Abortion clinic bombers not terrorists: Palin

Abortion clinic bombers not terrorists: Palin

Asked by NBC television presenter Brian Williams whether an abortion clinic bomber was a terrorist, Governor Palin heaved a sigh and, at first, circumvented the question.

"There's no question that Bill Ayers by his own admittance was one who sought to destroy our US Capitol and our Pentagon. That is a domestic terrorist," Governor Palin said, referring to a 1960s leftist who founded a radical violent gang dubbed the Weathermen and who years later supported Senator Obama's first run for public office in the state of Illinois.

"Now, others who would want to engage in harming innocent Americans or facilities that it would be unacceptable to ... I don't know if you're gonna use the word 'terrorist' there," she added.

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Hmm... Double-standards don't you think?

Domestic leftist terrorists - bad.

Domestic rightist terrorists - not so bad, don't deserve 'terrorist' label.

Of course, Palin isn't justifying the bombing of abortion clinics specifically, but it brings up the whole issue of just what exactly a 'terrorist' is.

I find it dubious that people who shoot or blow up abortion clinics to kill people in the name of protecting life don't deserve the terrorist label.

I'd like to know who the 'others' are she is referring to.

[edit on 24-10-2008 by mattguy404]

Strike 200, Sarah.

It disturbes me that a woman who's going for the 2nd highest national office, supposed to lead the War On/f Terror, can't decide what a terrorist is.

If she was serious about the terrorism threat, it wouldn't matter what religion or party affiliation the "terrorist" touts.

they are just doing the lords work and got a bit over excited

its ok they said sorry and they wont do it again they will stick to throwing stones and spray painting things .......

nothing to see here just kids having fun .. obviously they cant be terrorists they beleive in god .. but i suppose if you were really being mean and harsh about it maybe terrorist could be used but they did say sorry after all

I just saw the video on this and was just dumbfounded by her answer to this question!

I'm surprised McCain hasn't gotten a gag order put against her yet!

After the question was asked, "if she thought abortion clinic bombers were terrorists", all she could do was babble on and ON about Bill Ayers!

Palin: 'I Don't Know' If Abortion Clinic Bombers Are Terrorists


Ayers, Ayers, Ayers! Did he ask a question about Bill Ayers in there that I missed?

I REALLY couldn't comprehend WHY she asked him, "I don't know if what you're asking is if I regret referring to Bill Ayers as an unrepentant domestic terrorist, ...".

Where or when did he even give her the idea this was what he was asking? Where did this come from? Why can't she even understand the question, give the answer, and not just go babbling on and on about Ayers, who had nothing to do with the question she was asked?

I actually think she is getting to the point of obsession about this Ayers thing!

She could have just kept it simple and answered yes or no.

The definition of a terrorist!

Definition of TERRORIST

1. a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism.
2. a person who terrorizes or frightens others.
******SKIP******
terrorist
noun
a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities

Hmmm, seems to me that abortion clinic bombers would fall into that definition!

Answer = YES!

I guess she just wasn't able to label a fanatic with her same views as a terrorist though!

[edit on 10/24/2008 by Keyhole]

Wow Sarah.

What bothers me isn't the fact that she has such a hard time answering the question. The answer should have been:

"Yes, someone who bombs abortion clinics is a terrorist."

I wonder who will be the first talking head on FOX to cry curveball?

More importantly, why doesn't Sarah Palin keep her interviews to Sean Hannity, where she can be assured no oppurtunity to make an ass out of herself.

edit to add: I would like to see Sarah Palin asked if she thinks a terrorist would be someone who:

Calls a lady a witch, blames her for the towns woes, organizes a large mob (including police), attempts to force her to convert and when she refuses...

...runs her out of town and kills her snake.

I wonder what that answer would be Sarah. Would it also involve Ayers, and alot of skirting the issue?

[edit on 10/24/0808 by spines]

That's because they're bombing out of love. ''

Sorry, bombing innocent people because you don't have the same political beliefs seems like terrorism to me.

Typical media baiting. I find it highly disturbing when people who should know better
use terrorism,terrorist to attack people they don't agree with. Apparently there are large segments of the dumbed down masses who are in complete agreement with the government and media utilizing the 'T' word for simple criminal acts. I'd suggest reading the most resent abomination. 'The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007' H1955/S1959. Then see how you feel about how damaging this one word will be toward the removal of our civil liberties . And no, I am not a Plin supporter.

I think she was trying to differentiate between someone who wants to bring down governments or nations and those, who want to bring down smaller operations.

