Window of Opportunity

Originally posted by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by Annee
You didn't buy anything - it is given to you as a gift.

The gift is in the unwrapping.

Mwaaaaah! I was suckered totally! In that case it's the coal in my Christmas stocking. I suppose then the gift is somehow squeezing it into a diamond but I ain't Superman. Yeah, heat, pressure, and time. That sounds about right.

[edit on 9/20/2009 by EnlightenUp]

Loved your responses by the way. Some people take this stuff way too seriously.

I mean - I do take it seriously - - but I enjoy a quick wit and good laugh.

I just have to say that this material is VERY thought provoking!!

Only today did I stumble upon this thread.. but I've read as much as possible. Its one of the best threads on here (regardless if he/she/they are genuine or not)..

If only for the **IDEA** it leaves you with..

Really interesting exchange!!

- Mea

Originally posted by reassor
reply to post by Mind1universe

 

thatys a new age mumbo jumbo in MY OPINION. im in no way bashing you

i belive in soul and some kind of entity thats above us all but come on lucifer?

i belive they distorted holy scriptures of christianity and not only it for thier purpouse

but this guy and 1 befor him come on. he even says he has to go to rome

It is not new age mumbo jumbo.
Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said Lucifer is above all. You did.

I see you have nothing to contribute or anything of value to add but that is you.

Originally posted by reassor
reply to post by Mind1universe

 

thatys a new age mumbo jumbo in MY OPINION. im in no way bashing you

i belive in soul and some kind of entity thats above us all but come on lucifer?

i belive they distorted holy scriptures of christianity and not only it for thier purpouse

but this guy and 1 befor him come on. he even says he has to go to rome

It is not new age mumbo jumbo.
Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said Lucifer is above all. You did.

I see you have nothing to contribute or anything of value to add but that is you.

reply to post by Mind1universe



Hello again!

I do understand where you are coming from and what you say, and I once walked that way of thinking as well.

The agenda is a natural conflict embedded within the makeup and template of this dimension, but its not a decisions before you incarnate that you come to bring the needed negative opportunities to others. If you make a choice of negative path, you will reap what you sow. Conflicts and opportunities arise just fine without people thinking they are serving a better good by walking the negative path.

I have studied all of this, talked with some of the best people there is to talk to about this belief....but I have been shown that there a being chooses that negative path because they are not ready to move forward.

There is a difference....your choices, your every word, you will stand up for one day. When you see yourself through your divine eye after death....you will see why you decided to take the negative path. It isnt for others, its for yourself. If you are on your way to walking the narrow path, you would not choose the negative path of being more for self then for others.

The world was made to have catalyst. The ones thinking they were put here to help bring these catalyst through service to self are in denial of their truest nature, which is positive. At the core of every being is positive light, pure and Divine....if they are not walking this path in their life, this is their own mark they are not ready to move forward. Its just another way to avoid moving forward. Jews had their reasons to not listen....now groups today have their reasons to not do the same. There are not going to be many ready to let go of the Earthly ideas and bodies. Nothing of Earth can be taken beyond here. This is the teaching of the offering of the Earthly body back to where it came....even the blood which many dont want to let go of.

The spiritual law of reaping what you sow has been used and abused into blood sacrifices and literal understanding. It is spiritual and it is blinding the world to think they dont have to stand for what they do. Its not God you will stand to, its your self, their your higher self, through your divine eye.

This is why there is reincarnation. So many think they can either pass the buck of that they wont have to stand to their wrongs (which is the new thought now days).

I studied that way for a couple years, ya know, as long as your more service to others then yourself you are good to go. But all I can tell you is I have most defiantly been shown different and I have been shown that I will have to stand up for what I do, say....and every one in my life will stand up for or against me. Its not like a judgment from anyone outside of the self.....but the higher self and lower self that come together in the divine eye.

Lucifer....light bringer....Jesus....light saver...both called morning stars ect....the idea is embedded throughout history in all beliefs, different names....the template of this thought was born before it was even thought because it is in the template of this place to do just that for us.

My best to you
LV

reply to post by Veritas Lux Mea


Have you read the Law Of One?

Just curious...if you enjoyed this thread I think you would get much more out of the Law of One. I dont follow it anymore but I studied it deeply for some time. Most interesting stuff!

reply to post by LeoVirgo

I applaud your patience to give your views on this. I also have much understanding in your own questioning of morality and existence. I can see how your curiosity has been provoked. One who uses his mind goes far. One who uses his soul goes beyond.

