the Earth before I did ANYTHING to the population. I would let the people do a whole bunch of work for me and in the mean time, I would continually sabotage their efforts to develop a space program.

Speaking of space program, I find the fact that we ARE developing a space program compelling to the possibility that ET is NOT out to harm us. If it were ME monitoring this planet, I would absolutely NOT allow a warlike people to make it into outerspace.


Yes we are warlike, but our forays into space are the equivalent of letting little bobby ride his peddle car on the footpath. He just isnt in the same league as an SUV on the highway, and if he peddles onto the highway, he gets crushed very quickly.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 06:59 PM
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That may be completely true. However, in the case of Europa, we know NOTHING else of its composition.

Meaning, no lead known, no gold known, no titanium, no uranium, no plutonium, no iron known, etc. While it may be argued that those things are almost certainly present on Europa, try figuring your overhead on those projects without people to mine it for you.

And those are just the metals.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 07:32 PM
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I see your point, we could be considered the 7-11 one stop shop of this sector of space, at any rate, as I said, all we can do is wait and see really.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 07:50 PM
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Agreed. And unfortunately, that is the crux of the issue. We simply cannot move forward until we are pushed along. One thing is certain, there is more to the truth. What it is, I don't know, but we can't know until we are either helped, or we help ourselves. Both are inevitable. I feel that it is now a race between the awareness of the people vs. the plans of the elite.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 08:01 PM
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So i take it anyone who believes some sort of war with aliens is inevitable also believes that we have never been visited?

If not, why are we still here?



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 08:05 PM
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i wouldnt get your hopes up for disclosure... its just a t.v. show... we have had those.. since the 40s.. its just more of the same old same old... nobody knows anything about aliens or alien spacecraft... all we know is that there are mysterious objects flying around .. and being spotted once in awhile.. have been for centuries... were no closer now.. than we ever were.. to knowing what they are.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 08:14 PM
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I watched that last night. I was scrolling throught the channels and found it. It was a great show I liked the laser part but the whole thing was cool. I dont think ET's are here to take control. I think the government is trying to make the public think that so there will be a reason to go to war with ET's. So here is what I think will happen, The government will get there hands on as much ET tech (ufo's, advanced weapons, ect) and use it against the people to make us believe we are being invaded. Thats my thoughts.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 08:27 PM
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I find the idea that we would be of any use to an alien civilisation capable of carrying out the plan you've just laid out in your post far fetched, to put it mildly. The fact that they can get here in the first place goes completely against that idea.

Time and time again, people fail to grasp the implications of technological breakthrough. Just as a quick example .... Robots capable of doing 99% our physical labour will be available to us loooooong before we have the ability get to Alpha Centauri (if it's possible).



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 08:29 PM
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Agree, except in the extremely unlikely event they were hostile - we'd just die, there wouldn't be a war.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 08:44 PM
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In reply to Geoff Capes since the reply button isn't working:

I think that is nearsighted. What say you to the possibility of a species coming here and finding that we are ALREADY mining materials from the earth and they just decide to covertly subjugate us and take our resources?

I tend to think it is almost ALWAYS foolish to assume to understand the minds of something that is ADMITTEDLY more capable than our own.

When I say admittedly, I don't mean to say that I admit they are here. You already granted that idea in your response.




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