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Wow that is the absolute worst footage I have ever seen for all reasons mentioned previously, why such a headline? I have witnessed 2 UFOs that were really strange. I am not saying alien, I have no idea what I saw. Yes, if I took this video I'd post it too. C'mon this is truly the worst! Just because it appears to be a detailed close up of a really cool looking ship does not mean a thing.Nothing about this vid makes it good footage. Also I suppose it's an alien version of a convertible coupe, just cruising Earth's desert, huh? I want to believe. LMFAO

~Hyp

(Just correcting my ignorant IPhone's typos)



[edit on 11-10-2008 by HypnoAsp]

A little something to add to the early morning shots of the lights offshore. The phenomenon is called a Superior Mirage. The boats (or platform or boat) are on the surface of the water (duh) and the mirage is causing the reflection above. These mirages are likely to appear in the early morning hours.

A superior mirage occurs when the air below the line of sight is colder than that above. This is called a temperature inversion, since it does not represent the normal equilibrium temperature gradient of the atmosphere. Since in this case the light rays are bent down, the image appears above the true object, hence the name superior. They are in general less common than inferior mirages, but when they do occur they tend to be more stable, as cold air has no tendency to move up and warm air no tendency to move down.

Originally posted by Phage
Hoax, and a very bad one. The shots, in order:

1. A satellite, probably ISS
   
2. No background, no point of reference. "It's moving fast". OK, I believe him, don't you?
   
3. Satellite, probably ISS
   
4. No background, no point of reference. While zooming out we hear "it's moving away". It's an object alright, but not a UFO
   
5. Looks like a star. Altair and Capella are candidates.
   
6. Offshore oil platform
   
7. No background, no frame of reference, same "thing on a string" we saw before
   
8. Oil platform
   
9. Couldn't watch anymore
   

[edit on 10-10-2008 by Phage]

Gentlemen.

The experts have spoken.

There's no need for me to add more.

Hoax. A very terrible one. By seeing how this thread got blindly starred without any critical and logical thinking shows the level of gullibility of CERTAIN GROUPS of people in ATS. This thread gets a 5 thumbs down from me.


A sad day for ATS.

DENY IGNORANCE

reply to post by AntisepticSkeptic


Your post gets a from me



Anyways, this craft doesn't appear threatening at all. You would think after a day or two they would approach it, and film it up close and personal.

Definitely seems like a hoax to me on many fronts.

Hmmmmmm more jumpy-lights fodder for the gullable UFO 'I wanna believe' mob! I assume that the time is wrong or it gets very dark very early in summer in the country it was filmed?

If this is for real than surely the crafts are uninhabited or unmaned you would have to believe that this size craft would simply not be able to have enough room to actually have anything inside them, don't get me wrong it's not like I beleive we are alone in this universe or expecting an indepedence day event, I simply beleive a life form with such an advance form of travel would'nt even need to enter our atmosphere to study us, look at how much our primitive technology can collect from this solar system what information would they able to collect from quite a distance if they have developed interstella travel what else have they developed I do believe that if we are being watch it is from a distance maybe even as far away as Pluto. Im sure alot of you here are aware of the strange object around I think it is saturn I would think we would be watched from there and if these are real they would simply be recon craft from a main ship else where. Do we park aircraft carriers in the enemies port or do we hold steady out at sea and launch our craft from some distance. ( Im not saying that anything is hostile Im just stating that they would'nt send in any main stella body to do research)


[edit on 10/11/2008 by mullet35]

Originally posted by AntisepticSkeptic

Deny your ignorance lol

Thanks op for your time and effort first of all.

I am no expert however, I would be the first to jump up and down and get all excited if I thought that this was real. I am going to go with my gut on this one and say that this is a hoax. A UFO i.e alien craft. Can turn on a sixpence, accelerate,decelerate vanish, re appear, flash brilliant lights, can grow in size and shrink in size, can morph into another object. The video doesn't show any of these qualities therefore I have to say begrudgingly with gritted teeth, Hoax.





