US Domestic Military Deployments.

Posse Comitatus Act just means that US military will not be used for law enforcement duties.

Here are some other quotes, for you all to take into consideration and use. They go along well with my signature.



"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."
Thomas Jefferson

"Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem."
Ronald Reagan

"I heartily accept the motto, "That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe, "That government is best which governs not at all"; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have. "
Henry David Thoreau

"The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself... Almost inevitably, he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, and intolerable. "
H.L. Mencken

Source

Yes, something is deffinately brewing... but what?
In one comment, it was stated that The new President (Obama) will need the communities to back him" in the next thing the Gov does that will seem to be wrong at the time... hmmm, something is deffinately cooking that America will Hate!! but what??

I think it might be giving up guns for the American public. this would make the most sense because without guns, people can fight. it is the first step in NWO!!!!!!

Everytime this comes up, it eventually is shut down with facts, people stop arguing it because they know they're wrong, and the thread dies. Then another one comes up with the same exact content.

The unit is not deployed. Get your facts straight. They're on stand-by in case of natural disasters and #- every year units 'deploy' to fight fires and # in Northern Cali and such. This year, they've just already decided what unit it will be. That's the only difference.

You'd have thought the huge nothing that happened on Oct 1st would have embarrassed you guys into silence, but no such luck.

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Everytime this comes up, it eventually is shut down with facts, people stop arguing it because they know they're wrong, and the thread dies. Then another one comes up with the same exact content.

As this is only a recent development,what threads are you talking about?
And what facts?

Its a fact that the US are going to have a domestic army.
Its a fact that it will become permanent.

They're on stand-by in case of natural disasters and #- every year units 'deploy' to fight fires and # in Northern Cali and such.

Which they have been able to do without having to have a permanently based domestic force.

For such action there has to be plenty of just cause.
The recent natural disasters became a whole lot worse than they needed to because of the governments actions.Example:how many times have they been told that the levies are not big enough and not long enough to combat major flooding??

And civil unrest keeps being mentioned.
How much civil unrest has there been in the last few years to warrant a permanent domestic army??

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Thanks for the quotes.Here's some i like.

Aesop.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office.

Barry Goldwater.

Those who seek absolute power,even though they seek it to do what they regard as good,are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth.And let me remind you,they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies.Absolute power does corrupt,and those who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

The only sure bulwark of continuing liberty is a government strong enough to protect the interests of the people, and a people strong enough and well enough informed to maintain its sovereign control over the government.

Karl Marx.

The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them.

Voltaire.

It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.

Mark Twain.

The government is merely a servant -- merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a patriot and who isn't. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them.

Suppose your were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.

Thomas Jefferson.

No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another

Charley Reese.

Here's your enemy for this week, the government says. And some gullible Americans click their heels and salute -- often without knowing who or even where the enemy of the week is.

Originally posted by jakyll
reply to post by SuperViking

 

Everytime this comes up, it eventually is shut down with facts, people stop arguing it because they know they're wrong, and the thread dies. Then another one comes up with the same exact content.

As this is only a recent development,what threads are you talking about?

The two or three other threads about 'homeland tours' starting on October 1st.

And what facts?

The fact that this unit is right now in Fort Stewart, GA, just like they always have been when not deployed (which they're not). Like how they're living at home, going out to the movies, enjoying weekends off, just like virtually every other unit at home now. Those facts.

Its a fact that the US are going to have a domestic army.
Its a fact that it will become permanent.

It's been like that since, oh World War 2, get with the times.

They're on stand-by in case of natural disasters and #- every year units 'deploy' to fight fires and # in Northern Cali and such.

Which they have been able to do without having to have a permanently based domestic force.

There's always been a a domestic force in the states. Where do you think troops go when they come back from Iraq? The Midway Islands?

reply to post by SuperViking

The two or three other threads about 'homeland tours' starting on October 1st.

Ah,Thought you were talking about much older threads.

There's always been a a domestic force in the states. Where do you think troops go when they come back from Iraq? The Midway Islands?

You are misunderstanding what domestic military deployment means.
Probably deliberately.


Also.

"Using the military for law enforcement goes against one of the founding tenets of our democracy."

www.salon.com...

LOL, I know exactly what deployment means, I've been deployed several times. Sitting at home with your family and basically working 9-5 (excluding working out in the morning) is not a deployment, even if you've already been pegged as the unit that is going to have to respond to a forest fire.

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Look,its not rocket science.

The armed forces can be deployed to anywhere in the world.
A domestic army is for domestic problems only.

The units involved in this are being retrained to deal with natural disasters and civil unrest.They will deployed 24/7 permanently on US soil only.They will not be deployed anywhere else in the world.

The same does for the German army units who will be part of their domestic army.They too,will be deployed on home soil only.

That is not how it has always been in the US.If it had then no one would be arguing that it is going against the Constitution.They would accept it.






[edit on 25-10-2008 by jakyll]

OMG, it is true... I just called Northern Command, they confirmed it.

