Tonights Town Hall Debate Discussion

Just curious to see how y'all think its going to turn out. Also wanted to open a thread for the debate itself.

I believe McCain's strongest point is town halls. If he does not whoop Obama tonight, he will be giving up the white house.

Originally posted by AndrewTB
Just curious to see how y'all think its going to turn out. Also wanted to open a thread for the debate itself.

I believe McCain's strongest point is town halls. If he does not whoop Obama tonight, he will be giving up the white house.

Ya I agree...
I think you will see either angry Mccain or funny Mccain.

BO is prob going to cruise...

It depends upon the topics of tonights debate and questions asked. McCain definitely has to start mentioning the Freddie Mac & Fannie May debacle whihc led this rediculous ecomonic situation and how Obama had hired the former President of Fannie/Freddie to choose his VP canditade and consulte with as well as bring up ACORN and it's assoication with Obama currently and in the past and how it is currently under inditment in over 15 states on charges of voter fraud. Maybe it should also be mentioned that Obama's plan to cut 95% of taxes for people is flawed...since ~35-40% of people don't pay taxes........that sounds like attempting to 'purchase' votes.

Enough of the 'voted to raise taxes 94 times' eventhoough he 'technically' did....McCain has to stop rehashing...go on the attack and most importantly get his meesage out on how he'll actually change things.

Originally posted by AndrewTB
Just curious to see how y'all think its going to turn out. Also wanted to open a thread for the debate itself.

I believe McCain's strongest point is town halls. If he does not whoop Obama tonight, he will be giving up the white house.

McCain has got to hit Obama hard with his tax plan as it's flawed in so many ways. He can easily link Obama's tax plan to the fleeting economy and show how it could make things worse. If McCain doesn't hit up that point hard and come out swinging on the other topics then yeah, the election is over and McCain has no one but himself to blame for the loss.

To prove he's got his finger on the nation's pulse, McCain will return Tuesday's debate to THE main issues of our time:

1. The flag pin
2. The Wasilla Chamber of Commerce
and 3. The right to carry pistols in public schools

**Expert commentary for the day overhead in the Mug Shot Saloon: "Dagnab varmints is eatin' my hides!"

Expert rebuttal also overheard in the Mug Shot:
"If yer' so big on civilization why don't ye jus' git on back to it."

The only thing I would say would help McCain would be to stay away from all the non-issue personal attacks on Obama. As far as the issues that are relevant he needs to stay focused on HIS plans for our future.....nothing more, nothing less. I don't see any "knockout punches" in his arsenal.
Obama has this one locked down if he does the same though.

I don't know how well McCain will be able to hold on since I thought the first Presidential debate was a tie. At this point I am not sure a change in scenery/getting him out from behind a podium is going to help since he didn't appear to have an upper hand in his debate on foreign policy.

McCain should make a quick comment about Ayers just to see how Obama stammers.

Maybe someone in the audience will bring it up first.

For those who don't have a TV, and aren't using Microsoft Windows, here is a link to C-SPAN so you can view the debate real-time with free streamer software. The main C-SPAN page is broken, it assumes one would want to use 'Window Media Player' or 'RealPlayer'.

C-SPAN Live Stream

Also, here are direct links for CSPAN2 and CSPAN3:

C-SPAN2 Live Stream
C-SPAN3 Live Stream

I’m really curious about the questions people will ask. I hope someone brings up an issue or two we have debated here at ATS.

reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage

I’m really curious about the questions people will ask. I hope someone brings up an issue or two we have debated here at ATS.

Greys: Malevolent or Benevolent???

Originally posted by davion
I don't know how well McCain will be able to hold on since I thought the first Presidential debate was a tie. At this point I am not sure a change in scenery/getting him out from behind a podium is going to help since he didn't appear to have an upper hand in his debate on foreign policy.

I dont agree, but I will say I believe it was close in terms of the first debate.

I will not go as far as saying McCain is desperate, but I will say he really doesn't have much to lose by saying something extreme tonight. I think hes willing to take the risks that his campaign people told him to avoid. We will see a bold and confident McCain tonight. At least that's what I'm hoping for.

Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
I’m really curious about the questions people will ask. I hope someone brings up an issue or two we have debated here at ATS.

