The "up-to-the-minute Market Data" thread

reply to post by D.E.M.


You just don't watch enough lol

USD goes up when stock prices fall, that is normal too.

Commodities drop when dollar goes up, prob. what you are seeing as well

Originally posted by D.E.M.


Not that i've checked it every day, mind you, but it has been quite a while. Almost everything had a 1-2% loss today, except, bizarrely the USD gained almost 1%?

There is nothing bizarre about dollar going up in price in time when some tools of investment show signs of metal fatique, coz that's the currency with which you buy the most safest investment ever invented by Man: the US Treasuries. Btw, the Treasury Auctions went very well today.

But since this is an across the board wild conspiracy board, I should go along: I suspect that the market is manipulated in such a way, that when the government needs to sell its debt, it redirects the markets to head south.

The spark that ignites conspiracy comes from the fire where facts are burning. That's what I learned from hanging around ATS.


[edit on 9/25/2009 by stander]

Where's that hex? He's supposed to report on the pre-market activities and the action abroad.

All quiet on the Western front, except in Japan where NIKKEI, which amplifies the sound of US markets farts since Hiroshima, didn't do that well and is about 2.5% down. The shares of Nomura Holdings Inc, which is an investment bank, shed 16% of their value. Remarkable . . .

Is the Dow going to close bellow the Previous Close line for the third time in a row?
The better chance is that it isn't.

Aah, the Tempster is here. Wonder what is it this time . . .

G7 & G20 = ?



G__ & G__ = ?



G__ & G__ = Global Government

reply to post by stander


the auctions should have gone very smoothly. The Fed said it bought $25.675 billion gross of agency MBS from Sept. 17 through Sept. 23. They are very gradually reducing their purchases however.

www.reuters.com...

reply to post by stander
Durable Goods... -2.4% ...ouchy...and Steve Liesman is stuttering to explain (sugar coat) the fall

Gi-Gi???

Isn't that like Pippi Longstockings cousin?



All is unwell again in the land of Oz...

9644.44 9607.0 -37.44
1046.28 1040.8 -5.48

USD 76.865

FTSE 100 5,091.20 8:34AM ET Up 11.93 (0.23%)
CAC 40 3,739.53 8:34AM ET Down 18.83 (0.50%)
DAX 5,572.55 8:34AM ET Down 32.66 (0.58%)

Spain tips into depression
www.telegraph.co.uk...

U.S. large-loan bank losses triple to $53 billion
www.reuters.com...

Oil rises above $66; Goldman ups demand forecast
www.reuters.com...

GSCI Energy 220.71 -8.84 -3.85% 09/24

See how that works?

Oil falls on concerns...Mr Goldmans lunch money decreases...Mr Goldman ups forecast...problem solved!!!


Whoops...WTI Crude falling now...guess Mr Goldman needs to slap his Oil PR man around before lunch today


WTI Crude 65.05

And if that ploy fails...

Goldman to benefit from new OTC derivatives rules: Citi
www.reuters.com...

Morgan Stanley leads as M&A shows signs of life
www.reuters.com...

And this is interesting...

CBOE Optn P/C 0.99 0.09 10.00% 09/24
stockcharts.com

[edit on 9/25/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Stocks fell for a second day Thursday after the Federal Reserve announced plans to start unwinding some stimulus measures and a report showed existing-home sales fell last month.

At talks in Pittsburgh in the United States, the Group of 20 countries pledged to keep emergency economic stimulus measures in place until a durable recovery was secured.

That comedy may need some script editing, so it would become clear what's the joke.

Lower durable goods orders and slower home sales are giving this stock market pullback some good old fashioned fundamental cause for a continued drop today. The longer term G20 message that the loose money policy should be continued is supportive of the world equity markets. I'm not sure the rally is over but we are going to need to get a big bucket of sand before we can build the Dow castle tower to 10,000.

I agree.

I am absolutely looking for a big up move next week -- the last one.

Something will have to set the fire under traders butts.

I have no idea what it could be, but I am sure the markets will all make a sprint upwards next week.

It's FDIC Friday Kiddies...and a early start at that!!!

Failed Bank List
www.fdic.gov...

#95 Georgian Bank Atlanta GA 57151 September 25, 2009

The FDIC estimates that the cost to the Deposit Insurance Fund (DIF) will be $892 million.

