Tuning in to Extraterrestrial Contact

reply to post by MarktheSkepticUK


I'm with you on that one. The idea of this, as evidenced by some posts in this thread, causes people to go insane. They can no longer decipher regular happenings from a truly extra-terrestrial event or other because they want something that is to be what it isn't. Then they elaborate these stories and beliefs into twisted and distorted tales of supernatural abilities etc. etc. etc.

If you pay attention to these people there is a familiar pattern: they're really only fighting the truth to their own fears and frustrations of what interests them, but eludes them, and to compensate for not having an authentic experience, they must begin to make things up in their head in order to quench the elusive tangibility of their extra-terrestrial or supernatural desires.

It's too bad this topic brings with it so many that unknowingly discredit the subject through their own selfish and egotistic desires to be something more than others.

The fact is that we don't have any solid proof of extra-terrestrials, in what star systems they do or don't reside, what they look like or what their planets are like, and we will not until we go to their planet. Anything you hear about "these aliens" or "those aliens" (where these and those is add a specific name like the GFL, etc. Zeta Reticulans), yadda yadda, it's literally only literature. There is no science involved.

[edit on 24-10-2008 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]

reply to post by Skyfloating


What of us who have had contact with what I call the little beige people? I had a very real "dream" one night about 10 years ago. I was at my boyfriends home and the following occurred after we went to sleep:

In my dream, I woke up, looked out the window of the bedroom and saw all these colorful bird symbols in the sky. Then, I was lifted out of the bed, drawn through the wall (where I saw the drywall, the putty or whatever you call it where the window was held in place) and swooshed up on my back toward the underside of a spacecraft. I could see the circular lights. I remember being concerned if my friend was behind me and if he would be frightened.

When I entered this craft, I was lying on a smooth floor. Above me on what I can only describe as catwalks were these beige beings with long shapeless arms and legs, big eyes, not so much nostrils as slits, and slits for mouths. They seemed somewhat wary of me. It was very hot and humid there and I remember saying "It's hot in here!" with great irritation. That's all I remember.

Honestly, I don't think this was a dream. I just don't. Other things have happened also, which I won't go into in this post.

What I'm trying to convey here is that I believe we have been "experimented" on by some race of beings. Perhaps we agreed to this, I don't know. But, I know I don't want to be in contact with them anymore.

I cant, just write a cursory note for this subject. It is too important for simple chat. So, sorry for this length. Disregard if you have no patience.

The Alien issue is complex. It is also out of reach for a general understanding due to our collective awareness being so limited and the resistance to the implications needed to grasp even the most fundamental level of understanding having evolutionary barriers we’ve yet to cross.

First is, as the OP suggests showing the electromagnetic spectrum, our narrow band of understanding. Also our, as yet, lack of acceptance of consciousness as part of the makeup of everything we perceive and then well beyond.

The aliens (non-earth beings) are different in ways we do not understand yet. The shock from some of these encounters can, depending on the origin and character of that encounter, change the life of the experiencer or in some cases destroy that experiencers grasp with irreconcilable conflicts with their “tuning” to what we call reality. This is called Ontological Shock. Memory blockages can be self inflicted, in the same way a fusible link or a fuse works to protect a system from overload. Then there is the profound evidence that these beings can illicit memory blocks and supplement with sometimes many layers of false or screen memories. I imagine both are at work.

What we call reality is but a paper thin slice out of an infinite progression of frequencies. All these “frequencies” or “stations” if you will, can coexist in the same space because of the vast frequency differences. Therefore, the next dimension is sort of like a completely different octave or a whole scale of what we recognize as our “experience”. All happening at once, like a television having all those stations, and you picking one to watch. In reality, these all blend into each other, and there are in-between places. Many of us have experienced this or read and listened to others who have experienced them. Other life forms are seen when you journey out of this band. Some, come coming here from there too.

I believe that there are uncounted different types of life everywhere. Some next door in frequencies, and some so far from ours that we cannot fathom them in our wildest imaginations. Then, of course those in the same band, but far from our world. We encounter all of the above. Ghosts are lower energy frequencies, having no or little energy to interact with us. Others lower but energetic when they find our energy can get here. Still others from planets in our space, or whole species living in space, their planets long gone are also here interacting, some only channeling, or broadcasting to a specific receiver or person. That can happen from anywhere up or down the scale.

