Where I'll Spend Situation-X

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This is my place of choice for an "end of the world" type scenario. I shot this video yesterday, there was much more but I had to edit quite a bit out of the video to meet YouTube guidelines and to protect the location of the hike.

If a person wants to REALLY get prepared for such an event, it is my opinion that they would be well served to pick a place such as this and learn to live off of that land. This area, for instance, has an absolute ABUNDANCE of natural resources at a person's disposal. Not only that, but it is so far removed from what people would normally consider "civilization" that it is a perfect refuge.

Does anybody else have any plans that DON'T involve simply stockpiling food at their house?

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I have no plans, just a wish list. Problem is in U.K. you're never really more than 20 miles downwind of someone's flatulence.

I have a couple of areas I'd like to bolt for, if I had the transport to get me there. I'm certain however the most isolated areas are home to military installations. To the best of my knowledge the East is flat, agriculturalised, and riddled with R.A.F. bases (a throwback to WWII). The South East is ridiculously populated, as is the swath from Liverpool in the North West through Manchester and Sheffield to Doncaster in the East. That leaves Wales, Scotland and a few National Parks.

Anyone have any ideas?

I have my spot but wouldn't divulge it to anyone I didn't know extremely well.

One thing I would ask JAY in AR...
PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE give some filming tips to people zooming in on distant objects with a digital cam.
If only we could get UFO vids with that clarity and steadiness.

Very nice spot too.Keep it closely guarded.

I will give a word of warning to any nice boat owners close to my spot...It won't be there after a safe amount of time has passed after a sit-x

Part two of my escape plan involves a 360 degree sea view for quite a while.

Originally posted by Nirgal
I have no plans, just a wish list. Problem is in U.K. you're never really more than 20 miles downwind of someone's flatulence.

I have a couple of areas I'd like to bolt for, if I had the transport to get me there. I'm certain however the most isolated areas are home to military installations. To the best of my knowledge the East is flat, agriculturalised, and riddled with R.A.F. bases (a throwback to WWII). The South East is ridiculously populated, as is the swath from Liverpool in the North West through Manchester and Sheffield to Doncaster in the East. That leaves Wales, Scotland and a few National Parks.

Anyone have any ideas?

Yup the north east, start from Wensleydale and work north, Tees, Wear, Tyne dales all the way in as far as Alston or Brough, 99% of Northumberland is empty is is the beautiful Eden valley in Cumbria. it leaves you with bug out routes along both coasts and up through the borders into the socialist democratic state of Scotland

My refruge will be a national park. Of course, that would only be if the situation was dire. Last resort type of situation. Learn to live off of the land and you'll be fine.

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HAHA! Actually, getting that shot was simple enough. I laid down on the trail and steadied my camera on my backpack.

You know though, I don't like youtube very much. I shot that in what was supposed to be high definition quality and thus, I couldn't put much of the vid on YouTube. Anyhow, when I finally got it loaded up, the quality was crappy anyway. The video looks magnificent on my telivision set, but not on the internet. Oh well.

PS: This area IS closely guarded, too. Anyone ever hear of those Hillbilly's and their shotguns?


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This is a pic of a section of my 'local forest' you could say.
It's in one of the bigger expanses of UK's 'wild land' but you see the problem..That pic is about 7km wide..and its dissected into about 3-400m sections by tracks/roads...

The idea of heading into an isolated forest and setting up camp really appeals.You guys have it so lucky when it comes to open land.

Everywhere in UK is owned by somebody,somewhere who is usually grumpy,has a large dog called Satan..and is suspiciously 'fond' of their first cousin.

What would you reckon the best minimum distance you would have to be from major cities or other 'targets of value' to have a good chance of not being swamped by suburban hordes?

We have lots of folks around here that are fond of their cousins too, I'm afraid. Having never been to UK, I guess I was taking for granted the fact that I live in an area with lots of isolated wilderness. For that I guess I'm blessed. Hell, in this area of the world, the barter system has never vanished. We have local radio shows that are dedicated solely to people wanting to barter goods. Several of them, in fact.

