Thousands of Troops are Deployed on U.S Streets Ready to Carry Out

reply to post by drsmooth23


Right?!?!
If the PTB round us all up and throw us in the ole FEMA clink, who's going to be there to make them all the money?
Who's going to buy the oil?
Who's going to consume, in this, a consumer-based country?

We are the guys who generate income for the freaking world. Knock America down and there goes half the profit!

How on Earth is Martial Law and US Troops on the street a money-making venture?
Because folks can't have it both ways. America can be either sheep in a pen or Capitalists in a mall. What's the moneymaker?
America spends. It keeps people all over the world working to keep us supplied with all the HD, high-end luxurious crap we so desire.

Supress THAT? No. I think not.

Follow the money, people and you'll find the targets.
Cuhail

reply to post by rcwj75


Lol absolutely true.

I didn't have time to watch it completely through - sorry you guys. Just thought it was interesting at the moment.

Originally posted by Retseh
If the government was really trying to take control, the very FIRST thing it would do would be to seize all personally owned firearms, and yet this current government is the one which not only supports that right, it allowed the AWB to sunset thereby allowing citizens to own high capacity magazines and "assault style" weapons once again.

It just doesn't fit.

If you want to look for a country that is closer to totalitarianism, then look at the UK. They are disarmed and sheeplike, and far more at risk of domination than we ever could be. Soldiers are routinely deployed to airports as part of "exercises" and I have seen more armed troops on the streets in the UK than I have ever seen in the US.

But apparently WE are the ones who are about to be subject to total military control, even with most of our armed forces overseas apparently.

While I enjoy ATS, the silliness and paranoia evident in this site just seems to be getting worse, the number of genuinely compelling and well researched conspiracy threads is in sharp decline, and they are increasingly being replaced by sensationalist garbage like this.

The paranoia and annoyance of the growing paranoia, is getting out of hand. And your right - things like this only add to the deppression in the website and add fear to the readers. But I think - despite those two facts - that people have a right to know what this is and that it's being posted on the internet. And that somebody somewhere claims to have proof that this exists.

Now whether it does or not, I do not know. I didn't write the article, I have not seen American Soldiers on my streets, and I haven't heard a word about it before now.

But with everything going on, with the war, the economy, the job losses, the threat of 'martial law' always threatening to unleash itself unto our American way of life by stripping what little freedom we do have from us - its kind of understandable that little (surely not happening) things like this should be posted.

You may not want to hear it, but IF for the possibility something does break out - you'll know what is.

Peace.

Like was once posted in this thread....
The Soldiers that you fear so much are your brothers and sisters...
They would gladly give their lives in our defense without hesitation.
They are among us all on the streets, in the malls and at festivals enjoying
their lives with their families. Chances are, youve spoken to one and didnt know it!
Right now, they are not on the streets (martial law-wise) but if it comes to that, we must remember, they are there for our protection.
Rioting and luding will be controlled by the Military in worste case senarios and without them, we would be in big trouble!

reply to post by Cuhail


I have to agree with Cuhail. There is absolutely no profit in rounding up the entire American population, and putting them in prison camps. It makes no logical sense. We all hate politicians because of their sick ways of sucking us dry of rights, but mostly for money. The most that will happen to the public is things will get harder to afford, and you'll just have to work more. There will not come a point for a long time, where the government will start giving up the people and the profit. You are their profit, and nothings going to change that.

Honestly, who benefits from putting 200 million Americans in slave camps? A paranoid dictator? If you haven't noticed, this isn't the Soviet Union.
Someones gotta cut the grass at the golf course.

Originally posted by ConMi27
full link

I am in Seattle and heard from the brother of one of the soldiers that they are engaged in exercises now. Amy Goodman reported that an Army spokesperson confirmed that they will have access to lethal and non lethal crowd control technologies and tanks.

[[EDIT: I do not believe to any degree that there are actual American Soldiers wallking our streets. That's ridiculous and it would be ridiculed all over the television news if they were. JUST to clarify - But my problem is for one this article, and for two WHY stress about something that isn't occuring now? I keep seeing articles about how we talk the talk but we don't walk the walk. Okay and... ? Is the author of these articles doing anything about it? Not to be specifically challenging anybody but most of this IS happening now. Please read the entire article to understand... ]]

I think people are just paranoid. Any I am in the military so I'm not getting my info from a friend of a friend. The military does do exercises a lot and when civilians don't know whats going on they make stuff up. They see some people in camo practicing, probably to freshen up on things they do have to do in Iraq (obviously we can't practice there) then people start saying we're running the streets or something is going on.

I find it quite hiliarious actually and I'm sure the many other people on this site who are in the service feel similar. Most civilians don't understand that if something is going on we (the average soldier, airman) has no idea what it is.

I think the reason these troops may be deployed on U.S. soil and practicing for a nucear attack is because there may be 16 huge cargo containers with radioactive waste rigged with explosives making their way to a city near you.

www.tbrnews.org...

