Secret United Nations Meetings on Extraterrestrial Life Continue

Originally posted by Zepherian
I've been following expolotics for a while and boy has it been going down the proverbial crapper in my evaluation...

I have to agree with you broadly on your views of exopolitics. However, the reason I figured this was worth a read and some discussion was due to some of the other researchers involved which sets this slightly apart (not all the way).

I actually don't see religion having much of a problem with disclosure really; not at first anyway until communication and learning is established. I see the biggest problem with the economic block. There are hundreds of threads on this forum about what Big Oil has done to keep their technology on top and the admission of private corporations being intimately involved worries me.

Just look at Blackwater, most would agree that this shadowy organisation doesn't engender trust in any way. Yet if the article is true they are intimately involved with Homeland Security in terms of training and supply. What's to say organisations like this aren't involved in this secrecy too?

Son of PC,
Yes me too ...some threads think if they appear it would shatter Christianity. I think if they did it would somehow be part of end times.
Who's to say God didn't create other beings of various types..it is a big universe. If they have some message of other religion ect..why would anyone believe them? God is not going to allow for anything outside His will. Are they going to be able to time travel back to the cross and show Jesus dying and then hang out 3 days to witness the resurrection..Not going to happen..thus where would the element of faith go.
BP

3. If the craft appear without any hostile intent, there should be agreement that no hostile action is taken by any nation.

they wouldnt care if we were hostile,we could shoot at them all year and they would just sit there probably amused at are little attempts to hurt them,
so instead this should read,

3. If the craft appear without any hostile intent, there should be agreement that no hostile action is taken by any nation becasse the craft will infact be holograms and any munitions fired upon them will just pass through them revealing the lie.

so i say lets just test them,dont be hostile,just send up a unmanned unarmed drone to fly at them and see if there real.

After i read few paragraphs i'm pretty sure this is BS.
They didn't want to say his name because of his protection but they said that he was on a meeting, he's serving in Navy since 1960s, the way he talks and that he was in every country in Europe looking for people in that particular period .... I wonder how many people were on that "meeting" with this profile .. ...
For me this is a hoax or they're just stupid ...
Sorry if i got something wrong ... i still haven't read the whole thing ... will do it some other day ....

EDIT: Misstyped something

[edit on 12-10-2008 by baburak]

Very interesting read and I wish, more than anything, that disclosure and contact is finally made

However, this is most certainly a hoax.

They do not want to reveal the identity of Source A, why exactly? So that we the public don't, what? flood his email? give him mad kudos? ask for his autograph?

The only reason you withhold the identity of a source of information is to protect him from those he is exposing. In this case, he is disclosing information pertaining to secret meetings and whatnot attended by a very limited number of authorized personal from around the world. He is one of few representatives of the US Navy, he has been serving for 40 odd years... it would not be feat of genius for 'them' to figure out who this guy Source A is, who is spilling the beans on their above top secret meetings.

However, this reporter, Michael Salla does seem fairly reputable...

I hope this is real.

Originally posted by Shere Khaan
I have to agree with you broadly on your views of exopolitics. However, the reason I figured this was worth a read and some discussion was due to some of the other researchers involved which sets this slightly apart (not all the way).

I'm having a little trouble understanding exactly how some of those researchers, especially Bruce Maccabee since that was one of the main points on the OP, are involved in this besides the article brief mention that this alleged whistle blower 'Source A' "agreed to be physically interviewed and shown his credentials" to Bruce Maccabee, Robert Morningstar and others.

I can write an article filled with speculation, unnamed sources and say that my sources agree to tell everything they know to this and that researcher, but that doesn't make them 'involved' in it...

Has Bruce Maccabee or Robert Mourningstar actually said anything regarding this? Unless they do, I don't see how the exopolitics people can say those people are involved in this.

I dunno about these exopolitics people. To me, they sorta present themselves in the same kinda way that Steven Greer does. They claim to know a source(s) yet, they provide no apparent evidence other than their "word". I think this story is believable, but whether it is true or not.. only time will tell.

I am one of those people who can't believe that something like disclosure will ever occur in any of our lifetimes. Sorry for being negative, but considering people like Col. Halt of the Rendelsham Forest Case have come out and told their story and have said that till this day they have never been briefed on that matter even though they were involved and are high ranking officers, then how are we (the human race) ever going to get briefed on this subject?

UFO's/ET's are at the top of the list of secrets. I hope I wrong though.. nobody would like to see disclosure more than me.

Cant you all see that the Government is behind the UFO thing. They want us to believe in them. Its all part of their plan for the end game along with the Anti-Christ. The so called Aliens are really demons. If any real large UFOs appear then they are holograms. Project Blue beam ring a bell, Its all to make us think the Anti-Christ and his minions are not of the Devil.

Dont be fooled.

Originally posted by Sky watcher
Cant you all see that the Government is behind the UFO thing. They want us to believe in them. Its all part of their plan for the end game along with the Anti-Christ. The so called Aliens are really demons. If any real large UFOs appear then they are holograms. Project Blue beam ring a bell, Its all to make us think the Anti-Christ and his minions are not of the Devil.

Dont be fooled.

Yeah, but how do you know that the so-called project bluebeam isn't a deception or some form of disinformation itself?

I for one strongly disagree at looking at the whole UFO subject matter from a religious perspective. IMHO it only clouds the already foggy truth that we are all trying to get to.

Originally posted by baburak
After i read few paragraphs i'm pretty sure this is BS.

I can understand if you think this is a hoax but please at least read it all and maybe even do a little background reading before posting that it is a hoax.

