No one I know is talking about the economic situation

I just assumed once the stock market plunges and collapsing economy made it to the mainstream news, people would get nervous/angry and it would be a big point of discussion.

NO ONE at my college has brought it up. Occasionally, I'll mention it, and will get a minimal reply - the most common replys being disinterest or stating that it's just part the economic cycle.

No one at my college seems to think this may not be just part of the cycle or is concerned about riots or martial law. A few laughed off the possibility of riots when I mentioned it.

I guess my question is - Why?

Maybe some old timers here know what I'm going through - there seems to be such a huge difference in opinion between here and "real life".

It's not like the people I know are all nervous and worrying or angry - no one seems to care at all about the economy, much less the possibility of Martial Law. So, is the NWO plot not working as planned (making people nervous and inciting riots)? Is this just the difference between conspicacy therorists and the general populus?

(I found this site becasue of a search that led me to the paranormal studies forum. I am a novice concpiracy theorist - I read abotu them, but I'm not really a believer or skeptic, just sort of open and not really knowing what to think).

You think pissing people off would be a good way to gain a lot of power? You tell them "hey, it's ok, there's this problem but I'll take care of it for you no need to worry" and it's a done deal. You do your real work behind the scenes and don't worry people.

The only people who really get worried are often paranoid (myself included) about a lot of other things and it just makes us not credible when talking about this stuff. I remember the first time I said anything about the school system being a meat machine to make us into good factory working drones, lol fun getting laughed at isn't it?

But yeah about the crisis, same. My dad will talk about it, he's not worried and I trust him he generally has a pretty good idea of what's going on. My girlfriend is concerned about the whole thing, she's not quite as paranoid as myself. But that's about it...Most of my friends will listen but they haven't been paying attention to the day to day themselves. Feels good to be informed.

I am also in college and every time I've tried to bring it up, even in my economics class, everyone who spoke up said nothing more than "oh the bailout will go through we have nothing to worry about" or "it's just how things work." The only people I've managed to discuss this with in the real world are my roommates and family!

I guess us college-folk, or the average college-folk, just don't care unless it directly is affecting them. We are the generation of lazy selfishness!

As far as the more out-there conspiracies (at least to the "normal" every-day citizens) I have only discussed very small possibilities with my parents, such as 'maybe the government doesn't really care about the people, after all'...just to warm them up for the big stuff one day

I feel your frustration though!

thanks for the replies.

It's weird, I feel kind of torn & don't really know what to believe. Maybe that's the point, just be open till you really see it go one way or the other.

"My dad will talk about it, he's not worried and I trust him he generally has a pretty good idea of what's going on."

It's sort of the same with my dad. Sometimes he's open to hearing some of my more "out there" (conspiracy) concerns sometimes he's not, I kind of have to feel it out. But I did get a chance to talk briefly about some of this and he feels the same; he's not really worried.

I think alot of worry stems from the general negativity of ATS. There are many posts and threads which talk of end-times and all these dramatically horrible events and suspicions which other people don't get with in their everyday life. If you're around enough anxiety you tend to become anxious, or at least that's how I see it.

my gf is clueless about it. i try to inform her of what's going on in the world but she really just plain doesn't care. she's generally too concerned with what so and so said about whoodeewhat and then this other girl said, "oh no, imma beat yo @$&!"

yeah

lol

i think a lot of it comes down to most people are just far more concerned with their own lives to see how outside forces could influence them.

reply to post by Dark Realms


You're in college, the youth don't give a shet. I really started waking up my senior year in college WAY back in 1995. Your fellow classmates aren't concerned because it really doesn't effect them. The kids are no different from when I was in college. Dumb, young and full of you know what. I was a stellar football player back in the day so I know what I'm talking about.

The system is set up in a way where you are indoctrinated into believing in this make believe disneyland type of place. I even believed it. It took a big jolt to make me wake up.

Unfortunately the vast majority of your peers will never wake up. They have enough TV and internet to keep them busy. In my college days I used to watch Seinfeld and Martin. Now you got all the reality TV mess. It just gets worse.

I wish you the best of luck.

I did notice that, last week, noone I knew wanted to talk about it. They either didn't know and didn't care, or they said the bailout would pass and everything would be as normal. (As in, give them their money and they will stop whining).
This week however, big difference. Everyone is talking about it, and they are all hoping it will pass...otherwise our economy will be utterly destroyed. (Not my words) The difference you ask????? Good question. I am not totally sure, but I do know that I live in a very religious area, and they all went to church and herd the word there that they should be concerned and they should want the "rescue". It went from a bailout to a "rescue".

Just a thought. I try not to be too dilusional, but sometimes I just can't help it!