The Deynant was not the only cargo ship to load containers of radioactive waste at Nanjing; and two others had preceded her July, 2008 visit. The problem is that the captain did not know either the names of the two Iranian -controlled ships nor their destinations.
His destination was the eastern end of the Mediterranean but it now appears that the ship was not intended to be blown up. Instead, the eight cargo containers were to be taken to the Israeli port of Haifa on the Mediterranean. Haifa is the largest of Israel 's three major international seaports , which include the Port of Ashdod , and the Port of Eilat . It has a natural deep water harbor which operates all year long, and serves both passenger and cargo ships. Annually, 22 million tons of goods pass through the port..In 2007, the U.S. DHS’ CBP initiated a joint security agreement with Israel whereby U.S. agents, working with Israel, would develop and install programs to protect the ports from terrorist attacks..
The American view, known to several other countries, is that as both the United States and Israel have been at the forefront of violent verbal attacks against, and threats of violence to, Iran, they are now the prime targets of what, at the worst case scenario, could amount to a commercial delivery of least 16 containers of deadly radioactive material, mixed with high explosives.
One of the largest cargo container ports in America, Long Beach, California, has DHS inspection teams at work on a round the clock basis but because of the huge volume of traffic, only 2% of the cargo containers can be checked thoroughly at any given time. This means that should another Iranian cargo container, sailing under a false flag and with a false manifest, dock at Long Beach and offload her deadly cargo, there is a 98% chance that it could avoid any kind of inspection, be loaded onto waiting trucks and shipped to destinations all over the United States.
It is extremely doubtful if the Bush administration would attack Iran but because they have been in loud support of an even louder and more threatening Israel, our useless President, [fully responsible for the deliberate removal of vital controls over the American banking industry that has caused the boom-and-bust we are now paying for,] has, by his loud but empty threats against Iran, put millions of Americans at potential risk of a terrible death by radiation poisoning.
This explains the stunned silence on the subject of the Deyanat affair and the tight blackout imposed on any news of her or the purpose of her cargo of powdered death.”
www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by ballast


That is interesting and all but since we already put to rest the whole idea about the troops, it kinda looks like you did not really read this thread.

reply to post by MorningStar8741


Actually, I have read only a portion of the thread, true. However, I did assume that this thread was also including the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team. As of Oct. 1, they are deployed for domestic use including terrorist attacks.

www.armytimes.com...

See for youself, above.

Originally posted by ballast
reply to post by MorningStar8741

 

Actually, I have read only a portion of the thread, true. However, I did assume that this thread was also including the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team. As of Oct. 1, they are deployed for domestic use including terrorist attacks.

www.armytimes.com...

See for youself, above.

Am I the only person that can read the bottom of that page?

Correction:
A non-lethal crowd control package fielded to 1st Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, described in the original version of this story, is intended for use on deployments to the war zone, not in the U.S., as previously stated.

What seems to be preventing people from seeing the correction?

Originally posted by ben91069

Originally posted by ConMi27
This is a republic is it not? WE DO make decisions don't we? Then somebody explain to me why I woke up to this...

It's simple. The people only make decisions indirectly. The people vote for politicians whom they support and believe in and then the politicians - once in office - do whatever they see fit.

The problem lies in that the people are so gullible that they will elect whomever screams the loudest what the people want to hear.

Maybe the people should be more discerning towards politicians and then you would have real leadership.

THIS is NOT a REPUBLIC! This is america. We are in for hard times everyone, let me ask you all a question and let it marinate.... do you really belive that people on this board have made exact predictions ( inside knowlege? na) but how can you think that politicians in the extreme know crowd could not have seen this coming.....Its absolutely crazy!!!

Does anybody feel for me

reply to post by Cuhail


How will the government make money off of us? Easy.. If you owe any debt to the government, ie. foreclosed home, or outstanding credit card debt on government-owned bank (since the takeovers)... you could find yourself working in a chain gang or concentration camp... Have no money or home? Hear-ye, come work for the government- we will provide you food and shelter - you actually have no choice. Also, India and China will start using us to make their cars, clothes, etc. because the U.S. labor will be deemed cheaper than the labor of those former 3rd world countries... U.S. is officially now a 3rd world country!

reply to post by rhombus24

THIS is NOT a REPUBLIC! This is america.

Actually, America is technically a republic, but with tinges of representative democracy built in. This debate has been going on for centuries, but in a pure Democracy, the majority rules, and if that were the case, Congress would NEVER have been allowed to vote for the treasonous Bailout Bill of WALL STREET.
Our pledge allegiance says it best:

"I pledge alliegance, to the flag, of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands .... "

Furthermore, the Constitution itself guarantees a "republican form of government", at Article 4 Section 4, it states: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,"



America is a Republic, a constitutional Republic of a democratic (one man - one vote) nature. However, we are not a democracy where the majority rules. That is government propaganda designed to condition you to accept their injustice and believe that there is nothing that you can do about it. The difference between a Democracy and a Republic is that in a Republic there are certain things that can never be done no matter how many people want to do it ! The rights of no individual or group can ever be removed or diminished (because that group may be currently unpopular (for whatever reason)), regardless of how many people vote to do so. In a Republic, even if the vote is 250 million to 1, that one cannot be thrown into slavery. In a pure democracy 51% of the men can vote the other 49% back into slavery if they wish. Or, they can vote to steal your property (sound familiar), but not in a Republic (if the Constitution or the law forbids it, which ours DOES). Our founding fathers hated democracy, recognizing that it is nothing more than social slavery to the popular hysteria of the masses (sound familiar). They wanted a representative (democratic) system, but not a pure democracy, and they did not establish a democracy in the Constitution, they established a Republic, a Constitutional Republic.

source: www.tax-freedom.com...

