McCain Suspends Campaign To Help With Financial Crisis

Originally posted by intelgurl
This is a brilliant move on McCain's part.
If Obama goes back to Washington too, he is a "follower", not a leader.
If Obama stays on the campaign trail, he could be seen as not caring as much for the country as for becoming president.
And the debate that will be postponed is the foreign policy debate which is McCain's strongpoint - thus further making McCain appear to sacrifice for the country.

Brilliant strategy... absolutely brilliant.

Brilliant manipulation yes.

These political games is what you want to see?...

Originally posted by loam
reply to post by SectionEight

 

Originally posted by SectionEight
McCain continually defies the angry left logic that the media pumps into the daily airwaves.

I hardly think I can be accused of employing 'angry left logic'.

Looking un-presidential was not an issue in any of the former examples. On this one he does.

You are indeed employing their logic.

Obama's answer in soundbites so far?
"Multitasking" and "we both got big airplanes".

How many seniors in Florida give a hoot or even know what multitasking is? It to them sounds like you are not giving 100% attention to their problem like they expect. This younger generation terminology is going to cost Obama a lot of votes in swing states. Peoples entire life savings are at risk, but with a young voter mentallity that Obama is displaying he is alienating the most reliable voter base in the land, the seniors and those about to retire. They come in both flavors Dem and Repub.

I do not see Obama winning any new votes here at all. McCain's move is brilliant.

reply to post by SectionEight


McCain's move is brilliant as has been other moves of his. If I didn't know any better, my vote would be with him.

Originally posted by justamomma
reply to post by SectionEight

 

McCain's move is brilliant as has been other moves of his. If I didn't know any better, my vote would be with him.

Neither one intends to move diehard supporters with their strategies. You are obviously a diehard Obama supporter.
If Obama dumped Biden for Clinton before the Palin debate I would say it was a brilliant move by Obama but still wouldn't vote for him.

reply to post by skyshow


Yes your right there is always 2 sides to the coin and i am still digging to get the full truth as to why we are in this mess!

I'm still looking for the bill that Bush tried to get passed to add more regulation on the housing markets and why it wasn't acted on. But not having it in my hand to see just what his proposal was and why it was rejected my guess and it is a guess is the bill split between party lines.

To answer your question about Reagan not doing anything about it well why does congress and the president wait until there is a crisis to try and do anything that would help the taxpayers?

The same could be said for this situation. They knew in 1999 that this could happen by passing the bill. then 6 months ago they KNEW this was going to happen. why did they wait until last week to say something after the chairman of the fed told Congress they have 7 days to get something into place to stop the collapse of the U.S. economy.

The answer to both situations is the president and congress will not act on anything important unless it is a crisis so they can spin it for their political gain.

And your right this is kind of distracting from the OP.

I really don't know what to take on the OP either McCain really cares about us and is putting the country first or he is just up to politics as usual

But what is clear is Obama is up to politics as usual. he wants the debate friday even though fixing the economy so it don't collapse is more important than a debate that can be rescheduled.

Maybe Obama thinks we can reschedule the economic collapse that is coming until after the election.

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I only wish the average Joe had the same discerning eyes

Why on this good green Earth would anyone want a President who can't multitask? What can McCain be during on the Hill at 9:00pm on a friday night? This is typical of the McCain camp! Palin has only given two interviews since being selected the VP. What are they thinking? Do they actually believe that they can duck and dodge the media until election day? This is exactly why I'm voting for Obama and Biden in November they are the only ones speaking to the public about the real issues we are facing.

It sounds as if he has no intention of having ANY debates with the comment on CBS news interview "...whether we have the debates or not". Key words "or not".

Then Palin has her feet held over the fire by Couric (tongue in cheek...remember the Limbaugh interview on her first night?) asking her to provide evidence from McCain's past 26 years (in congress mostly on the record of having supported deregulation) when asked to provide any evidence that would suggest he was for regulation. What does Palin say? She says "how about I go and find some and then bring it to ya'".

There's America's two finist let me tell you, hard at work. Wow! Nobody would have ever believed this pre-Bush even if it was made into a Hollywood blockbuster. Every day the bar moves. Unbelievable!

reply to post by SectionEight


We shall see.

I doubt it though. Let's visit this thread a week from now.

Originally posted by SectionEightYou are obviously a diehard Obama supporter.

Your attempt to call my political standing is cute . I would rather McCain make it into office than Obama any day. The way I see it, we will be screwed either way. The difference is McCain will only screw us 5 days a week whereas Obama would screw us 24/7.

Edited to add: getting screwed 2 days less is still not enough to win my vote ... not that it matters on the larger scale, but to my conscience, it is enough.

[edit on 24-9-2008 by justamomma]

Obama and McCain Issue Joint Statement on the Economy

"The American people are facing a moment of economic crisis. No matter how this began, we all have a responsibility to work through it and restore confidence in our economy. The jobs, savings, and prosperity of the American people are at stake.

"Now is a time to come together - Democrats and Republicans - in a spirit of cooperation for the sake of the American people. The plan that has been submitted to Congress by the Bush Administration is flawed, but the effort to protect the American economy must not fail.