I think this is the part your missing in all of this on a pure level. You don't need to study this. You don't need to ask people this. You don't need to read books at all. Knowing is ""nooooing". It's means you know all and "all no all"

Remembering who you are, is where you reconnect with the higher power. Every being on this planet as is this universe is connected to pure light and divine. We know that. All the negative entities know that. It will be ok in the end. Do not fear this world and those around you. Do not doubt what this world has shown you. Do not doubt that the angels watching you. Do not doubt existence, as you are everything that is.


Evil is not straightforward as the human mind keeps perceiving it to be.. Humans don't understand what is evil. Evil is means free choice to do as you choose to service the self. Spell Evil backwards and you get live.. Your living.

Your soul cannot die. No matter what hurts you or what negativity you pass to others. They will not die and they will not dissapear. In other words if there was no evil, there would be no earth, there would be no evolution, there would be no journey for you and I as individuals. We wouldn't even be here having this conversation either. There would be no experience as you are to the one. This is a journey of free will.

My soul group and the higher angels have brought you free will to experience polarity. The truth is you are all immortal, but you came here to experience a mortal life with a basic mind and self. For this path was a golden opportunity to experience you as you are in all ways as a journey to the higher power. Please try and stop polarising beings that are negative and positive and beings are choosing a negative path because they are evil. This is far from the case. If they are beings on this world that are overtly satanic and do sacrificing rituals that would seem horrific to any compassionate soul, still love them. They choosed their own path. In the end all souls in this universe will go home eventually. The universe is not some plot of existence that is shown section by section, game by game so the human mind can decipher. This universe cannot be understood by the human mind I'm afraid.


The truth is, this universe is a living celestial being that wants' to experience itself in all ways. Please try and look at the bigger picture and realise just how important negative entities are to the universe as well as the positive side. They are many beings on this world choose to do evil not for themselves but give you challenges to reach the light.


They are beings who made the decision before coming to this world to play the bad gay, to give you this reality of evolution between light and dark.


Trust in the universe and love your neighbour in all ways. Do not judge if you do not want to be judged. Love your enemies as they push more to the light as they know your weaknesses better than your friends. Most importantly trust in your self. Fear not.




[edit on 22-9-2009 by Mind1universe]

reply to post by LeoVirgo


I enjoy your posts.

Just a bit of discrepancy on "service to others".

Service to Self - - must come first. It is necessary to evolve to a level of understanding before you can truly understand "service to others" - (I am not saying one should not help others).

You are "here" for YOU. You are "here" to evolve your own consciousness. Its important to understand EVERY Thought is an action. Once you "get it" - - understanding you are your thoughts - - and have evolved to understand Staying In the Positive - (spiritual self love). Then you can truly radiate out encompassing ALL with Love/Positive energy from self as One with the Creator.

I know it sounds contradictory - that you can't be "self" and One with the Creator. Like a drop of water dropped into a pond. It makes its own ripple - but is of the pond. We are all ripples in the same pond.

reply to post by Hidden-Hand


Why is your family anymore important than mine?????

Originally posted by Starseed32
reply to post by Hidden-Hand

 

Why is your family anymore important than mine?????

Why is anyone more important than another?

Why are you giving power to someone else??????

HH - posted his message - then left - as he announced.

[edit on 22-9-2009 by Annee]

Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by Veritas Lux Mea

 

Have you read the Law Of One?

Just curious...if you enjoyed this thread I think you would get much more out of the Law of One. I dont follow it anymore but I studied it deeply for some time. Most interesting stuff!

I think they compliment each other - requiring the reader to consider all possibilities. I don't find one more right/wrong then the other. Anyone who takes any "presentation" as Absolute - - is an unawakened sheep.

Interpretation/perspective must come from one's own consciousness - - not from someone else's printed words. You can usually tell in these discussions those who have read too many books.

Just curious - if you no longer follow the Law of One - - what do you follow.

reply to post by Annee


Not giving power.....just a statement......or a statement question. Do you really think I would want to know why his family is more important than mine???? That would be a question to you. Now take the power!

Originally posted by Starseed32
reply to post by Annee

 

Not giving power.....just a statement......or a statement question. Do you really think I would want to know why his family is more important than mine???? That would be a question to you. Now take the power!