Some of these encounters have very understandable and native phenomena. Our context is supported to the extent that we can recognize without much difficulty forms of structure and logical depth as well as communications through speech or telepathy.

It seems that after a certain amount of evolution, most species develop communication without the clumsy squeaks and grunts of a flesh and biologically driven vocal cord. Also the linear written languages that take time, training and have vastly different configurations. Some of these alien species use very sophisticated symbol sets. (See Jim Sparks notes on this).

We are just seeing evidence in the last century for telepathy, but have no grasp other than the understanding that we all potentially have the ability and can develop it. We can measure an electromagnetic emission, but do not know if this is just a shadow of another energy we have at our disposal, but cannot perceive through our young science. Our spiritual awareness says it is there, but science needs something to measure, and cannot find such.

We are miles away from telepathy being practical yet, for even research or educational development. Maybe a child will be the first to master this, or augmented by an advanced species, (provided we can meet them without fear or greed for their power), we will acquire the skills. Some of us have experienced this actually. In encounters and other fringe experiences.

To experience an alien species you need to know how to control your own awareness. Be able to turn of fear and emotional feedback. You need to turn off your blabbering and filtering mind. Meditation is an excellent method to learn this. You find you can do everything you need to, much more directly and effectively without the chattering news anchor in your head. But having such clarity of thought in a stressful situation takes practice. Fear and panic turns the brain off and narrows all options for intelligent response. This is why the panicked swimmer drowns.

Prayer, Meditation, chanting, dancing, singing all have qualities for such training. Yoga, Zen, and many religious practices still have remnants of such training in them. Some more than others. Find your preferred “flavor” and go with that until you fancy another. Primitive peoples would use natural molecular substances to re-tune their brain to a specific frequency (station), to explore and master it, then retain its insights. Drumming, trance, ecstatic dance and many non-substance methods work still. Even a fever or an accident and trauma can change your station and you can see the world differently for a while. Such change lives for many.

Meeting an alien being, whether from a neighboring dimension, a distant world or elsewhere will have unique effects you will have never read of, or even imagined. You cannot plan for this in details. You have to know how to remain open, while trusting your internal intelligence and intuition on how to react and respond most effectively.

With some of these beings however, the mere glimpse of them will drive some people mad. The implications of meeting a being whose awareness recognizes time differently or matter and energy so differently, that there is no reconciliation for you. They may see time forward and backward in their world at the same time, and when you experience them you see reflected in them your past and future (birth and death) at the same time. I think the Moth Man is something like this. If you cannot let go internally in such a “being to being” or interpersonal meeting situation, it will feel like your life is being ripped from you and dissolving from the implications of what you perceiving. The same effect can be said for the “bad acid trip” where you cannot manage all the information you are experiencing. Like a light, you burn out, or you blow a fuse and that memory is blocked for safety, or later when you have acquired sufficient knowledge to survive it.

What we are finding is that it is ALL about our awareness. Even extraterrestrial contact. Until we mature in our understanding, maybe spiritually, first individually, then collectively, there will maybe not be actual contact as we know it or expect it.

The grays are from here (our universe), but also have some dimensional or time modulating technology and knowledge. There are several types of grays. Each species is as unique as our own Earths cultural differences. Each person will have a different experience with the same being also, depending on their particular level of awareness and acquired or inherent abilities.

You might be good at tuning to a parallel frequency where Fairies or talking creatures exist. Or a world where plants talk to you and can teach you about them (see: George Washington Carver or Luther Burbank). There are plenty of contemporaries who can do this. Healers, psychic or ESP, channelers, talk to the deceased, Talk to aliens, good spirits, bad spirits. What is your preferred channel? Are you developing the controls needed to access and use these infinite forms of awareness to make your life what you want?

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We’re all on a multidimensional cable network that spans infinite channels, dimensions, alternate networks and endlessly varied worlds. Aliens are just the beginning of the perceptions and realities permeating our lives now, and the veil is being lifted slowly, but could be thrown open by the winds of great change any time. We, some of us, feel this too.