This is a time to rise above politics for the good of the country. We cannot risk an economic catastrophe. Now is our chance to come together to prove that Washington is once again capable of leading this country."

I think this pretty much takes the credit that McCain could have claimed of bipartisan work. It also shows that Sen. Obama can put politics aside.

Originally posted by justamomma

Originally posted by SectionEightYou are obviously a diehard Obama supporter.

Your attempt to call my political standing is cute

. I would rather McCain make it into office than Obama any day. The way I see it, we will be screwed either way. The difference is McCain will only screw us 5 days a week whereas Obama would screw us 24/7.

Edited to add: getting screwed 2 days less is still not enough to win my vote

... not that it matters on the larger scale, but to my conscience, it is enough.

[edit on 24-9-2008 by justamomma]

It's good to know there is still hope for you.

reply to post by SectionEight


I will admit to almost falling for McCain. One thing that gives me a shred of hope if he is voted in is that he was very loyal to his fellow military men when they were being held captive. That takes some great strength to remain in the hands of the enemies simply bc your men are there as well (and at that time, it was not done for political standing, but it was a decision based on values). That has not gone unnoticed in my book.

HOWEVER, his pick for VP is what swayed me back to putting my vote elsewhere (not obama). Morality of that sort does not bode well with me. I am well aware that if something happens to a president, the VP takes over and lets face it, if he could pick someone that MORAL, that says a lot about him.

I love values, but morals are a different story.



[edit on 24-9-2008 by justamomma]

McCain was ridiculed for the way he was running his campaign before the conventions, but it worked.

He was ridiculed for picking Palin, but it worked so far.

Now he is ridiculed for doing his job, only time will tell if this works.

reply to post by jam321


it worked so far? I think not..

latest polls....polls

NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 09/19 - 09/22 1085 RV 48 46 Obama +2
ABC News/Wash Post 09/19 - 09/22 780 LV 52 43 Obama +9
LA Times/Bloomberg 09/19 - 09/22 838 LV 49 45 Obama +4
FOX News 09/22 - 09/23 900 RV 45 39 Obama +6
Gallup Tracking 09/21 - 09/23 2740 RV 47 44 Obama +3
Rasmussen Tracking 09/21 - 09/23 3000 LV 49 47 Obama +2
Hotline/FD Tracking 09/21 - 09/23 903 RV 48 42 Obama +6
CNN/Opinion Research 09/19 - 09/21 697 LV 51 47 Obama +4


Fair to say that the palin effect dwindled. So no, worked would not be the word I would use jam.

I'm sure that John McCain's desire to "postpone" Friday's debate has nothing to do with the fact that he's been crashing in the polls and has looked like a complete failure the past few weeks. Even Mrs Palin's approval numbers have been tanking. In fact, she is now the one out of the four candidates that has the lowest approval ratings. Things are clearly falling apart over at Team McCain.

Presidents really ought to be able to do more than one thing at a time. I think he can take 2.5 hours out of his busy schedule of rescuing bankers to stand up and talk to the American people and debate his opponent. When there's a crisis of this magnitude, the last thing a President, or someone presidential ought to do is start jumping off a cliff. "Postpone the presidential debates"? If McCain were ahead, and had momentum, do you think he'd be postponing debates.

Most important, the man has not shown up for a single vote in the Senate since April. All of a sudden he's gotten a sense of civic duty? Naaah.

Personally, I think there's something more going on. He has not been looking good lately. Stumbling on words, one eye drooping. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some medical reason for the postponed debate.

Maybe the guy did something that took guts 40 years ago. Life changes people, politics changes people, the Keating Five scandal changes people.

There is more to this story, and it's not going to go away.

Bush and Obama just saved McCain's bacon!!!

This is effectively a non-issue now.



Worse than a ping pong match.

McCain's move is brilliant? Come on guys... You're not that dumb are you

As a voter I'm appalled by this. We're in the midst of a crisis, YES, but there are more than enough smart people already in Washington working on the issue. What in God's name is McCain going to do now, that's not being done already!?

He's in the middle of running for our next friggin President, one that our country desperately needs, maybe the most important election in decades, and he just bails on his campaign right when we're getting closer to election time!? Just before a key debate!?

Are you kidding me! This is why I despise politics in this country. All these stupid games and no one ever addresses the issues. They're always F'ng with the American people. First Palin and now this. This guys should not be our next president.

My vote is going for Obama. To me McCain sealed his fate. He's not worthy of being a president.

Hold on to your (tinfoil ) hats people.

Good luck

reply to post by loam


These are weird times indeed, I dont even know what to think anymore. Sen. McCain or Sen. Obama dont seem to have a grasp of the situation, neither of them give me the confidence that they know what is the path ahead.

I guess the only people laughing now are Ron Paul supporters, GOSH! that seems like a good fit right now.

reply to post by Bunch

Sen. McCain or Sen. Obama dont seem to have a grasp of the situation, neither of them give me the confidence that they know what is the path ahead.

Honesty at its best. I couldn't agree more. Both are listening too much to those advisors instead of doing the right thing.