Obama, Dems Seek to End 401(k) Plans

Original post gets 7 stars.

I am starting to find this site quite sickening. The motto is to deny ignorance, but it seems as late that this site promotes ignorance.

This thread is pure bunk and Obama has nothing to do with what is stated in the link. Mischaracterizing the facts is the same as lying.

It is equivelant to saying that Intrepid promotes homosexual and child sex by posting a link to where a memebr of ATs was accussed of such. This type of action should not be allowed.

I blame the moderators for allowing this thread and others like it to continue without any substantiation of the facts. At the very least it should be put in skunkworks as should all political threads without substantiation. Anyone can accuse anyone of anything, but only the moderators can keep it from having this disinformation spread to other ignorant readers.

Do something already! I used to think this site was different from the MSM, now i realize it is only being used as another avenue for thier rubbish.

reply to post by ProfEmeritus

Our nation runs best when there are checks and balances.

You mean like '02-'06 under Bush and a Republican Congress? What got rammed through then? The Bailout Bill was sent to Congress by Bush and Paulson.

We are seeing the reaction to Bush's policies and the right-wing stranglehold unfold. Thus the right-wing desperados. The pendulum of political power is swinging wildly in this country right now. You are right that there are tough times ahead. Where was this clarity of vision six or eight years ago when you were drunk with power and living high on the backs of the rank and file? I don't have confidence in Pennsylvania Ave. or Wall Street to make the right decisions to see us through it with minimum damage right now. They are all corrupt. There is none good, no, not one.

I have made peace with my Creator, and I will trust in Him, and nothing else, to see me through, according to His awesome will for me. I will remain open to the revelation of truth through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and attempt to follow the narrow path to the sheepfold door that is Christ.

Quit worrying about all theses clowns. Find out if your Rep backed the bailout and vote them out. Take back the House for the People and all this BS is over.

reply to post by Icarus Rising

You mean like '02-'06 under Bush and a Republican Congress? What got rammed through then? The Bailout Bill was sent to Congress by Bush and Paulson.

Yes, exactly.
You obviously didn't read my entire post, or maybe you wouldn't have been so quick to shoot your partisan gun at me. IF you read my entire post, you would see that I have no use for either party, and that regardless of who is elected, events will play out, based upon the agenda of the real powers behind the puupets of Obama and McCain.

reply to post by ProfEmeritus


My apologies for the partisan gunning. I should have said "they" instead of "you" in reference to being drunk with power and living high on the backs of the rank and file.

My beliefs don't align me much with either party. I am a centrist currently sick of the right-wing policies of Bush and his cronies and their global corporate agenda taking precedence over the good of the American people. I believe Obama will be elected and can only hope he will invest in infrastructure and border and transport security the way Bush should have in the wake of 9/11 if he was serious about dealing with the threat to America.

reply to post by Icarus Rising


No problem. I truly fear that world events are going to dictate the next four years, and I'm afraid that it won't be pretty, regardless of who wins. When you look at both candidates, and eliminate the style, both are stressing tax cuts(the difference being 2 to 5% between the two), both are recommending some sort of health care plan, and all down the line. In reality, no candidate ever gets what he/she wants. It always ends up being a negotiated agreement, falling somewhere between the two positions.
The thing that does bother me is that both candidates supported the treasonous Bailout Bill, a bill which not only hasn't helped, but will not help, and in fact, by most economists' views, will make a bad situation worse. Both bought into Paulson's lies. Consider the fact that the Bill does not mandate that the $700 billion given to the banks, must be given out as loans to Americans, the alleged reason for the bailout.

As someone who consideres himself independent my initial intent on this thread was to post what the gov't as a whole was up to, unfortunately the title was changed to reflect a partisan slant. I have no use for either the Republicans or the democrats.

I was deployed during OIF, then went to work at the burn unit and I have seen first hand what Bush's policies have done to young men and women and believe it's not pretty, it's the stuff nightmares are made of. I don't like John McCain any better than Obama. I take as much issue with McCain's backing by Hagee as I do with Obama and Wright.

I think the gov't as a whole has failed this country. I have let my Rep and Senators know exactly how I feel and come election day I'll let them know even more how I feel.

Yeah, my original post should have been an actual news story and not sourced from some blog I apologize for that, but I find it scary enough that the idea is even being floated out there in any capacity. No matter who's in power, the bottom line is that our interests the middle class and lower are not at heart, they may throw us some scraps every now and then, but neither side really gives a damn.

reply to post by Kords21

As you can see, there are many of us that feel that way. I think the more people actually investigate issues and events, and analyze them, the clearer it becomes that the current 2-party system provides no real choice at all. It is amazing that both candidates are stressing CHANGE now. The ironic thing is that as far as substance is concerned, there will be NO CHANGE regardless of who is elected.

reply to post by ProfEmeritus

The thing that does bother me is that both candidates supported the treasonous Bailout Bill

This bothers me, too. A total sell out of the American people. I can't fault your forecast, either.

reply to post by Kords21


He's not black he's half white!!!