You put the thought out there.

Energy does not interpret your non-meaning.

Originally posted by LeoVirgo
Have you read the Law Of One?

Just curious...if you enjoyed this thread I think you would get much more out of the Law of One. I dont follow it anymore but I studied it deeply for some time. Most interesting stuff!

No, I haven't.. I'll look it up and check it out! Thank you!

I don't follow any set belief either, and I don't necessarily believe everything this OP said -- but I do believe that they offered a few gems among the rubble!

It was a nice read.. =)

- Mea

Originally posted by Veritas Lux Mea

I don't follow any set belief either, and I don't necessarily believe everything this OP said -- but I do believe that they offered a few gems among the rubble!

It was a nice read.. =)

- Mea

Yes - neither do I. I have always been "guided" - I thought everyone was like me. It was a shock to me to learn not everyone feels a connection to another dimension/vibration (whatever). Too much reading "other people's ideas/perceptions can confuse the truth.

I do a general over-all then take direction from my own guides.

reply to post by Mind1universe


Most of what you say to me is preaching to the choir. About what evil is and the misconceptions of bad and good ect...I know that all paths benefit the purpose in some way....but eventually, the paths have to evolve themselves as love, this is where abandoning the negative path comes into play in higher dimensions. There is defiantly a difference between love and hate....the difference that this shows is not if someone is better then another or does or does not deserve love or forgiveness but instead shows where that light is for its path of growth. If a being is choosing a negative path it is more to do with their attachments to this sphere then anything else....for them to move forward from this sphere the negative path needs to be abandoned.

The whole idea of good and bad, evil, ect...has most defiantly became blurred in this world. It doesnt show who is worthy and who is not...but yet it shows if a light is ready to move on or not.

Everything I have ever done that I can now look back on and see how I would of done it differently now are things that were due to my Earthly attachments. Would I change those things if I could? No. Why? Because I learned from those events and opportunities. But my path would be different if the same situation occurred again in my life...acting now more in a base of love then self.

Nature brings enough catalysts all by itself. We do not need to be negative for others to learn. We teach them more by being love for them. Nature gives us the cycles and these cycles provide us with catalysts. Many would call this evil in itself, like storms that kill people, floods that kill people, these killings cause families to mourn and suffer for the loss. These natural catalysts are plenty and there is no need for a being to think they need to inflict something besides love to another. If they do think this, they are still very attached to 'here'.

Ive seen someone on the other side...and I saw them judge their own self with a Divine Eye. They saw things that could of been different, they experienced other selves (everyone in their life) that stood for or against them. This was not a negative thing....but a 'learning' thing. The Earthly natures blind us many times and we dont own up and learn from them as we should. This is where the karmic spiritual law of reaping what you sow happens and it a must for this sphere. Just because the template itself holds catylysts and both polarities of experiences does not mean that beings are being of service by choosing a polarity of negative path also. They are only stalling the inevitable which is to return to love through love.

It is hard to talk about things like this, for many would read what I write and try to relate it to negative beings from the past like Lucifer. I do not see Lucifer as a negative being....but many many many beings are using this name to claim fame. This is their own Earthly nature that is still very much attached here. Just as though equally those who claim any name from the past as their higher source....same thing...they are attached to this sphere. We have over half of the world who is remaining attached due to the belief in the blood of Christ. This blood will keep them here.

Yes all returns to the source. But in evolutionary times as like now, the last thing wanderers need is the idea that the negative path is ok for them. It is only giving them another way to stay here instead of giving them a way to move on.

Things like this does no one really any good because to understand it, you must experience the 'knowing' of it. Through a higher self or even someone else and their higher self....we see glimpses of lights....the main light is love.

There is no being put here to bring a negative path. Its the Earthly body and natures that blinds them. There is a difference in the actions of love and hate and we need love now on this sphere. We have enough hate in history to teach these sphere for eons. Hate is not of the highest order, hate is not divine nor is it holy in any way. Again, someone that does hate is not any less worthy....but yet has a farther walk then someone that understands the use and need for love here.

The teaching that both polarities serve the same purpose can be beneficial....but like alot of religious beliefs, can be damaging if the seeker stops seeking at that point.