These interacting species know we are dealing with this evolutionary change and that in order for us to be able to function in their worlds and interact as members we will need to grow up faster than our ignorance can destroy us. It is our great race for existence.

The many species watching us will have very different ways of helping or retarding our progress. Each has a unique agenda. Some want to save the rare and beautiful species we are, have us survive and be added to the garden of intelligence.

Other species while maybe less capable of compassion are held back from overt exploitation, but wait for us to expire and take what is left for their own needs. Also likely a variety of others are just visiting and seeing the complete beauty of us and our sacred Earth in the same way we travel to places we have never seen to see the beauty of the universe manifest.

Some of us have knowledge without memory of how it evolved in us. Others are listening for a way to understand the madness and potential changes are experiencing in the world. We all want to understand. To know where to go, and what to do to be happy and healthy, and to be able to share that with everyone else.

Other species might be able to help, but it comes down to you/us. You/we are the one who can change things. We are the envy of some species for what we can do, but they are amazed at how inept we are, and frightened at what we do with such undeveloped awareness. We are children with a great potential and power. Slightly above Monkeys with a nuclear capability.

Knowing about getting too close to a monkey cage, and what the monkeys like to throw, you wouldn’t want to let them know you are there, at least until they realize throwing “stuff” is not cooperative behavior anyway.

I’m not surprised at the reluctance of aliens to make formal contact.
Many of us will not behave that way, but we are currently, as a civilization represented by such governments. The diplomat does not carry a weapon to the table. We still do. Let’s start there and change. Then invite the doors and windows to open and be a responsible member of the neighborhood.

We have work to do before we have a party and welcome the neighborhood in. Lots of cleaning up our act, hide the weapons and barbed wire, learn some etiquette and how to elevate our spirit to something more in line with who we would invite.

I hope the first contacts will be altruistic and patient educators. I would be more concerned about the corporate trade guild species only looking for available resources and having such an intellectual advantage.

We are giving our sovereignty to banks and crooked governments. Until we change that, we are ripe for the picking. We need to keep our freedom, our Earth and birthrights. We still do not have a grasp for that.

I fear however there is not time to fix things. Aliens are here around us ready, and we are on the cusp of change. We might have it in us for such an evolutionary leap. I fear many will be left behind though. I pray not.

ZG

reply to post by ZeroGhost


Wow very well said, I really couldn't have said it better myself.
Thanks for your eloquent words ZG.
Bravo,bravo,bravo!

why would you believe you can communicate with aliens. ???? ask Blossom how it worked out for her...

reply to post by ZeroGhost


the fact is.. you can say anything you want.. but there is no proof that what you think you are in contact with is an alien being.. the mind can do anything you want it to.. if you want it to believe that your talking to aliens.. it will make you think you are.. but in fact your just communicating with your self.. but in a matter that is allmost like a split personality complex.. but with the right training.. you can convince your self believe that your talking with abraham lincoln, george washinton.. elvis.. hitler.. etc.. etc..etc..

Originally posted by philjwolf
reply to post by ZeroGhost

 

the fact is.. you can say anything you want.. but there is no proof that what you think you are in contact with is an alien being.. the mind can do anything you want it to.. if you want it to believe that your talking to aliens.. it will make you think you are.. but in fact your just communicating with your self.. but in a matter that is allmost like a split personality complex.. but with the right training.. you can convince your self believe that your talking with abraham lincoln, george washinton.. elvis.. hitler.. etc.. etc..etc..

In fact there is no proof for anything within a science modality. It is limited hugely by a myopia left over from ages of materialist culture.

Can you prove you love your parents? How much does that weigh? How long is it? Science needs a gross measurement. The quest for proof is but folly. We know we know.

I think, therefore...

there are trillions of experiences that have no proof, but have combined to create everything we are now experiencing.

So proof is something well beyond our actual ability with only myopic science at our command. You cannot prove it is not.

