India's Chandrayaan Blasts Off To The Moon!

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So you wouldn't happen to know exactly what the "imaging machine for capturing scenes from outta space" would be now would ya?

Would like to see the specs if possible.

wZn

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From a few posts back, by Sentinel2107

# Video Imaging System – for acquiring images of the surface of the Moon during the descent at a close range. The video imaging system consists of analog CCD camera.

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Originally posted by wolfgang1711

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow

Originally posted by wolfgang1711
isro.org...
isro.org...

carefully picked photographs I think

What?! They must be kidding, please tell me these are the photos from the McDonalds Lunar Orbiter (but then again, even they were clearer, and in focus).

Aye curumba!

*booos*

wZn

by far this is the highest resolution pic in my opinion. I have never seen such clear pics... just save those pics and then zoom it you would be surprised, in my opinion each of them seems to be 25 kms above lunar surface.

The images are CGI all the way.

These are terrible ISRO photos. Its all pixelated up, to say it one way.

Where are all those JAXA pictures anyway? It's been ages.

No, actually Japan (and possibly India as well) was given sweet trade deals in exchange to keep quiet... So folks, no JAXA pictures for us. It's not going to happen.

The point is, you go to the moon, you outfit a camera to the space vehicle that costs more than 500 dollars American.

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A nice rendition of MIP path to the moon surface:


Source: Breakneck suicide dive gifts India a ‘beautiful’ moon

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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow

 

This is a scientific mission, not a beauty pageant. The purpose of the MIP is to learn things about the character of the surface. To scout an LZ, not look for

Gud 1 !! But then these Moon pics taken by the MIP whilst descending is pretty good stuff!


Courtesy: ISRO

The pics from the TMC would be even better.

Cheers!

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There seems to be some misinfo here. The article mentions a velocity of 1.5 km a second. The Hindu says 1.6 km a minute. What the...?

Originally posted by mikesingh
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There seems to be some misinfo here. The article mentions a velocity of 1.5 km a second. The Hindu says 1.6 km a minute. What the...?

The MIP has landing rockets. Free fall 1.5 kps, touchdown 1.6kpm? Dunno.

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Originally posted by mikesingh
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There seems to be some misinfo here. The article mentions a velocity of 1.5 km a second. The Hindu says 1.6 km a minute. What the...?

It is 1.5 km/s, as far as i know. will check and confirm

Edited to add:

Chandrayaan project director Mylaswamy Annadurai explained to TOI on Friday that at about 8 pm on Friday, a command will be flashed to the MIP from Isro's telemetry, tracking and command network (Istrac) at Bangalore for it to detach from the orbiter. "The MIP will separate and with its three instruments, zoom towards the lunar south pole at a velocity of 1.5km per second," he said.

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Originally posted by Phage

Originally posted by mikesingh
reply to post by sentinel2107

 

There seems to be some misinfo here. The article mentions a velocity of 1.5 km a second. The Hindu says 1.6 km a minute. What the...?

The MIP has landing rockets. Free fall 1.5 kps, touchdown 1.6kpm.

Hmmm...With the firing of the MIPs retro rockets, the velocity would have been reduced to 1.6km per minute. That means 100kmh. But that article in the Telegraph says it crashed onto the surface at more than 5000km/h!!! That's crazy!

Cheers!

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Well at least it isn't NASA grey

Rockets on the impactor? would that not make it a lander? and it says 'smashed into pieces' in the diagram above

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The MIP disconnected from Chandrayaan at 100 km from the moon. As it fell, it kept sending information back to the satellite. Closer to the surface, rockets were fired to slow down its speed and soften impact. After 30 min of free fall, the MIP crash-landed on the south pole of moon.

Source
1.5kph=55mph, not exactly a landing.

There does seem to be a bit of confusion though.

Originally posted by zorgon
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Well at least it isn't NASA grey

Hey! I didn't think of that!! Jaxa sent whitish/grey photographs. So did NASA. But this one taken by the MIP looks like its brownish! What the....????

Image taken by HD camera on board JAXA Selene:


JAXA/NHK

Image taken by MIP:


ISRO

Either there was a brown filter on board the MIP or someone's throwing moondust into our eyes!!




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I assume that the poor resolution of the image was because the camera was going to smash into pieces anyway, they wouldn't bother fitting a HD cam.

Rather disappointing so far.

Hopefully the topographic stuff and HD cam on the main satellite prove more interesting.

