Hitlers UFO program

My dad fought in WWII and mentioned at one time about this program. He died about twenty years ago and recently I ran across some of his old letters and things. It reminded me of the story, so did a little research and found this amazing site. Seems that this could answer a lot of questions since Roswell. Site: discaircraft.greyfalcon.us...

Those pics are photoshopped and Nazi UFOs wouldn't be capable of lift even if they existed. Don't fall for the Nazi urban legend which some folks want to keep alive.

Here are a few known technological observations for flying saucers:

1.) Power source is High Voltage which can range in the billions. You can't achieve this with gas or oil! Lift is also proportional to mass and energy. Even if one could raise the energy levels, where the hell is the HUGE gas tank? LOL

2.) Craft alloy is strong but lightweight. 95% aluminum and 5% iron would probably be ideal. Say goodbye to the Cannon.

3.) Edges are rounded to help avoid corona discharge. Say goodbye to the cannon and rivets. Ever wonder why UFOs look polished and edges are smooth? Now you know!

4.) Whole craft is balanced and equal distribution of charge among the hull is essential. Say goodbye to the cannon or any other protrusion. This is also the reason why they use strong/balanced geometric shapes which are circular or triangular.

Hitler would need nuclear or fusion power to make it work. He had neither. However, his highest technological achievement (where nuclear is concerned)was potentially a crude dirty bomb.

This is probably my favorite subject in alternative history.

Grey Falcon has a lot of good information, I might suggest Joseph Farrell's "Reich of the Black Sun" or Nick Cook's "Hunt for Zero Point Energy" for some books on the subject.

Or search ATS, I've spent many hours looking up Kammler, Nazi ufos, and their atomic programs.

A lot of the pics are fakes, and as with the entire ufo phenomenon, there's photoshopped pics everywhere.

But I do believe there is a plausible stance in believing in Nazi UFO technology and I wish there was more new info about it.

Perhaps you should have done a search before posting. Not only is there another Nazi UFO related thread running - but there are also much larger/comprehensive ones that are a few months older. There's nothing wrong with resurrecting an old thread.

The VRIL Disks 1941-1945
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[edit on 16/10/08 by InfaRedMan]

Two Nazi UFO threads in the same day

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reply to post by nikolat23


Tesla had free energy discovered back in the early 1900's... why do you think they only use gasoline?

New Movie 'bout Nazis

This movie looks both interesting and fun...

I can already see the naive taking the topic over...

O'well...

There is a book titled 'The SS Brotherhood Of The Bell' by Joseph P. Farrell that was published by AUP in 2006 that has some declassified material in it that relates to the Nazi projects for UFO type aircraft during the Second World War. I can't say that everything I've seen in it is exactly 100% right, but there is enough in it that IS truthful that makes me think that perhaps we brought some of these Nazi Scientists and Military personnel to this country under PAPERCLIP to aid us in R & D and that maybe this ties in with what later happened at Roswell, N.M. I think it would be worth the time to study both the book I mention in my7 post and the other books mentioned elsewhere in this thread to see what does fit together and what kind of falls off to the wayside.

You got to see the online book of Henry Stevens on this topic.
I stated out on the Hitler disc plane book before checking with
books by William R. "Tesla Free Energy UFO" Lyne.

mp3 download Stevens and Lyne


Should work or go to root site page and look for downloads.

ED:
Tesla - Nazi UFO History
There is not much from the Nazi era one can be sure of as a UFO
except the Foo. Written up in newspapers and suppressed among the
Air Force. An they might only be as big as a Volkswagen Bug.
Or at least reminiscent of the VW Bug in shape.

Parts of a guidance system may have been found by Patton
and one part thought to be from 1943 was found in Los Alamos
scrap. However, something bigger may have been in the air.
Von Braun is thought to have levitated a submarine.
A submarine being though of as operable as an airship if
not space ship.

Von Braun is thought to be head man on saucer secrets as well
as bringing back a rocket engine improvement devised by Peter
van Dresser of the New Mexico Rocket Society. Dr Goddard was
the Illuminati head of the Rocket Society at the time. Peter started
the society and left when the army took over operations. Willy
Ley was the representation from Germany for the Guggenheim
Foundation funded Rocket Society. Ley defected and replaced by
Von Braun who was sent through a PhD to Officer position to make
sure he came back to Germany. Von Braun was Ley's replacement.
The p2 project refers to the two potentials (voltages) needed for
UFO flight. Forces equal p#1 squared times gradient of p#2 as a
quick way to understand how the UFO works.

In 1945 the free energy scientists ended up in New Mexico.
So thats it for Nazi UFOs.