ZG

ZG

reply to post by JonInMichigan


Thank you so much for sharing that story. I understand some of what you've gone through.
I don't have the consistent memories but do have flashes of them, and saw a grey when I was 5. My son is also sharing flashes. He also saw a grey and had missing time while he was up one evening. It has been lifelong since I've been 5 and is now involving my teenage son and possibly all of my children. Despite having a rock solid cycle I had two and half months of unexplained missing cycles though there was no reason for a suspected pregnancy so I never got tested. And often woke with scoop marks, bruises and Gynaecological related things. Its only when I became concerned for my children when they were all greeting the craft that was hovering over the trees out back for 5 minutes, that these memories that I had disassociated from every time I thought of them stayed solidly and they allowed the past life memory I had apparently been shown as a child by them to come back just after our first sighting in our new hometown in April.
I'm really glad you shared because its really hard to do and bring these things up.

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[edit on 24-10-2008 by mystiq]

reply to post by ZeroGhost


like I said.. before.. ask Blossom goodchild.. who she thinks she was talking to ??

She was "channeling" something, having never seen a craft or seen an et, or having any memories of being taken, or her children doing the same. They're not the same, never have been the same, never will be the same. There is an enormous difference between her story, and calling 4 other human beings out to witness the siting of a craft for no known reason hovering above your trees for 5 minutes. Or someone driving truck with another person, and both people see a ufo fly behind a cloud, and both people see it fly out a moment later, and that moment transports them instantly from 3;30 pm to 5:30 pm and they're driving 2 hours ahead on the road, and this experience is shared by both the driver and his partner equally. These things are what experiencers go through. Blossom wrote whatever she felt internally.

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reply to post by philjwolf


Probably negative or mostly Service-to-Self entities who masqueraded as positive light beings. This entity would masquerade as positive, and attempt to discredit the group by giving inaccurate information … most commonly in the form of specific time-encoded prophecies of doom that would inevitably fail to come true. Modern channeling is replete with examples of just this.

Perhaps one should attempt challenging the entity in the name of the Higher Self, demanding that it leave if it did not come as a messenger of Love/Light/Christ Consciousness.

It appears that many of the events of our lives from banking to Illuminati control vibrate right over into this thread on contact and communion with other beings.

I believe another way to improve the ability to make contact comes from the way we interact with the creatures around us. Not just domestic animals but all of them.

When we open up to interaction with creatures around us we un-harden our minds from the need to make a living to the more real experience of life.

Whistle back at a bird and wait for a response. Have a paragraph of whistling conversation before moving on. Stop and move a turtle off of of the highway. Move a spider outside instead of just killing it. Help a raccoon out of a dumpster. When our mind begins to see the other forms of life as valuable we begin to see ourselves as a miracle of energy from the same source.

Surly there are beings of every conceivable shape and size spread around the universe. So why not not open up to the vibrations of something non scary. Communicating with an evolved rooster should be surprising but not frightening.

I have had mixed success with this. I gently removed a non biting ant from my arm one night sitting at my desk and then thought about what if when he returned to the queen he would report what would be the best size and shape of ant to send to make contact. (Yes he's going to say it), a few days later a gold-red colored ant of very close proportions to the one I saw earlier crawled out onto my arm and upon me noticing it, it gently squeezed its legs in a mild tap as if to say hello. I felt some joy at anticipation of contact and could not stop my right hand from instinctively brushing it away. I saw it climbing awkwardly on a cord across the room. Later that night I had a brief dream of it returning to the nest among the more red cousins with a golden "w" halo above its head.

There are thousands of ways to open up our minds. Guitar practice teaches our finger muscles new energies. Making it a practice to admire a lizard and speak to it exercises our contact program.

We are a planet in need due to the leaders' greed. People in need cling to things too tightly. So it seems the Native Americans and Buddhists are right, to let go and to give is to open a new channel to receive.

Originally posted by philjwolf
why would you believe you can communicate with aliens. ???? ask Blossom how it worked out for her...

That question makes no sense. What makes you think you can communicate with me when your reference is meant to confuse and otherwise just comment an opinion. I know what you are saying and there is no answer because the question is a value statement.

Strike one.

ZG

reply to post by ZeroGhost


Actually what philjwolf is saying is 100% accurate.

You have no proof. We can safely place you in the junk files with blossom goodchild, grays, plaidiens (don't even care about the spelling at this point), andromedans, etc. etc.

Good luck digging yourself out.

Originally posted by philjwolf
reply to post by ZeroGhost

 

like I said.. before.. ask Blossom goodchild.. who she thinks she was talking to ??