Originally posted by mikesingh

Jaxa sent whitish/grey photographs. So did NASA. But this one taken by the MIP looks like its brownish! What the....????

Either there was a brown filter on board the MIP or someone's throwing moondust into our eyes!!

The moon IS brown, and this has of course been known to NASA for a long, long time...

Take a look at this Apollo 10 Photo Debriefing from June 1969. This is what the astronauts had to say about the color of the lunar surface:

The lunar maria were described as brown at high sun angles, and greyish brown near the terminator (the color reproduced in frame 5149 of landing site 2 was described to approximate the real color in the latter case). The crew reiterated their commentary which accompanied the TV transmission following TEI where they noted a color mottling of Mare Serenitatis, light brown and tan brown, as compared to the darker "chocolate brown'' color of Mare Tranquillitatis. The astronauts emphasized the lack of any green tints which are apparent in some of the color film.
The color of the lunar highlands was described as tan (frame 5079 approximates the real color). Deviations from the tan color are caused by mare material (brown), fresh impact craters (chalky white) and a number of "jet black" layers and blocks. It was indicated that the contrast between the white and black outcrops as produced on the black and white film is less than the real contrast; white is brighter and black is darker on the lunar surface than on the film.

ntrs.nasa.gov...

AS10-24-5079:


You can find the image here, where you also can see some other color images of the moon:
www.lpi.usra.edu...

From Apollo 11 on board voice transcription:

LMP: Whoo! Well, I have to vote with the 10 crew, that thing is brown.
CDR: Yes.
CMP: Sure is.
CDR: Looks tan to me.

In this document, page 66:
www.hq.nasa.gov...

Also take a look at this space suit, which was used on the Apollo 15 mission during EVAs. The dust and dirt is still on the suit, notice the color of the dirt on the knee:



Alan Bean, artist and one of the Apollo astronauts who walked on the moon, has an online gallery. Interesting to see that this is what the moon's surface looks like on his website:



www.alanbeangallery.com...

So, the question is: WHY has both NASA and JAXA tried to convince us that the moon is just a dull, gray piece of rock up there..? My personal theory is that real color images may reveal structures/artifacts/features that don't belong naturally on the moon's suface.

But hey, that's just me...







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Originally posted by ziggystar60
So, the question is: WHY has both NASA and JAXA tried to convince us that the moon is just a dull, gray piece of rock up there..? My personal theory is that real color images may reveal structures/artifacts/features that don't belong naturally on the moon's suface.

But hey, that's just me...

Hi ziggy! Where the devil have you been hiding? Long time no see!

That said, ( ) It's intriguing why those guys have been hiding the true color of the Moon? I don't think it could be for hiding artifacts. But then, why else?

Darn! :bnghd:

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Chadrayan has now entered its final orbit and has also crashlanded a probe on the moon's surface. It has also started transferring images of the moon back to earth.

For those who dont know there are 2 NASA instruments aboard Chandrayan !

Originally posted by mikesingh

Hi ziggy! Where the devil have you been hiding? Long time no see!

That said, (

) It's intriguing why those guys have been hiding the true color of the Moon? I don't think it could be for hiding artifacts. But then, why else?

Darn! :bnghd:

Hey, I haven't been hiding at all. It is YOU who has been hiding!

But seriously, WHY should NASA (and JAXA) hide the true color of the moon? They didn't hide it good enough, though, I found out about it just a couple of weeks after I started looking at the Apollo images.

It is very easy to see that the colors on the astronaut's suits (especially their boots and gloves) are not quite right in the images taken on the moon's surface. If you adjust the colors so that the suits look right, well... Suddenly the surface looks brown! And then there is the good old NASA documents and transcripts...

So, are NASA removing the real, brown color just to hide more rocks, boulders and perfectly natural geological features? That doesn't make sense at all, at least not to me. And my experience in life is that "small" lies almost always has bigger lies behind them.

I still believe that there are things up there on our moon that we are not supposed to know about. Just what they are, I don't know. But there is SOMETHING there.

Originally posted by sunny_2008ny
For those who dont know there are 2 NASA instruments aboard Chandrayan !

Yep! And they got a FREE ride too! Hmmm...Now is there something more than meets the eye here?

I love conspiracies!!

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Mike,
This says impact probe is on the moon!
www.ufoblogger.blogspot.com...
Of course NASA devices are aboard..ho ho

BP