Sun's protective 'bubble' is shrinking - NASA will launch mission to study

you're saying that what we focus our intention on happens, and that is why there is so much disorder and chaos to what is happening these days, maybe the government payed Goodchild to give an end of days scare so that it actually turns out to be true because people get scared. Maybe the government is purposely making this economic scare because it will start to happen when people focus there intentions on it. Maybe the end of days will come on 12.21.12 because people are so bent on it.

m-state metals anyone?

[edit on 21-10-2008 by PinealGlandThoth]

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No I'm not saying that at all. What I believe is that the fate of this world is already written, and many who know what's coming have validation by observing the changes in the sun, moon, and stars.

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You didn't reply to my messages, maybe you missed them.

Can you post the passages in the Bible you are referring to?

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Your gonna make me work aren't you LL...Well the passages are in Revelation chapter 16: verse 8 to be specific.


REVELATION CHAPTER 16 KJV 1611

1.And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.

2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

4
And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.

5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.

6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.

8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.

9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

Not a pretty sight, but again those who have prepared their hearts will miss this according to the bible which I believe is 100% truth.


[edit on 21-10-2008 by TH3ON3]

Originally posted by cheeser
please provide primary source literature from a scientific journal about the threads allegation, suns heliosphere shrinking by 50%.

what? you cant find it?

Observations of solar wind from both large polar coronal holes (PCHs) during Ulysses' third orbit showed that the fast solar wind was slightly slower, significantly less dense, cooler, and had less mass and momentum flux than during the previous solar minimum (first) orbit. In addition, while much more variable, measurements in the slower, in-ecliptic wind match quantitatively with Ulysses and show essentially identical trends. Thus, these combined observations indicate significant, long-term variations in solar wind output from the entire Sun. The significant, long-term trend to lower dynamic pressures means that the heliosphere has been shrinking and the heliopause must be moving inward toward the Voyager spacecraft. In addition, our observations suggest a significant and global reduction in the mass and energy fed in below the sonic point in the corona. The lower supply of mass and energy may result naturally from a reduction of open magnetic flux during this period.

www.agu.org...

DENY IGNORANCE

I'm glad you asked for the specific verse LL because it reminded me of a picture I think someone posted several months back of what looks like a huge mothership right beside the sun with a beam flowing out from it like it is either getting something from the sun or doing something to it.

Anyone have the specifics of those pictures. Would be great to post it to show just how big those ships are.

Found it...SOHO Sun telescope captured UFOs at war

[edit on 22-10-2008 by TH3ON3]

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So in other words, if the heliosphere deminishment was to couple with a polarshift or momentarily diminished electromagnetic shield around Earth, we'd pretty much be sucking in whatever radiation that might come our way?

Things are really starting to tie in together from reading other threads. This one in particular about planet X and Nibiru.

So how could 1/3 of the light from the Sun, Moon and Stars be turned to darkness and stars fall from heaven as it describes in Revelation 6 Verses 12-14

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

Well if Nibiru and Planet X really are heading into our neck of the woods as the former thread suggests would it not disrupt just about every known law of space. I mean it would cause chaos between the planets and our sun, and by the sheer placement could block out the light from the Sun and Moon and cause the stars to be displaced also.

**Edit to add the stars falling from Heaven would be debris from likely collisions and proly not the actual stars. Again the prophet was putting down what he could only equate it to with the debris coming in to the atmosphere looking like many stars "falling" from the heavens.**

It would also cause huge earthquakes for those planets to come into our solar system.

Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction, and if this is the case it makes perfect sense for the Bible to state it like that.

[edit on 22-10-2008 by TH3ON3]

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first of all i have yet to see proof of planet x and second of all the atmosphere is fine. the atmoshpere has survived over hundreds of millions of years. the protective bubble is difficult to study. it is caused by the magnitism of the earth spinning.

are you trying to say that the earth is spinning slowert.

and i would sooner bealive a word out of paris hiltions mouth then i would the bible.

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Well thank you...You reassured me because I was starting to get really scared by my own posts.

Not that I know anything, but perhaps the solar system is traveling through a more "potent" part of the galaxy ie there is stronger interstellar radiation that the heliosphere is trying to "push back" which would make it look like the sphere is weakening when it is just being stressed more and shrinking due to outside forces.

**duplicate post**

[edit on 22-10-2008 by Lucid Lunacy]

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Well that is basically the idea behind the whole 'galactic alignment'.

From what I gather essentially the core of our galaxy is emitting a stream of gas, plasma and dust, subsequently the more aligned our Sun is to the stream the more it's affected. I don't know if this has any merit or not.

Time to switch the brains on folks instead of "going off on one". There is no protective bubble, never has been. There is a region of space outside our solar system where the particles coming from the sun match the density of the particles coming into our solar system. Now a little bit of math (surface are of a sphere, radius etc etc) and you realise that the density of particles from the sun around the earth are orders of magnitude larger and travelling far faster than the density of particles streaming in from outside the solar system.

The sun is far far more dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only issue is for probes exiting our solar system which will recieve less of a push from our sun and more resistance from outside earlier in their mission as they merrily travel away from us.....possibly!

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Actually, we would probably die from cosmic radiation first if you want to get technical... It is a "protective layer" mainly because it protects our solar system from cosmic radiation coming from interstellar space. What we don't know is how it really works or what really causes it (Hence, what effect it will really have for us here on earth).

Here are some interesting related stories to the degradation of the heliosphere.

The silent Sun’s uncertain course

This year’s solar silence has surprised space physicists, who were expecting the Sun to have moved away from the minimum point of the 11-year solar cycle by now. “To see such a significant and consistent long-term reduction in the solar wind output is really remarkable,” says David McComas, a senior scientist on the Ulysses solar satellite mission, a joint project of the European and US space agencies.

