The Zeitgeist Movement, Stop the Revolution, Start a Coup

The Zeitgeist Movement, Stop the Revolution, Start a Coup

The new zeitgeist film has been released recentley. Now there are alot more people talking about revolution, that is not what we should do. The U.S. military might is unstoppable.
We musn't overcome with a revolution, that is what they want us to do. Haven't you seen that show on the military channel, future weapons. they have fully automatic riffles that can look around a corner with a screen and cap you. the revolution will take place in urban areas. they're already preparing it.

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Also here's a look at some math that I did from the movie.

Devaluation/Federal reserve Age: 96%/94 Years, 100%/97Years. By 2010 the dollar will be worth literally nothing. As of now 4% of the U.S. population controls 95% of the wealth. in 2010 they'll have all of it and the people will have the debt. it took george bush 7 years to take the public money and put it into private hands. now in his last year he is taking private debt and putting it into public hands. But when they have all the money it'll be worth nothing.


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Don't you think you're taking the word "revolution" a bit too seriously? Zeitgeist isn't talking about an armed confrontation, that would in fact be the direct opposite of what the message the movie is trying to make. The revolution has to be in your and everyone else's state of mind. WE must realize that we are all ONE, not seperate entities, but ONE.

THAT'S the revolution.

Have a nice day.


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The idea of a coup is good and reasonable at this time.

The current situation calls into question "the-way-things-are-done" and "everything-we- have-been-told".

It is clear therefore, nearly everything we have done or know about our society and species in the last 30-60 years will not be sufficient for the continued mission over the next 30-60 years.

In fact the I would contend that the raising of consciousness leads to an understanding of our shared 'oneness' which inevitably will create change in the form of a vertically integrated full spectrum coup.

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I wasn't arguing that a coup, given the current circumstances is a bad idea. It just seemed to me that a different type of a revolution was suggested in the movie.

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I think for revolution to go smoothly we should follow the teachings of Gandhi.

300 million Americans simply cannot be ruled by the "elite" if we choose not to submit.

6.5 Billion people resisting in this way and we're set.

i wasn't refering to the revolution mentioned in the zeitgeist movie, the only thing i used addendum for was to show that the federal reserve is bull #. i'm saying that people want an armed confrontation and that isn't the answer. we would be oblitterated in less than a day. and if we did that then the head planners of our movements would be captured and we would have to organize again. by the way we do need to organize

i'm not trying to organize by the way, i'm just saying. and i posted this with more information but some was taken out if you want to see some more go to www.freewebs.com/porgressiveagenda

So where's the link to this revolution? It says 'visit the link for the full news article' but there's no article! I want to see it just to find out which so-called journalist was responsible for those criminally heinous spelling mistakes! I mean... recentley, alot, riffles? Come on!!!

I felt the new Zeitgeist movie was essential viewing, but I have my reservations about the Venus Project. How do you handle the nature of labour? How do you implement a resource-based economy while balancing the haves with the have-nots? Is it communism? Does this mean that every person will have a nice house, nice car, big plasma tv regardless if they are a skilled doctor or the equivalent of a lazy bum on the street? In practice, how is this going to work?

The interview on Zeitgeist Addendum sounded all lovely and flowery, but I have problems with the practicalities regarding physical nuts-and-bolts implementation of the utopian society they speak of.

I too, share concerns. However, I am attempting to think all the repercussions of everything this video could possibly have effect upon the world. On the one hand, we can look away. We can pretend nothing will ever occur to change anything that we are leading to. But that leads only to poverty, hurt, and pain through out the world.

The revolution that Zeitgeist offers to us sounds like an ideal. However, one must be practical when considering something as monumental as this.

I've watched both movies multiple times now, and have perused the internet, forums, etc. Looking for thoughts, opinions, facts, and essentially anything I can find to confirm, or disprove what we are potentially looking to get into here.

I believe, if nothing is done, at the current rate, our world shall become near unbearable . . . unless of course you are among those very few at the top of the world. Everyone else's quality of life will be terrible. And, in the consideration of equality, is it fair to weigh influence, power, etc. to make one being better than the next?

However, What I have seen in our potential solution to Zeitgeist has holes. Terrible holes. Perhaps unfillable holes.

