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Is there really a Super Secret?
Originally posted by question_reality
theres another that was missed...PSD, presidential security detail. its mostly just a background check saying you wont go nuts standing next to the president and kill him. or at least theres nothing in your history or evals that says you have the likelyhood of doing so. It may be technically classified as something else, but when i applied for mine, thats what it was called.
There's alot of errata and misunderstanding contained in this thread.
I started to compile it all but have run out of time!
For starters:
- There are only three US classification levels: CONFIDENTIAL, SECRET, TOP SECRET (NATO has an extra one, RESTRICTED, which is below CONFIDENTIAL)
- Some of these terms - Umbra, for example - are obsolete, and were never actual clearances anyway
Not to pick nits, but:
quote: COMSEC- Cryptological clearanace for working with codes
This isn't a clearance, it's an acronym for Communications Security (does relate to crypto, though...)
Re: COMSEC - yes, it's both a description and an access...my point (poorly made!) was that it's not a clearance. Clearance and access are two separate things. You can have a clearance but no access, but you can't have access without a clearance.
The US has several levels of releasability to other nationals - the most common are NOFORN, Releasable to Canada/Great Britian, and Releasable to NATO. This in general only applies to Secret, Top Secret is almost never releasable to other countries.
In regards to your 'What about Rhyolite Clearance' I am writing to inform you that such clearance does not exist, nor has it ever. This idea was conjured up by Phil Schneider with Al Bielek. Whilst Phil DID work for the US government, Al Bielek has been debunked as a sad individual who was in it with Preston Nichols to make a bit of money. Preston is a known Peadophile and Al is nothing more than a compulsive lier.
You forgot ULTRA, MAGICK, and ULTRA-MAGICK...
Yes I understand it better, but not fully. What does SCI, TK, G, HCS-P, and other such letter actualy stand for. They must be an abriviation for some word.
Originally posted by ilovepizza
What computer program would be so secret that only 3 people can access it in the world? I know you were just using it as an example but would something really be that secret that only 3 people could access it?
Originally posted by Scroll_Lock
I know some of you ex military people on this thread know exactly what a ENTNAC clearance is.
EXTRACT FROM LANG REG 380-67
3-2. ENTRANCE NATIONAL AGENCY CHECK (ENTNAC).
a. DEFINITION: An ENTNAC is a personnel security investigation conducted in the same manner as a NAC, except that a technical fingerprint search of the FBI files is not conducted. The period covered includes the last five years for items 4-Residences, and 6-Employment, and all other items without regard to time.
b. PURPOSE: An ENTNAC is conducted on each enlisted member of the Armed Forces at the time of initial entry into the service. An ENTNAC may serve as the investigative basis for granting an enlisted service member (SM) a final SECRET clearance.
c. COMPLETED FORMS REQUIRED:
(1) SF 86 - 1 signed original, EPSQ generated
(2) DD 2280 - 2 originals
3-3. NATIONAL AGENCY CHECK (NAC).
a. DEFINITION: A NAC is a personnel security investigation consisting of a records review of certain national agencies including a technical fingerprint search of FBI files. The period covered includes the last five years for items 4-Residences, and 6-Employment, and all other items without regard to time.
b. PURPOSE: A NAC is required for certain DoD personnel prior to appointment/ retention in positions of trust and responsibility. A NAC may serve as the investigative basis for a final SECRET security clearance.
Originally posted by Scroll_Lock
Well they recently raised this to Quadra Sec and it has to do data that is enclosed in faraday cage and not transmitted outside of the faraday cage by any means..
Originally posted by conflation
Originally posted by winker
Missed this one! (Rhyolite Security Clearance!) Keyword Search
I'm not sure that there is such a thing as a Rhyolite Security clearance. However, there was some discussion of the Rhyolite program in the book "The Falcon and the Snowman." Essentially, they were satellites for spying. The US sort of cooperated with the Aussie government on this so that they could use the Alice Springs location, but it turned out that the US still witheld some information from the Aussies.
Originally posted by StarChild
The clearance itself does not reveal any specific information, only the fact that the person has that level of clearance. I could tell you right now that I have a Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / SI / TK / G / B / HCS Clearance, however, you have no idea what I do for a living, right?
Mr. M
Originally posted by StarChild
As far as what the abbreviations stand for, I can tell you a few.
SSBI = Single Scope Background Investigation
SCI = Special Compartmented Information
CI = Compartmented Information
SBI = Special Background Investigation
Mr. M