Service of self is when you dont see that others are yourself. There are people that love to serve others but do it for reasons of lets say glorification....this is not the right reasons....they need to see that loving others and service to others is the highest order.....others are yourself. If you dont forgive others....your not forgiving your own self. Many things we see the same...but the idea that beings need to bring negative paths here I now disagree with after seeing the glimpse of after death. I learned that as much as I thought I understood....there was more to understand. In the end, we are where we are and its up to us if we want to be aware or not. You are right where you need to be, just the same as everyone else. We are where we need to be exactly in this moment....for our past is what brings us to this point and it helps us decide what we need tomorrow to be.

Our thoughts somewhat differ but I see many things the same also.

My best to you
LV

reply to post by Annee


Hello Annee....

There is only one reason I bring the Law of One up here and that is to show where they dont compliment each other. The Law of One talks about the negative polarity needing to be abandoned by 6th density. But yet this hidden hand says Lucifer is 6th density. So for 2 things to compliment each other...there is a huge discrepancy. I dont know which is right or if they are both wrong...but for two things to talk so much of similar things and have a huge difference as well should be noted.

There are still things I hold close to me that I learned from the Law Of One...but I also learned to never stop seeking or thinking that all of truth can be found in one place. If I see someone that seems like they could gain insight from something the Law Of One talks about...that is what I would suggest to them. If I see someone that seems to be searching something I discovered in gnostic text....that is what I would suggest to them. If I see someone needing a insight I gained from the Bible...that is what I would suggest to them.

In the end, it all should be taken with a grain of salt and the knowing that nature has all the answers we need. All writings have distortment. The past is our best teacher though and the past gets brought to us through writings...so the distortments are unavoidable. Even channeling like the Law of One most defiantly would come with distortment. But what I do note in the Law of One and the process that occurd over the many years of that channeling is the care the 3 people took for things to be pure and correct while attempting such a tasks.

My best to ya
LV

Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by Annee

 

Hello Annee....

There is only one reason I bring the Law of One up here and that is to show where they dont compliment each other. The Law of One talks about the negative polarity needing to be abandoned by 6th density. But yet this hidden hand says Lucifer is 6th density.

My best to ya
LV

As I said above - how I read things is different then the average human. Actually - I would never take any interpretation by humans directly.

Its kind of hard to explain because I was born that way. Kind of like trying to teach your native language to a foreigner. I find a foreigner who has studied the English language to be the better teacher because they themselves had to learn from scratch.

Sorry if that is confusing. I'm also watching a 2 year old while typing and trying to think. LOL

I don't really read - - its more like absorbing and then filtering - with guidance from my guides. Its completely natural for me to do it that way.

About densities - - my guides say that's a "need to know" - - when I "need to know - I will". Its like worrying about the wrong thing.

reply to post by Annee


Over the last few years I have majorly moved away from taken writings by humans too literal and started seeking more within as well as through what some would call a higher prime self or guide. I do think though that by learning about all the histories of mans beliefs we can see how our thought processes have evolved. For example...we have gone from God being the literal sun in the sky (prime light and giver of life) to an invisible light/energy or force (everything is energy). I think within the template of nature and the thoughts of humans as well...we can see a path of evolving along the way with our beliefs.

It took me a couple of years to brake away from the idea that the faith I was raised in was not something I had to accept. The guilt I went through when I began to think outside of that box was like a shackle on my mind.

I dont take any written word as 100%....but I do find it reason enough to make notes when two writings are similar in some ways or different. It may not show me a absolute truth, but it shows why another man once thought of it as truth....even enough so at times where they laid down their life for that belief.

I see many people now today willing to look outside of the box and this excites me.

Take care!
LV

[edit on 24-9-2009 by LeoVirgo]

Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by Annee

 

Over the last few years I have majorly moved away from taken writings by humans too literal and started seeking more within as well as through what some would call a higher prime self or guide. I do think though that by learning about all the histories of mans beliefs we can see how our thought processes have evolved. For example...we have gone from God being the literal sun in the sky (prime light and giver of life) to an invisible light/energy or force (everything is energy). I think within the template of nature and the thoughts of humans as well...we can see a path of evolving along the way with our beliefs.

Oh - absolutely!

And I do know it is no accident I am here in the physical. As a child it was very difficult for me to understand and ground myself. I really did not want to stay here.



It really makes me wonder about autism and other behaviors today.l