Tonedeef: Whether people hear it through the biased media or the biased pastor at the pulpit, lack of individual research is the underlying cause of most, if not all, of the problems both in America and in the world. I don't think that it's delusional at all to see that people's opinions are easily swayed one way or another by someone who is respected. Quite the contrary, it's delusional to think that every one of them all of a sudden did their own research and came to the same conclusions on their own!

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I agree, sometimes when I lurk around on boards like this I have to step back and breathe. Go outside and play some guitar. It gets really tense really fast, but I'll be worried when there's nobody around to act paranoid. That's when you're really F'd.

It's not just the youth who don't care, my girlfriend's mom was arguing about the patriot act, insider trading, you know the whole lot of things with my gf and basically it came down to her mom saying
"I'm not doing anything wrong, so it doesn't effect me, so why should I care"

Her mom's in her 40's or 50's it's not just the youth.

I think we're actually one of the more informed generations in some ways, in other ways not so much. Just depends on the crowd you're around.


I won't be worried until I can see it hitting the fan beyond the shadow of a doubt. That means either the amero, or the military in the streets.

Alexander_Supertramp, thank you for the kind words. I just find it odd that, well most of the people I know are intelligent people in many ways...but they seem to blindly follow what the church tells them. They don't seem to do that in their daily business or personal lives, but in a situation like this, where it has a pretty big affect on the whole of the country and beyond, they just don't want to think about it. Same thing with the Patriot act and homeland security. All I heard from the herd was"Well if I am doing nothing wrong then it doesn't affect me". They don't seem to care at all about losing a freedom that was hard fought for and will be hard fought for to win back again and that just astounds me. It is a lot of energy put out there when the entire "flock" all believe in the same thing that way.

LOL Mr. Headshot......better to be lurking here than to be surfing porn too much!

Well things have certainly changed since I was in college in the early seventies. Oh Yeah it was the "me generation" of the eighties, Ronald Reagan and the greed is good philosophy. It doesn't concern me, it is the end times and I will get to go with Jesus. Your friends must be the spawn of those people.

reply to post by hypervigilant


Hi Hyper, these are not so much friends, but people that I work with.

It's the same for me at work really. I'm known as the office conspiracy theorist aka a nutter. The general attitude here is that the government will make everything ok.

Bring up football or X Factor and everyone has an opinion.

This is a sign of our times though and frankly the less people are aware and the less people prepare the more likely I am to prosper in bad times. I won't be sharing my beef jerky with my co workers who won't be able to eat their Ipods.

Thankfully my partner and family ARE aware and DO listen and that's all I really care about.

People have become too numb, especially since september 11th and the subconscious worry that something really bad is going to happen any day now because the terror alert is always like orange and red (I haven't seen much about the terror alert lately). Yeah, basically people have been completely subtly traumatized into a complete disassociation with critical thinking unless it pertains to "how do I survive the things I can see coming at me right now?".
Even then, it's only as critical as they've been made aware of. It's almost like people have lost their souls, and are just the walking living dead, unable to think outside of eating each other alive just to survuve... metaphorically speaking. We've allowed ourselves to become programmed into glorified savage beasts, incapable of rational and abstract thought (for the most part).

My best advice would be not to do anything until the time comes where it feels right for you to act or speak... because you may only be harming yourself by forcing truth on people who aren't ready for it. I often find myself just feeling jaded and stupid after attempting to have an open minded discussion with someone who isn't of that mindset. I've literally lost almost all of my friends because I only wanted to talk about important things, while all they wanted to do was talk about other people's business and very trivial things. It's amazing how trivial most friendships are when you really think about it. Its a reflection of society as a whole. We hold the trivial sacred and condemn or at least forget about the things that matter the most.

Thats what you call being in the dream state that is the west. Consumerism, is just a mental ollness, which has gone amoke.

Tom hanks said it best on hardball a while back. He said if there was no rioting back in 2000, i doubt anything will awaken the american people. He seemed to be laughing about the americans are just asleep, and so apathetic to anything other than buying goods, lol.

Most college students are in their late teens, twenties, which is a self centered time, so it kind of makes sense. However, its also an idealistic time, so I would expect more. For all the talk and expectations reggarding the Indigo generation, it seems that most are intellectually self arrested and pretty unaware of reality, except how it affects their small circle. Time to wake up!

reply to post by andy1033


I as a soul know there is nothing I can do except offer my opinion when the chance arises.... but I as a human animal want to clock many many people upside the head with their own inflated egos. Stupid is as stupid does.

Just accept that brave new world, already exists in the western culture. Its how you guys deal with it, thats how you will devine what you do in the future. Like tom hanks laughed about, americans are so asleep, nothing would wake them up, so i do not not care.

For the person that made this thread, go read brave new world. Then look at things like mobile phones, drugs in the water, etc.... That answers you question.