OMG!!

I drove a military vehicle on the public roads about 6 months ago... we were even in uniform. We drove erratically on the highway at speeds over 70 mph for about 45 mins.

Oh wait... we were going to office depot to buy stuff for out AT(annual training).

Ok how about this.. there were 2 full size van loads of armed soldiers on the roadway about 9 months ago. Yes we were in uniform and even had kevlar body armor and stuff. Did I mention we were armed?


Oh wait.... we were going from the armory to our training area to shoot weapons.. never mind


If your that paranoid about US soldiers patrolling the streets then maybe you should hang yourself so the evil government doesn't "get" you. You can't live in fear if your dead

I have drill again next weekend. Give me your address and we will be glad to come visit with you, maybe talk about guns or something?

reply to post by MorningStar8741

Am I the only person that can read the bottom of that page?

No, but selective reading is a passtime on ATS!

Am I right?
Cuhail

Originally posted by ballast
reply to post by MorningStar8741

 

Actually, I have read only a portion of the thread, true. However, I did assume that this thread was also including the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team. As of Oct. 1, they are deployed for domestic use including terrorist attacks.

www.armytimes.com...

See for youself, above.

Apparently, you didn't read enough of it because that unit is NOT deployed. Do you know what the word 'deployed' even means in a military sense? The article doesn't claim the unit is deployed either. Read more.

I could not believe this until I went outside and looked at my street. There were soldiers with death ray guns all down my street. They looked kind of drab so I got some flowers from my garden and placed one in every gun barrel they had. I made them some coffee and we chatted about tomatos.
Then I woke up.

Deploy:

3. To put into use or action

Verb
to organize (troops or resources) into a position ready for immediate and effective action [Latin displicare to unfold]
deployment n

en.wikipedia.org...(military)

"A division is a large military unit or formation usually consisting of around ten to thirty thousand soldiers."

There are your "thousands" of soldiers. It seems to me that they are here for the purpose they state they are here for. (See above link from my previous post.)

That said, because the constitution has been changed they can legally be ordered by the President for martial law. I have been reading about the legalities in that regard.

Maybe someone else would like to post links and quotes-alway a better way to "argue".





[edit on 11-10-2008 by ballast]

[edit on 11-10-2008 by ballast]

OK, I'm going to post this one more time. And I'm going to write real slow.

Take a look at history. We have had internment camps in the USA before.
They were horrible places the inhabitants called concentration camps.

Every single man, woman and child was an American citizen. We were going into WW2. The people the government rounded up were of Japanese descent. Japan was our enemy.

Now, here's the hard part to understand. Hopefully you will get it this time.

Put your thinking cap on and let your imagination go. Who do you think
the US government would detain in the event of a world war or extreme terrorism? Who do we think is our enemy now? Who do we fear will terrorize our country?

If you guessed the middle east you are absolutely correct.

Our government does not need to put unruly people in camps. It can easily kill them.

Another historical fact....The Kent State Massacre May 4, 1970 in Kent , Ohio. Four college students were shot to death by the Ohio National Guard.

It is totally illogical and unreasonable to even entertain the idea that your average working American citizen would be locked up in camps.
Who then will work and pay taxes? Who will operate the hospitals and other institutions? Who will travel to outer space? Who will grow our food?

Thousands and thousands of baby boomers fought the Vietnam Conflict. They are now the parents of the 30ish age group. The baby boomers fathers fought in WW2. And it goes on and on. If you hadn't noticed I've changed subjects now.

A few soldiers went mad shall we say. They would have gone mad anyway. They were all human and humans are subject to mental illness. Some soldiers never worked a day after they left the military. Many were not worth a tinker's damn before the war and would have ended up useless anyway.

People, please, use your heads for something besides a hat rack and THINK.

[edit on 11-10-2008 by dizziedame]

Originally posted by ballast


There are your "thousands" of soldiers. It seems to me that they are here for the purpose they state they are here for. (See above link from my previous post.)

That said, because the constitution has been changed they can legally be ordered by the President for martial law. I have been reading about the legalities in that regard.

Maybe someone else would like to post links and quotes-alway a better way to "argue".

Dude, seriously? Go read the original article. You can define deployed, yay. Now can you read? It clearly states that they are not being used INSIDE THE COUNTRY. Please oh please do not even ask for the link again. Just go back to the story and read the whole thing, all the way to the bottom this time. You cannot build an argument out of assumptions.