[edit on 11-10-2008 by franspeakfree]

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are you ACTUALLY serious ????

for the reccord - my opinion is that this vid is utter twaddle

but what is your evidence that " real " UFOs can preform all the ` stunts ` you list ?????

have you stopped for one second to consider that there may be more than one " type " of alien craft ???? each with differing flight characteristics / capabilities

just like there are different types of terrestrial aircract - with different capabilities

your dismissal of this , simplt because it does not do what you think a UFO should do is to be blunt , assanine ignorance

made worse by your wish list of UFO capabilities being supported by no credible evidence what so ever

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Thanks again for another one of your fantastic put downs, I have no idea what your trying to say as I am agreeing that this is a hoax, however, it appears that quite strangely whenever I reply to a thread you always seem to be right up behind me and amazingly seem to get appointed stars straight away, I wonder why that is?

As much as I would like to continue in the manner that you seem to be so accustomed to I will choose not to.





[edit on 11-10-2008 by franspeakfree]

although impressive i also agree with Phage and many others .. hoax.

To convienient , they seem to be trying to always cover what analyst request .. ie frame of reference .. whers the moon wheres the moon? the moons pretty big how can his m8 not know where it is , trying to fool us.... their is your point of reference . but its not their never on the screen at the same time.

the talk is to twee seems scripted .

Some of these are physical objects in the sky .. little green men ? i think not.

I had fun watching the video and came to my own conclusions.

However what I find interesting is what degree of evidence the skeptics would accept. Its seems nothing short of a worldwide landing event where one of them lands in your own yard would be enough to convince. The expectations for these videos has to high I understand but come on, not everyone with a camera out there is going to be a perfect recorder of an event and on top of that we can't ask the aliens to move and create the perfect shot.

Human: "Hey Spacecraft, could you move to the left a bit? I need to get a good persepctive shot and could you wait a moment, my memory card is full"

Military aviation has been a life time hobby for me, I spent a lot of time at sea in the Navy and I've seen a lot of crazy stuff. I was lucky enough to see a satillite burn up a few years ago (so totally amazing!). I've seen Venus so bright people thought it was a Helicopter with a search light. Could the lights at the horizon be a container ship? Sure they could, do you know for certain? No, none of us do.

/e bow

Come on, people. I know many of you want to believe it's real, but be realistic. Use some sound reasoning/logic when viewing the video

The video shows a object that very much appears to be a half-circle. Almost like it's attached to a wall. The sky never changes whether it's AM or PM. The object is always still and always filmed in the same angle for nearly a month. If it appeared that much during a 30-day span, wouldn't they inform others(media) or least get a decent video camera? Let's not forget the lack of stars and the patented shaky camera.

Hi did anyone notice at the end of the footage the date of the last recording read sep 28 2008, and is today not sept 11th???

Apologies if this has alredy been noticed!

To anyone who thinks it's the ISS, even if it were, the shape is nothing like it. Did that ever cross your mind?

reply to post by franspeakfree


Don't pay too much attention to the star system

I see horrible posts all the time that get stars.

For instance I have seen plenty of posts that contribute nothing to the thread topic, that are filled with hostility and personal attacks, but because it's Christian themed it will get at least 3 stars from fellow ATS Christians. This is just an example Point is, stars (or lack of) don't always reflect the quality of the post

That said, I gave Ignorant_Ape a star I interpreted your post as saying definitively 'this is how an alien craft is, so this video is false because it is not those things'. I wanted you to elaborate on why you sounded so absolute so I gave him a star for pointing it out.

I think the fact that there are two different videos here is really adding to the confusion. It sounds like some people are posting about one video and not the other. The two videos are very different. I watched the second video first and read the posts. I didn't understand what the references to the ISS meant. Then I went back and found the original video and then the ISS comments made perfect sense.

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Darn, well the members who have been here for less then a year between them think it's a hoax, so I guess the "experts" have spoken.

maybe it's me...but does anyone hear this clicking sound? It sounds like they turn something. If you look from 12.53, you hear this clicking and with every click the light of the UFO gets darker...this seems a little strange for me.

anyone any thoughts about this?

WILL you listen the secret gov has made ufos at least a 1000 feet across to scare us in to the next phase of scaring us and in to the next phase of what they want to do to us REALISE THAT when you see these
or again they deserve to win STOP BEING STUPID AND REALISE THE TRUE NATURE OF THE FORCES AROUND YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!