U.S. Northern Command Public Affairs
250 Vandenberg, Suite B016
Peterson AFB CO 80914-3808
719-554-6889
DSN prefix 692

Media Relations

719-554-6889/DSN 692
Community Relations
719-554-3714/DSN 692


Peterson AFB Operator, call 719-556-7321

Call this number and ask them about the Brigade that was deployed on Oct 1st.

They will tell you the brigade has been deployed on the mainland and the "crowd control package" is going to Iraq/Afghanistan.

The brigade is not the "Crowd Control package".... which is actually just equipment (pepper spray, tazers, microwave ADS systems etc).

To clarify; The "crowd control package" is going to the Warzone.

The Brigade was deployed in the US on Oct 1st.

The "Crowd control package" is going to Iraq where it is needed.


The Posse commitatus Act has been brazenly violated. It is so hard to believe this has happened - It is not surprising so many are still in denial about it or just can't fathom such a thing ever occurring.

But is did happen. It happened on Oct 1st 2008.

I hope the soldiers in this brigade aren't handpicked because they said they had no problem doing such a thing.... unfortunately that is probably the case.

(*They picked the 'yes' box when asked if they would have any problems doing a certain something if ordered....)



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Domestic Deployments eh?

Well... Doesnt suprise me in the least.

World Capitalism is in the drain. So they want to protect it...

Which basically mean's anyone willing to fight it is going to be taken down.

SuperViking, the Military in a sense have allways been used domestically to help in case of natural disasters and the like. Or am I reading the potential usage of the National Guard wrong?

What is worrying imho is that at this point in history, a regular army combat unit is specifically designated to 'safeguard' the US heartland.

A unit that has seen a year and a half of combat.

I have heard many testimonials from National Guards who where deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, as well, is that not against the statutes of the National Guards or something? I thought they where only supposed to be deployed domestically ?

Would it not make more sense to keep the combat unit on the front, and the guards at home? Unless the US is suspected to become a front sometime in the future, neh ?

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Greetings jakyll........Interesting signature....standby you will be witnessing some of the most spectactular theater of your life....and if your drawers arn't to lumpy you might find your self on your knees...The deployment of the military in country is worthy of dutifull scrutinization,for one it is a blatant contitutional violation...

Who truly believes there will a civil war ?

Who truly believes it when they've logged out of conspiracy forums, that is ?

Who do you know who'll risk their life, their future, their family, their liberty .. to take arms against the government ?

How many people like that do you know ? Not just those who TALK about it, but who would actually do it ?

Would YOU do it ?

So there you are. Lots of talk, but it won't happen.

It's one thing to talk, another to do

Watch some video of the Iraqi people, then ask yourself if you fancy being shot down like a dog in the street.

Not a movie. The real thing. In movies, the hero dodges bullets and even after he's been hit .. he lives.

In real life, you're dead. That's it.

No, people aren't going to participate in civil war. They'll talk it up all day long. And they'll fantasise about what they'll do, blah blah. But in reality, they'll be inside with the doors closed and the tv on .. and hoping others will fight this civil war for them.

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LOL You're Projecting

AND you can see the future!

You're Priceless.

here's something to chew on...


And THESE wont be used for anything domestic either, I suppose?

bah- This country sucks space vacuum. I want out.

theodorej

Interesting signature

Welcome,and thanks.lol.

The deployment of the military in country is worthy of dutifull scrutinization,for one it is a blatant contitutional violation...

Aye,and many don't even seem to realize this.
Add to the fact the new rules on implementing martial law and we have a very interesting (and worrying) state indeed.






Dock6

Who do you know who'll risk their life, their future, their family, their liberty .. to take arms against the government ?

I have family that live in the US and they most definatly would.

So there you are. Lots of talk, but it won't happen.

Talk has a habit of turning into action.
The American Civil War has its roots in the abolition of slavery.Up til about 1830,people talked.From 1830 onwards there were rebellions,protests and violence.In 1861 war broke out.





wylekat

From your link.

"What we have here are the beginnings of something designed to enable robots to hunt down humans like a pack of dogs.

Thats just disturbing.
Can you say,Terminator.





[edit on 25-10-2008 by jakyll]

With all of the racially charged rhetoric flying around the media and the presidential campaigns, I fear that the PTB are trying to turn this ‘culture war’ we’ve been hearing about for 20 yrs into a shooting war. A lot of people are waking up to how our countries are controlled from behind the scenes. If the bankster bailout didn’t make it obvious, nothing will. The PTB need to get us worrying about each other so we’ll take our eyes off of them. They could do this by stealing the election for McCain, or by taking out Obama after he wins. All of the legal pieces, and now the military pieces are in place for a martial law scenario. I’m hoping they continue the incrementalism approach, but it’s looking more and more like the big event path may be coming up.

I started a thread called Gulf War Syndrome Released on our streets.. Maybe you guys should take a look at what the military people themselves are saying about the goings on. The first 2 posts have alot of links to items of interest to everyone exploring this deployment.

edit:
Duhh guess the link would help aye:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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