Additional threads:

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Originally posted by danx
Has Bruce Maccabee or Robert Mourningstar actually said anything regarding this? Unless they do, I don't see how the exopolitics people can say those people are involved in this.

Robert Morningstar has participated in forum discussions of this subject on that named in the article. Also Dr Buce Maccabee confirmed that he had indeed investigated Source A's credentials via email to a forum member and given permission for that confirmation to be used.

Again, this is all nice but it doesn't in anyway prove the information forthcoming as you rightly say. It does, however, go a long way to making the people at least credible.

As to why Source A is still anonymous, it doesn't take a genious to work out what would happen if he came forward. Even if they know who it is there is still plausible deniability; putting a public face to this now would be tantamount to suicide.

After the first time Exopolitics popped up and talked about source A, I got into the whole thing. I started off by contacting the UN... basicly the main office and the space affairs office. They then directed me to another office which they though was more fit.
The answer I got back the first time was rather boring. More or less a plain "no, we're not having any talks about ETs or ETVs".
I thought (probably as many of you) that they were lying and why shouldn't they be.

Anyways, when the 2nd meeting took place and they talked about source A again, I wrote both the UN one more time and Dr. Salla himself.
The UN this time didn't even bother to write me back, and soon after I got a u2u from a member stating I shouldn't be digging so hard (for my own safety implied).
To dr. Salla I asked him for some more detailed confirmation because he at that time hadn't met source A in person. He was trying to get definate confirmaion on source As authenticity. I didn't write back at that time so I couldn't relay any enlightenment in that area.

But now it seems he got a step closer and met A in person? So it's down to Salla being sincere. I'm on the fence. The mail he wrote me back, did indeed sound sincere I must admit. Short, to the point, no dodging of questions directly.

This makes me wanna approach the UN a 3rd time. With all those dates being available to discuss it would be hard for them to avoid it, if these meetings and this infomation is indeed true.

Thx for bringing it forward OP

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Then why do these people make extraordinary claims that they can't back up or verify? I'm not saying these exopolitics people are hoaxers, as I don't really know much about them, but what would be the point of revealing information without proof? to discuss it here?

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I've been thinking that too, but one thing I did notice in the new article, is how A states that his superiors are in the know of him disclosing info in a controlled fashion.
This to me sounds like as long as A doesn't state specific names then it all just remains hearsay and it somewhat safe.
Also it's a soft way of disclosing because even though this might start out in conspiracy forums at some point one of use spills the beans so to speak to a friend, opening the posibility of this actually being true, then he speaks it on to someone else and at one point two people are going to both be saying "yeah I heard that too".
When disclosure then does come, you've cut off the rough edges that could come from massive panic or fear, because people in a way... knew it already.

Speculation yes... but that's what my mind does. All the time
Heh, I'm gonna turn 70 and become a complete loophead x)


Edit: Also... where I have screamed hoax or damager to the cause in so many other cases, there's just something about this whole thing that feels and sounds different. I can't put my finger on it...
But hey, I won't dismiss the posibility of him gathering a lot of nice research for a book.

[edit on 12/10/08 by flice]

From what I've read from other sites some religions will have a very hard time with disclosers. Especially the Hindus, Muslims and the born again Christians. The other Christian sects will have no problem with it as well as,ofcourse, the Catholics. Buddist and their related sects will also have no problems. When I read about the Hindus I was suprised to read that only because of their ancient texts about flying machines and the many gods that they worship would have been old news for them. Oh well, go figure. The Muslims would not like it because then if these aliens believe in a God then Mohammad would not have been the last messenger. As for the born again Christians they would kill themselves believeing that it was the devil himself and not God coming down in a golden chariet to take them to Heaven. Anyway its was very interesting to have read that.

I agree. The implications of disclosing information of ET and UFO reality would be a great risk to world governments, and perhaps they want some of us who are interested in this to be disclosed, but they simply cannot do this "officially" at this time. So leaking this information "unofficially" would be useful in determining people's reactions to this kind of news.

Yes, suicide rates would go up... but I still believe that people have the right to know and that eventually they will all accept it, especially if we found out that ET's aren't hostile, excluding any possibility that they are some Anti-Christ or something.

I don't believe religion should be used as frame of reference for anything, mind you something of the magnitude of ET reality.

a.) this site is awesome

b.) this post is rad!

i often think how great disclosure would be for the war on terror...nothing like a 9ft tall alien to make you question your bigoted fundamentalist beliefs...

i read that the govt expects space travel to be on par w/ intl air travel by 2025...that's crazy! if there are ufos we're gonna start seeing them sooner rather than later!

Originally posted by damagemouse
a.) this site is awesome

b.) this post is rad!

i often think how great disclosure would be for the war on terror...nothing like a 9ft tall alien to make you question your bigoted fundamentalist beliefs...

i read that the govt expects space travel to be on par w/ intl air travel by 2025...that's crazy! if there are ufos we're gonna start seeing them sooner rather than later!

I admire your optimism concerning disclosure, I only wish that I could be more hopeful of this taking place. Like I said earlier, the implications of such disclosure prevent the world's governments from letting this happen.

I know the guy from exopolitics Belgium, becauce I life in Belgium to, he told me he is going to stop his site because there are no UFO's.
He said, the more you do real research, the more you know there's nothing to it.

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Well... that's a chip in Salla's tombstone I must admit I'm a bit disappointed to hear that.
Do you think you friend would mind joining up and sharing his views? Would be interesting hearing what he found out about the whole thing.