They're both terrorists. She was hasty and defensive, thus her misrepresentation, IMO.
Wiki; Domestic terrorist

A domestic terrorist is one who is a citizen of the country the acts of terrorism is directed against. They are often pushing for only certain goals rather than the disestablishment of government as in anarchy. The United States FBI has three categories for classifying terrorism: left-wing, right-wing, and special-interest extremists. Included are individuals and groups such as the Ku Klux Klan, World Church of the Creator, the Aryan Nations, Leon Czolgosz, the Weather Underground, the Symbionese Liberation Army, Timothy McVeigh, Theodore Kaczynski (the "Unabomber"), Earth First, the Earth Liberation Front , Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty, the Animal Liberation Front, and Seas of David.

I THINK that includes killing abortion providers.

[edit on 24-10-2008 by Clearskies]

Originally posted by Xwino

Typical media baiting.

How was the media "baiting" her?

It was a simple question that SHOULD HAVE received a VERY simple answer!

YES!

[edit on 10/24/2008 by Keyhole]

I see nothing wrong with what she said. All I see is underlying sexism. Nothing this woman can do is right in many people's eyes. And it's only because she is a woman. But people won't admit that. They'll use every other excuse to attack her.

Guys...this is a gotcha question...and you know it...

Definition from dictionary.com:

1. a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism.
2. a person who terrorizes or frightens others.
3. (formerly) a member of a political group in Russia aiming at the demoralization of the government by terror.
4. an agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France.


terrorist

noun
a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities

Terrorist
Ter"ror*ist\, n. [F. terroriste.] One who governs by terrorism or intimidation; specifically, an agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France. --Burke.


As you can see here....terrorist....just like the word Socialist...has many interpretations.

What do i consider a terrorist? Someone who makes an attack to damage our country or government, usually by bombing. Do other people interpret it differently? Of course they do.

What do i consider someone who bombs an abortion clinic? A person attempting murder. Not a terrorist act.

The thing is....some people can say that for the people having the abortion.

I admit...even i would have a tough time with this. This was a BS question...and just shows even more how the MSM is after this woman.

It's almost an impossible thing to answer without getting caught on the bad side of someone.

It was a cheap shot.

reply to post by Blueracer


She's been attacked nonstop on ATS and the media. People happily join in the fray...treating this woman like a piece of garbage. She has been belittled in almost every conceivable way and frankly i find it sickening.

reply to post by David9176


Maybe it was but there's still a lot wrong with her answer.

Namely, that this was a yes or no question and was in no way about Ayers.

She is running for vice preseident and has a high likelihood of becoming the president. If falls on her to continue this war on terror, and she should know who is a terrorist and who is not.

[edit on 24-10-2008 by asmeone2]

reply to post by asmeone2


I think with the passage of the patriot act 1 and 2, allowed through by republicans AND DEMOCRATS, we ALL could be considered 'terrorists', when we speak against government!

reply to post by asmeone2


If i was forced to answer this...i'd probably F it up too...because people have different views of what a terrorist is. It's not like she said it was ok for this to happen. People are making more out of this than they should be.

If she has a double standard...then i probably do too. I wouldn't consider someone doing that a terrorist either.

I must be an idiot right? If this question was thrown at you out of nowhere, if you had the perfect answer i'd commend you...but you wouldn't. That question is almost impossible to answer correctly.

Namely, that this was a yes or no question and was in no way about Ayers.

It's diversion to a tough question...find me a politician who hasn't done this? I'm sure there are very few.

"Gotchya questioning"?

"Media baiting"?

This woman holds a media degree and still has no idea of how to answer a simple question.

There's nothing else to it.

There may be some discretion and confusion about whether or not terrorism only relates to destabilizing the government.

However, abortion is sanctioned by government - a domestic terrorist targeting abortion clinics may not wish to change the whole of government (well, let's face it, they'd want a Christian theocracy anyway), but they do wish to change that particular stance of the government.

It's still terrorism and Palin should have acknowledged it, ipso facto.

[edit on 24-10-2008 by mattguy404]

Originally posted by Clearskies
reply to post by asmeone2

 

I think with the passage of the patriot act 1 and 2, allowed through by republicans AND DEMOCRATS, we ALL could be considered 'terrorists', when we speak against government!

Yes. Of course.

But here she was asked about abortion clinic bombers.

Politics aside for a second, I feel that she owes the public a clear yes or no, especially on such an important question as that.

reply to post by asmeone2


Come on man...you are being WAY too technical on this. What is the answer you were wanting from her?

If she had said they were terrorist...then'd people would be posting...oh crap...now they'll actual bomb our own country.

Seriously guys....this is major nitpicking.

reply to post by David9176


What I disagree with is that a "terrorist" is only applied to selective groups, when it is politically convenient.

Ayers, who only ever talked abotu blowing something up, is a terrorist because he was associated with Obama, but an abortion clinic bomber who actuually has caused loss of life and property is just a criminal, because the motivation behind his crime towed the party line?

No. They should both be terrorists. Plain and simple.

reply to post by David9176


Her particular answer doesn't matter to me though I hope she would choose to view all terror crimes as such.

I just want to see her give an answer.