It could have been you. Can you prove it was not?

Many say they have talked to Aliens. What's your point. Some lie? So what. The many experiences with aliens I have studied do things with a purpose in sometimes other dimensions of logic we don't have access to. They can see, that by telling someone like Goodchild such a thing that they can get massive behavioral data to scope out for planning, or get more people predisposed to cynicism to not believe in such so they (the aliens) can do more business without anyone paying attention. They are smarter than you and me in very deviceive ways.

Or maybe Goodchild was getting information from a hopeful unconscious, or an entity that is causing problems to harvest your energy. Who knows?

Why do you think?

ZG

reply to post by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal


Making a broad generalization regarding one subject or field of study on the basis of one account (IE: Blossom Goodchild), last time I checked, was called stereotyping. Such ignorance has no place in this thread I say! If you disagree with the points and suggestions made, fine, but what's the reason in trying to prolong an argument with people you will never convince in the first place?

Instead of feeding the trolls, I have another question of substance I would like to bring to the discussion:

Is it safe or recommended to use brain entrainment programs such as Neuro Progammer? Or is it up to personal discretion? I've found their dissociative and deep relaxing tracks to be helpful in calming me down and tuning into a deeper meditative state.

reply to post by Tgautier13


Wrong, there is no generalization about a field of study being made. As I've said before, this isn't study, it isn't science. It has its origins in literature.

No one has ever been to Zeta Reticuli and no one has ever been to the Plaeidies. This isn't a field of study, this involved no science. This is a field of fairy tales, make believe hysteria, self delusion, neurotic derangement and split personalities and if you go back to my original post at the top of the page I clearly explained why the people become this way.

Also, I never suggested I was here to sway anyone to believe in anything. So please, if you could keep your tongue in your mouth and follow along with my oh so carefully chosen statements and wording, and oh so carefully not chosen statements and words, I'd appreciate it ten-fold.

I'm glad you meditate. Different strokes for different folks. Hope it does wonders for you forever and allows you to feel ebullient.

Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
reply to post by ZeroGhost

 

Actually what philjwolf is saying is 100% accurate.

You have no proof. We can safely place you in the junk files with blossom goodchild, grays, plaidiens (don't even care about the spelling at this point), andromedans, etc. etc.

Good luck digging yourself out.

Out of what? You cannot prove it is not true either. We have the same dilemma.

Prove a negative. Go ahead. I'm waiting.

Prove there is no proof. You cant do that either.

You are playing a game you do not understand the rules and have no idea how to articulate other than to say Prove it?

Be specific. Prove what? Everything?

You want me to prove aliens exist or you will will not believe anyone talking about aliens? OK, I can deal with that.

I guess you are not convinced, so that's OK. That shows you are fairly intelligent and will need more data and an experience. I can't give you that so you need go somewhere else.

ZG

reply to post by CavemanDD


Hi,

i was following your posts in the the other thread OOBE, with the OP
claiming 'he got assisted'.... thats a great read.

I have a really open mind, i say im level 7 in bad days and peaked at
level 9 at least 3 times over my 'time' here.

Communication... its bad already in the physical world when talking thru
our body, who most likely filters and changes our purposes (of getting an
idea out to the other) with all the evolutional programming, and excess
emotion - and yet, we all 'feel' we are doing the right thing (later to be
sorry, asking for forgiveness).

Back on the subject, with 2 experiences over my entire life on lucid
dreaming (one lucky and the other with the aid of 'get back to sleep again'
technique) i felt that my conscience rose high from the noise of the vessel,
and the fact that i was wanting to fly gives to me an idea of freedom; but
the ability to create the terrain and no other person freely talking to me
(or not saying what i want them to say) the process is definitely inside our
heads.

My point is: im inclined to state that LD is within the scope of the duality of
our existence, and therefore still ruled by the premisse of sleep or awake
dreams (you stop and wanders withou feeling time passing by) - the
processing of understanding the past, the fears or happiness being
multiplied with YOUR point of view.

LD is getting of the house - but to some the garden is soo damn big, and
reach the streets requires a lot of exploring, cutting through the bush and
learning.

Whooa.... sorry for the long post.