They won't.

It'll be scripted and carefully moderated.

They aren't going to invite the American public in, or allow them to ask just any sort of questions. They cherry pick the audience and the questions are scripted and approved by either side.

You can tell because you're going to see audience members standing up and generally gushing about one side or the other before asking their question, as a sort of way to drive home a bullet point or give a shout out to a target demographic.

Originally posted by Grafilthy
reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage

 

Greys: Malevolent or Benevolent???

I was thinking more along the lines of, “What do you think of the media bias toward you?” or some Ron Paul questions…

[edit on 7-10-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

Originally posted by AndrewTB
I dont agree, but I will say I believe it was close in terms of the first debate.

I will not go as far as saying McCain is desperate, but I will say he really doesn't have much to lose by saying something extreme tonight. I think hes willing to take the risks that his campaign people told him to avoid. We will see a bold and confident McCain tonight. At least that's what I'm hoping for.

The problem with that is the American people have made it pretty clear that they are tired of trash talking and dirt slinging.

I agree that he probably doesn't have much to lose, his campaign seems to have one foot in the grave at this point, but the dirt slinging was going on long before this between Obama and Hillary and it didn't phase him and I doubt it will phase him this time either.

Maybe McCain can get some kind of reaction out of Obama if he says something below the belt, but I think that will just play up to the views of McCain being an angry and short tempered person whose campaign is slipping, which some people inferred from the previous debate.

If any candidate actually addressed disclosure in a meangful way...

I have to admit my vote would be instantly swayed

If it's anything like the last debate I will have to drink lots and lots of coffee to even stay awake !

I want to see the real issues and the real McCain and Obama debate.

Is it too much to ask these men to be human and show emotion and foresight and thoughtfulness when debating and applying for the most important position in the country?

Enough robotic script reading and memorized answers. Let's get the gloves off and see what these men are really made of.

*fingers crossed*

Here's the scenario:

Obama has surged in the polls in the past week. Why? Because he has successfully linked McCain with Bush and with the economic meltdown in the US.

It, is, of course, wrong, but the masses are asses and do not realize that this started with the Clinton administration and has festered and finally boiled over with the direct efforts of the Democrats.

The culprits are/were Obama, Dodd, Frank, Raines, Schumer, Gorelick, Johnson, et al. But the American public is too busy worrying about how they will pay *last month's* bills that they do not have the time or energy to follow the trail.

McCain needs to lay out the Trail of Destruction plainly and clearly. Tie Obama into it as the second largest recipient of Fannie Mae donations, behind Chris Dodd. Tie Franklyn Raines in as the recipient of over $90 Million from Fannie Mae and his role as Obama's advisor.

Continually expose Obama's close ties with William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist that launched Obama's career in his living room, and who funneled millions of dollars thru Obama as the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, to radical extremists and organizations such as ACORN.

Point out the fact that History is Prologue. Obama.

So the most important question able to be asked tonight is the same question that was the most important last week.

What are the "Great Debate Drinking Game" rules for the night?

Originally posted by jsobecky
Here's the scenario:

Obama has surged in the polls in the past week. Why? Because he has successfully linked McCain with Bush and with the economic meltdown in the US.

It, is, of course, wrong, but the masses are asses and do not realize that this started with the Clinton administration and has festered and finally boiled over with the direct efforts of the Democrats.

The culprits are/were Obama, Dodd, Frank, Raines, Schumer, Gorelick, Johnson, et al. But the American public is too busy worrying about how they will pay *last month's* bills that they do not have the time or energy to follow the trail.

McCain needs to lay out the Trail of Destruction plainly and clearly. Tie Obama into it as the second largest recipient of Fannie Mae donations, behind Chris Dodd. Tie Franklyn Raines in as the recipient of over $90 Million from Fannie Mae and his role as Obama's advisor.

Continually expose Obama's close ties with William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist that launched Obama's career in his living room, and who funneled millions of dollars thru Obama as the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, to radical extremists and organizations such as ACORN.

Point out the fact that History is Prologue. Obama.

Ok, it's obviouse this ayers guy has radical views. Why is he not in prison for what he did or what he says by way of the patriot act?