Now we have to be getting close to, "The last Bank in GA...please turn off the lights..."

And not to forget...

NCUA
www.ncua.gov...

Media Release – Keys Federal Credit Union Placed Into Conservatorship
Thur, 24 Sep 2009 15:00:00 -0500
www.ncua.gov...

Media Release – Comunidades FCU Closes, Majority of Members Now Served by Water and Power Community CU
Tues, 22 Sep 2009 13:00:00 -0500
www.ncua.gov...

No miracle recovery today...

Dow Jones Industrial Average 9,665.19 4:02pm ET Down 42.25 (0.44%)
S&P 500 INDEX,RTH 1,044.38 4:45pm ET Down 6.40 (0.61%)

[edit on 9/25/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Ok, yesterday was def not the test of the 20ema apparently, but today was and IMO we passed this with flying colors

Continuously in this rally (LIKE NASDAQ 2003) we have stairstepped our way on the 20 EMA DAILY.

I see no reason this streak doesn't continue

Put me down for shorting the dollar and buying commodities and buying my calls for 1100 ON THE SP500 (I BELIEVE WE WILL HIT 1100 THIS COMING WEEK)

I think we head for R#2 this comming week then see the real pullback..

So as of right now this is where I am..

I have illustrated on this chart everything I am thinking

RiGhT HiZzErE





[edit on 25-9-2009 by GreenBicMan]

Originally posted by fromunclexcommunicate
Lower durable goods orders and slower home sales are giving this stock market pullback some good old fashioned fundamental cause for a continued drop today. The longer term G20 message that the loose money policy should be continued is supportive of the world equity markets. I'm not sure the rally is over but we are going to need to get a big bucket of sand before we can build the Dow castle tower to 10,000.

This kind of sentiment doesn't reflect from the intraday. There was a upward movement between 1:30 and 3:00 that was the part of the better chance that the Dow would finish above the Previous Close today. That's why I went along with the + sign. But then, scavengers showed up after three. LOL. When the curve is hugging the Previous Close in the morning, it's very difficult to tell apart up from down looking ahead to the finish.

Oil hasn't dipped and so the looting after three wasn't done by orthodox investors. I think that a few more trading days is needed to zoom on the image of October.

The board was 3 bulls to 2 bears Friday, bears won. Nobody is talking about this pullback being a major trend reversal, but the smart money that got out Wednesday may be waiting for lower prices before buying back in. Another drop of 100 points on the Dow would not break the longer term trading range.

Any bears in a leveraged short position need to be watching for the turn around to the upside though.

EU banks have credit losses of $587 billion: paper
www.reuters.com...

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Twenty-two large banks in Europe may have accumulated credit losses of close to 400 billion euros ($587 billion) for this year and next, the International Herald Tribune reported on Saturday.

Podesta Says Value-Added Tax ‘More Plausible’ as Deficits Grow
www.bloomberg.com...

Spain will raise value-added tax and levies on savings to Raise $16.2 Billion, Tame Record Budget Deficit
www.bloomberg.com...

France Must Raise Taxes After Economic Crisis, Senate Finance Chief Says
www.bloomberg.com...

Nice huh? :shk:

And in the race to the bottom...

Pound Drops on Speculation Bank of England Favors Declines to Buoy Economy
www.bloomberg.com...

Yen Rises to Seven-Month High as Japan Reiterates Anti-Intervention Stance
www.bloomberg.com...

Swedish car maker could pull out of Saab deal-paper
www.reuters.com...

BTW: A Layman's Guide to Technically Analyzing Medium-Long Term Financial Choppy Markets by GreenBicMan
www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 9/26/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Originally posted by fromunclexcommunicate
Another drop of 100 points on the Dow would not break the longer term trading range.

No, it would not and if it happens during the last 3 trading days of September, the long 95% confidence level range will cover it -- according to my stat.

Bellow are the Dow monthly ending for February through August. Last three days in a month are considered and the median day is recorded to lessen the effect of variability caused by very good and very bad news that may affect one-day performance:

Feb. 26 _________ 7182
Mar. 31 _________7609
Apr. 30 _________ 8168
May 28 _________ 8404
Jun. 30 __________8447
Jul. 30 __________ 9154
Aug. 28 _________ 9544

Since there are only seven values, the projection wouldn't be that tight, and so I took two regression curves that had the highest correlation. After computing the means and the standard deviations for both cases, the final result was that with 95% confidence the Dow will be somewhere between 9,542 and 9,819 in one of the last three trading days in September. So if the Dow continues the descend by another 100 points before September is over, this trend wouldn't treat it as a surprise.