The 1953 UFOs over DC must have been developed from 1945.
In 1955 it is suspected that Allied nations resigned to keep the
saucer a secret.

The Tesla Free Energy UFO Conspiracy takes Tesla as one of many
who knew the secrets of the UFO and had tried to patent the machine
in Switzerland. He then patented the parts in America after meeting
opposition in Europe. The coil in my avatar is one device.

Tesla and John Jacob Astor had the 'dirigible torpedo' project in
Oregon until the Titanic disaster in 1912. In 1914 Tesla sold plans
to the German Navy represented by Von Tirpitz. Perhaps meeting
Tesla in Los Alamos Technical Area 33 (TA-33) in 1936-37, Von
Braun had more saucer plans from the "p2" project. From 1914 on
Tesla made little public patenting to be bought and nothing done.
Tesla made great claims as others did but everyone knew Tesla
was holding back great things. Getting daily newspapers from Germany
Tesla was aware of where his designs were progressing. Perhaps
telling his accountant he would claim design origin for the Foo as he
did with the radio, the Illuminati needed to take any remaining
documents. Their nefarious effort may have precipitated Tesla's
death and the FBI locked up all effects.

Perhaps in 1945 Von Braun took the documents to Los Alamos where
he first worked on Tesla designs in America.

As far as I can tell, thats the Nazi UFO history from the Tesla angle.


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reply to post by nikolat23


The way the Tesla Free Energy UFO works as so refined by the
free energy scientists coming to America in 1945 and landing in
New Mexico and with Willy Ley, thought to be in on America's first
saucer design as a microwave expert probably working near
Maryland, is by electrostatics.

In "The Greatest Secret Ever Denied: UFO:" see Willy Ley
talk about how unknown UFO saucers are.

Voltage is needed but not current.
The generators, circuits, coils, anodes, counter rotating engine all
designed by Tesla.

Stressed ether supports the charged craft.

reply to post by Wally Conley


Henry Stevens has a project with German engineers in Germany looking
for projects that will at least indicate free energy scientists were in on
some of Tesla's ideas.

The only other free energy work I recall the might be found
elsewhere is from Dr Moray.

Also the Linde liquid air process which Tesla had as well is mentioned
in a letter to John Jacob Astor produces non relativistic phenomena.
Gases and some elements recover from stresses without external
rejuvenation. Liquid air being used in Nazi cannons.

The 1909 'dirigible torpedo' must have sent shock waves coming
from Tesla in light of this being the UFO zeppelin or cylinder.
Present day researchers dis info when saying its a jet or forerunner of
the flying wing or Space Shuttle.

There may have been many people world wide working on
the hardware that physics predicts will happen.
But Tesla was putting out public information and saucer wannabes
would seek out this information from the open source (Tesla)
instead of joining some wacko group in order to make a saucer.

reply to post by dcmb1490


Read the book "Rise of the Fourth Reich" by Jim Marrs. It is quite interesting and delves into the Nazi scientists.

The disks that were built here were very unstable, like the flying wings. They had to wait until avionic computers were evolved enough to handle the types of design.

The Nazi "Bell" is still unknown as to what it was. The papers were destroyed and the scientists who worked on it were shot. Some papers may have gotten out, but there is little to suggest it did. Mr Marrs tries to speculate on what the bell was, but it is one of the mysteries of the Third Reich.

Do you believe that they landed on the moon? then mars? or the first ones to land on the moon?

See Appendix III: Prof. Hermann Oberth notes on UFOs

Way at the bottom of the page.
I'm surprised its still there.

The disks always fly in a manner as if the drive is acting perpendicular to the plane of the disk; when they are suspended over a certain terrain they keep horizontal; when they want to fly very quick, they tilt (tip) and fly with the plane directed forward.

Oberth reveals the two forces horizontal and vertical as Tesla told
how his craft would work.
Oberth of course being in Nazi German perhaps involved in the
Tesla aircraft development.
Still not revealed is Hitler sending von Braun to America to meet
with Tesla in the late 1930s before WWII.
Sent to the Rocket Society in America and perhaps meeting also
with or copying a Van Dresser rocket nozzle design.
Perhaps indicated by Bill Lyne as the US - Nazi UFO program.
Still going on?

Originally posted by MuscleRocker
Do you believe that they landed on the moon? then mars? or the first ones to land on the moon?

I only heard of a large cylinder ship that might still be around
built after Hitler decommissioned Count Zeppelins fleet with
the promise of a super zeppelin.
That had 11" hull to ward off cosmic particles accelerated by the
billions of volts on the Sun.
Thus German scientists must have paid attention the Tesla through
the years as their command and control through encrypted radio
communications surely didn't pay any royalties.