Back on Earth, the Sun’s inactivity ought to represent good news for the companies that operate satellites, run power grids or make terrestrial radio systems, which are all vulnerable to damage and disruption from solar storms. In one interpretation of its long-term implications, however, the effects could be far from benign.

Experts are reluctant to predict the consequences for Earth and its inhabitants because there are so many complex interactions between the Sun’s output, the planet’s atmosphere and magnetic field, and cosmic radiation from outer space. Some climatologists say that, over a period of decades, a quieter Sun means a cooler Earth, although the relationship between solar activity and climate is particularly controversial.

One certain effect of a quiet Sun is that more high-energy cosmic rays from elsewhere in the universe can beat their way through the weakened solar wind and reach Earth. Although these cosmic rays do not arrive in a sudden eruption, like a solar storm, their steady cumulative impact may shorten the lifetime of satellites.

This quiet period would not be a good time to launch a manned space mission beyond Earth orbit, to the Moon or Mars, adds Prof Crooker. Astronauts would face the harmful impact of increased cosmic radiation, which would outweigh the reduced likelihood of solar storms. Another effect of reduced solar activity is a cooling and thinning of the upper atmosphere. This too has an upside and a downside: the reduced drag will enable both satellites and space junk to stay aloft for longer.

Is life on our planet facing another mass extinction?

This story talks about how last time this happened, about 250 million years ago, there was a mass extinction.

The reason for the shrinking is currently unknown, but it is believed that the heliosphere can be affected by other forces within our galaxy. This is a point I have raised in the past and made mention of it in my book. It is my belief that our solar system passes through an area in our galaxy that affects the Sun and all the planets in our system (hence the climatic changes we are, or have, experienced)

Our Solar System orbits our galaxy once every 250 million years (approximately) and it is interesting that a mass extinction occurred the last time this happened (just before the dinosaurs appeared). Is it possible that we are heading for a repeat of this event?

NASA's Ibex Launches for Examination of Sun's Weakening Shield

Oct. 19 (Bloomberg) -- NASA launched its Interstellar Boundary Explorer, or Ibex, into orbit today for an examination of the solar winds that shield the Earth from harmful cosmic rays.

Ibex will give scientists a better understanding of how the solar wind -- made of magnetically charged particles -- interacts with the larger galaxy. The winds have fallen to the weakest level in half a century.

Global Warming and Predictions of an Impending Ice Age - Part 1

The skeptics are squawking again, their blogs achatter with talk about solar variability and sunspots. According to them, anybody who is anybody in climate science now knows the sun is to blame for global warming. Even the New York Times recently wrote about the low level of solar activity this year and the possibility of a coming ice age. Can any of this be true?

-ChriS

[edit on 22-10-2008 by BlasteR]

Originally posted by InterestedObserver
Uhhh.... what? Why haven't we heard of this sooner? I really do hope that it's just a natural cycle and not a sign that the heliosphere will begin to completely break up. If it decreased 25% in the past 50 years and it continues to do so, we'll be toasting around... hmm... 2060? Wonderful.

According to the OP you would have read it sooner IF you would have the Bible, you lazy bum ;-)

Sorry, but I have a problem with the "I told you so" threads.
Scientific data on the sun are of course always welcome.

[edit on 22-10-2008 by Pjotr]

the sun has a protective bubble? i must admit it's the first time i have ever heard of the sun having a protective bubble, it was never mention during my learning years and ive never come across it during reading and searching for information on the solar system and universe.

i knew the earth has a protective bubble, which protects against effects of the sun but ive never heard of the sun having a protective bubble.

this is new to me, i better get researching the information.

Originally posted by TH3ON3

Originally posted by InterestedObserver
Could the latest decline coincide with the decreased period of solar activity as of late?

I don't know. It is a very strange relationship between the sun and the heliosphere. I know something is definitely changing, and we see it in the very quiet sun spot activity being reported during a supposed solar maximum activity period.

As for equating it to the end times, that is what it says in the Bible. I am quoting in the correct context.

Another fascinating passage concerning the end times in the Bible is where it says knowledge will greatly increase and the "chariots" (cars) will jostle (drive) back and forth.

The prophet was seeing cars, but could only compare it to what he currently knew to be similar...thus the chariot description.

how do you know he was seeing cars? if he said horseless chariots or something like that i'd understand and see how it could apply to cars. but he said chariots, they had chariots around his time. how do you know he saw cars as oppose to chariots? nobody knows, the vision was his nobody elses. so nobody knows.

all people can do and some do, is try to make his words fit what THEY thought he meant or what they want it to mean.

edit: actually if he only mentioned 'chariot' with no mention of any missing or changing features, this shows a lack of vision, he visioned the end times to be in a period very simular to his own time and surroundings, because he could'nt vision anything different to what was already around him. he saw technology to be exactly the same as what exsisted in HIS time period. therefore a lack of vision of the future.

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I would recommend the research of Nassim Harameinand the words of Neil Young's After the Gold Rush for a refreshing view on the topic of the sun and it activity with relation to the Earth

I was lyin' in a burned out basement
With a full moon in my eyes
I was hopin' for a replacement
When the sun burst through the skies
There was a band playin' in my head
And I felt like getting high
Thinkin' about what a friend had said,
I was hopin' it was a lie
Thinkin' about what a friend had said,
I was hopin' it was a lie

Well, I dreamed I saw the silver spaceships flying
In the yellow haze of the sun
There were children crying and colors flying
All around the chosen ones
All in a dream, all in a dream
The loading had begun
Flyin' mother nature's silver seed
To a new home in the sun
Flyin' mother nature's silver seed
To a new home in the sun