But this idea

Strategist expects a 7-17% pullback in October

more . . .

is not based on trends; it is a guess work based on circumstantial influences foreseen, and I'll get back to this projection when October is over.

The outlook doesn't provide for the Dow to continue descending bellow 9,500 in the same way it doesn't provide for reaching the 10k mark by the end of September -- as I thought that the psychology defeats the math and makes it happen -- unless there are well-above average set of negative news coming from the financial media on daily basis. The current trend has been set by certain circumstances and these circumstances had to be replaced by different ones for a new long-range trend to develop.

This stat is not designed to see too far beyond September, but you can use it tentatively to project further. It only says that there is a better chance that 10k won't be reached in October. But I have hunches . . . LOL.

reply to post by stander


INteresting stance

It just missed your earlier prediction of 10,000, but I undercut you drew carey style and I missed as well with 9900 lol

I think this week will be bullish big time setting another new yearly high then we run into our friend R2

R2 should make all the naysayers come out again only to be caught holding short positions towards later in the year where one morning they will all be stopped out once more with a big bounce off of the 200 EMA

Lets see what happens

Originally posted by GreenBicMan
reply to post by stander

 

INteresting stance

It just missed your earlier prediction of 10,000, but I undercut you drew carey style and I missed as well with 9900 lol

I think this week will be bullish big time setting another new yearly high then we run into our friend R2

R2 should make all the naysayers come out again only to be caught holding short positions towards later in the year where one morning they will all be stopped out once more with a big bounce off of the 200 EMA

Lets see what happens

So do you still think Wal Mart is going to 60 dollars by year's end like you said in a few posts past even though it has been challenged as of late?

reply to post by NoIWontTouchIt


59 actually and yes..

We bounced off 50 hit 51.xx then fell back big time friday, but so did the whole retail sector, but I think I would take a theoretical $2.50 sell stop and place my sell limit 59

Originally posted by GreenBicMan
Ok, yesterday was def not the test of the 20ema apparently, but today was and IMO we passed this with flying colors

Continuously in this rally (LIKE NASDAQ 2003) we have stairstepped our way on the 20 EMA DAILY.

I see no reason this streak doesn't continue

Put me down for shorting the dollar and buying commodities and buying my calls for 1100 ON THE SP500 (I BELIEVE WE WILL HIT 1100 THIS COMING WEEK)

I think we head for R#2 this comming week then see the real pullback..

So as of right now this is where I am..

I have illustrated on this chart everything I am thinking

RiGhT HiZzErE





[edit on 25-9-2009 by GreenBicMan]

Asia is taking their recess, but is def. in the red

Futures holding up though - with the previous post in mind and sp500 only under fair value by 1.50 or so I like this area - hopefully our friends in Europe feel the same way

[edit on 28-9-2009 by GreenBicMan]

With enough patience, we'll get the chance to relive the exciting days of September 2008
starsmedia.ign.com...
coz there is only one lipstick left for fine Nance to art her mouth.

That Wall Street is making money again in essentially the same ways that thrust the banking system into chaos last fall is reason for concern on several levels, financial analysts and government officials say.

There have been no significant changes to the federal rules governing their behavior. Proposals that have been made to better monitor the financial system and to police the products banks sell to consumers have been held up by lobbyists, lawmakers and turf-protecting regulators.

In other words, if you don't get aggresive, you perish. So which way are you going to go?
No one over at Wall St. is stupid enough to sing "Dear Prudence." The People got the sheet music, so they know how "Emotional Rescue" goes:

If you bail me up
If you bail me up I'll never stop
If you bail me up
If you bail me up I'll never stop
I've been running hot
You got me ticking gonna blow my top
If you bail me up
If you bail me up I'll never stop

Oh, yes, mothergoose . . .



[edit on 9/28/2009 by stander]

reply to post by GreenBicMan


I knew Europeans loved me. I usually do well with Euro trash girls, so this totally falls in line with expectations lol.

If we were still playing our weekly options game I would take 1/4 off the table.. and then send me some bc I need to move out of my parents house hahaha

More to come when I can get my charts running