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I did a recce of the Dalby forest in N.Yorkshire...baeutifully wild, but too damn close to RAF Boulmer, and in particular, Fylingdales (they may as well paint a huge sign visible from 20,000ft saying 'drop ordnance here' and a huge pointy arrow at that place)

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I couldn't speculate on that. However, the location of that video I shot is very far removed from a "major" city. It is a solid four hour drive to the nearest large city and it isn't a major city. The nearest one of those would be more like an eight hour drive.

I'm sure though, that even my area would be sorta' swamped with people, but that would be alright, a small community would make life a little easier until the situation blew over.

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Assuming civil breakdown and loss of 'motoring privileges' ie oil/petrol. I would say any where that is a day's walk away.

Fortunately,the age of the playstation had restricted the masses from moving more than a few hours walk away from GTA 4..and the idea of suffering withdrawal symptoms from a whole NIGHT away from TV!!!

Boy I'm gonna get flamed for that.

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Originally posted by citizen smith they may as well paint a huge sign visible from 20,000ft saying 'drop ordnance here' and a huge pointy arrow at that place)

Kinda like the IR heat signature from my freshly shaved head would in Kielder .

Problem there too is the prevailing wind direction if Newcastle was to get Nuked.
Dunno why it would though..It's a spiffing place.

I have to believe that if anything overly bad WERE to happen, there probably wouldn't be too many nukes used. Nuclear weapons are bad, bad news. They'll make whatever region they were used on uninhabitable for quite some time. Neh, I think they would find other means to achieve their end, as they seem to be doing now with the crippling of the financial systems.

I see this possibly leading to widespread revolt. Martial law. Totalitarian control.

If the above scenario does play out, I believe a person would be best suited to just ride out the storm off grid in the wilderness.

Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
I see this possibly leading to widespread revolt. Martial law. Totalitarian control.

I agree.It's the most likely,apart from a natural disaster.

The days of scaring us with nuke war is passed I reckon.There are much more efficient,vile ways of destroying people without damaging property.

Again,keeping groups small and non-threatening is the way to go.
You don't need much in the way of defences if you're far enough out of touch.

Drawing attention with stockpiling isn't recommended ..in this neighbourhood anyway.

Once the local scummies run out of ciggies and glue they'll be looking for other ways to release their frustration...and I'm too pretty.

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Yeah, by the time it gets that far, I won't be here for people to steal my cigarettes.
The day that the grocery store closes because they don't have anything on the shelves is the day I head out towards the trail and a person would be best suited not to try and stop me from getting there.

I'll stick by the saying.. 3 square meals and a goodnight's sleep away from chaos.

Once it becomes unprofitable to ship food and consumables..three days till empty shelves.That'll be pretty much your last warning call.

After that you better be ready to move if you haven't already gone.

I think this weeks FTSE and DOW will be interesting.If oil keeps dropping in value,who's going to move the stuff?
Good news for prices at the pumps until distributors look for something more profitable.

I've pretty much stopped following the collapse. I know its coming, as does everyone else. I have decided to stop feeding the panic by just waiting to see what happens and when. My hopes are that someone will step to the plate in the bottom of the ninth, but I'm not counting on that. I'm making mental preparations in the mean time and I believe a lot more people would be wise to do the same. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

Thanks for the responses guys.

Yup, it's definitely the North for me (should I ever manage to "Escape from London"). I'm not averse to getting on my bike, as one of our illustrious politicians suggested once.

Problem is of course, you've considered areas such as the one mentioned, I'm thinking about it. That must mean there are plenty of others that have considered it too. It's not going to be as secluded as we hoped.

I'm not so sure that ANY place will be as secluded as anyone hoped for if the worst WERE to happen. But that would become an asset to you in the worst case, so long as you were isolated enough not to cause widespread attention to your locale.

If the worst were to happen and I made it to my refuge, I would hope there were like-minded people already there.