For instance, it was mentioned above . . . How is it we convince productivity to be made if one does not necessarily have to work hard to earn as much as everyone else? There must be organization above some of the standard people to overview a revolution such as this . . . and yet, doesn't that just lead to another small group of people with power? Are we at least offered true democracy in that, not this fake conceited governing we've lived with for too long?

And if so, will that still enable us to make productivity, in relative peace?

So. In my mind, we must weigh . . . which direction, which path has a better probability of success, and which will have the best probability of failure?

As far as I can see, if change is not made, and soon . . . It is nearly guarenteed we will inevitably be immersed wholely and completely into greed, corruption and power, where we will never be able to get out without bloodshed.

If we do decide to make that change . . . And we work for it. . . We will have gigantic obstacles to overcome. I think this obviously is our best option for potentially reviving our world. There are also definitely going to be costs along the way. . . but not nearly as severe as what we are doomed to otherwise.

If we fail . . . Well, We have lost little.

So, To me, We have nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

Change . . . begins with you.

Listen, the zietgeist movement promotes nothing the use of warheads- wouldnt that just be the wrong confrontation? I dont think your thinking of the right revolution either, its just that the media and the government are controlling things in the way of a 5 year old would do when playing Sim City. With the way things are going, change is something evitable. Its something we as one "nation" needs.

They spent a good deal of time explaining how their resource based world would work. I don't think you're fully understanding the radically different world we have in stock for us.

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just hypothetically speaking if it did come down to and armed revolution or whatever...why would family kill family I mean I highly doubt you family member in the service wont come back to his home town to start butchering people he knows. im sure thier a bit smarter than that if not god help us lol.

well said anonymousATS! just imagine the work that the we could accomplish could get done,important work; which we cannot at the moment accomplish due to the current monetary restrictive system, but easily and as priority in a resource based ecology

While I am excited by this movie and movement---I also saw how THE SECRET came and went. It is hard to people FOCUSED long on ANYTHING,

If Revolution is equal to a resistance then it will not work.

The very nature of this system requires the workers to want it, for it is for their benefit to begin with...

...There will be a Revolution in one way or another. A direct armed conflict is out of the question. Not to mention that it is doomed to fail. As it is said, it is crucial to understand that we are all ONE.

About the Venus Project. I took me a while to think it through. Nobody said it is the best alternative...But it sure is an effective one. It is NOT communism. The biggest problem of communism was that when they came to power they killed all the intelligentsia. Lets face it, all throughout history, countries are ruled and major decisions are taken BY the intelligentsia... concentrated mainly outside the government. The Venus Project incorporates all people to contribute to one common cause. Don't even hope that the goal can be achieved in one generation. The mentality of the people needs to be reformed. A person needs to be born in a non-monetary society in order to completely adopt that true state of mind Fresco is talking about. What we need to do is to put the foundation of that society...one way or the other. The alternative will be devastating to us and to the following generations.

I have to disagree in that we have any decision whatsoever. Armed conflict is inevitable, and our own people will shoot each other. With how dumbed down America has become, many of the average people will only know to react with violence, much like a rat backed into a corner. We can make a conscious decision not to be involved in such violence simply because we are aware of the inevitable truth of our dire situation. All we can do is do our best to band together under this idea and make it a reality and show those that are still around from the aftermath the path we've laid out. In the coming years we are going to have to do damn best to insure that as many people aware as possible. Our success is determined by this awareness, that there is a choice, there is another option, a better one, a peaceful one. Many people question the very idea of a resource based economy. Yes, we will have to work! Nothing happens without active participation. If you don't want to participate, that's fine with me, enjoy playing your game of monopoly. The common goal of mankind is to large to greedfully consider one's self over the continued existence of man. To do so is against the very nature of life itself! We have the technology now in our hands to do what is necessary to allocate power and energy to everybody. We can virtually wipe human labor out by replacement with machines. And there is a problem that some jobs will require human labor until we have machines to take their place, but tell me honestly, when you are getting all the resources you need for a honest and happy lifestyle, could you possibly say no to dedicating yourself to the betterment of our race? I personally have no problem with such an arrangement, I prefer to enlighten my common man, to help him and aid him however I can. I simply have too much dignity accept an arrangement in any other measure. And considering the flow that this project proposes, there most definitively will be a cascading effect. We can make this work, this is not outside man's realm of capabilities. Please, do your very best everybody, I trust in you.