What's wrong with JFK?

Just so you know....
On the night before JFK was shot, his secret service detail was totally drunk. For those of you who are not aware of protocol, this is a big NO.
16 out of the 19 "material witnesses" that the FBI identified after the slaying quietly disappeared within ten years after the shooting.
It is almost impossible to fire three or four shots from a bolt-action rifle, and hit a moving target that is six stories below you in the head. Even marine marksmen rarely are this lucky. And Oswald was very nervous...if he did it. Seems kind of unlikely that he actually could have done this
Secret Service men broke into a hospital right after the shooting, pointing submachine guns and pistols at everyone, telling them to make room for the president.
When JFK's limo drove past the Dallas Book Depository building, the Secret Service man driving slowed down for the fatal shots, glanced back, and sped up the second the president was struck in the skull.
In the Zapruder film, JFK's skull looks like the exit wound is in back, and not in front. The presidential motorcade was well past the Book Depository when the fatal shots were fired.
This all might just be a sick coincidence...maybe....
Oh yeah, why did it take so long for the federal government to rerelease the Zaprueder film.

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This is the Zapruder film blow up which concentrates on the Limo. Slow-motion frame by frame count. Watch frames 308 - 318 and keep your eye on the Limo driver. Sure looks like a gun pointed right at Kennedy. Maybe this will tell you what you need to know.

Do you have sources? That helps.

I've always wondered why Jaqueline was so keen to get out of the car. Sure, it could be to just get the hell out of there, but it could well be because she saw something in the car she wanted to get away from.

Originally posted by ChChKiwi
I've always wondered why Jaqueline was so keen to get out of the car. Sure, it could be to just get the hell out of there, but it could well be because she saw something in the car she wanted to get away from.

I agree completely. If he was shot from a distance I would ASSUME Jacqueline would be in shock from what happened to JFK. I'd assume she'd be sitting there on shock and not trying to dive from the back of the car as if she's trying to get away from the actual shooter......think about it, the secret service were supposed to protect her and her husband and they just murdered him in front of her...who the hell is she going to trust at the moment??? Nobody, it was instinct to get the hell away.


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Maybe a little more evidence. The secret service call off.

Sorry but there have been many studies and re-inactments that show that not only was it easy to make the shots.....that it is also easy to duplicate.


Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? I have. The distance involved really wasn't that great.

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something isnt right about this.

in the seconds before, jfk stops moving and leans forwards,he stays in the same motionless posture for a few seconds,

his wife also holds his arm and appears to stop him from moving and encourages him to lean forward.

the deputy driver also turns round to talk to him which makes him lean forward aswell.

something aint right , he was motionless for to long,somehow he knew what was coming.

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That's what I'm sayin'. Why weren't the agents standing on the bumper like they were supposed to?

Originally posted by aceace
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This is the Zapruder film blow up which concentrates on the Limo. Slow-motion frame by frame count. Watch frames 308 - 318 and keep your eye on the Limo driver. Sure looks like a gun pointed right at Kennedy. Maybe this will tell you what you need to know.

take a real close look.. its better to see in a repetitive animated gif..
his left arm does not appear to be raised, and what looks like a gun is clearly just the light reflection off of the head of the front seat passenger.. also, if you think about it, the angle for the shot would be wrong.. left handed shot while turning halfway around hitting the right side (to the rear) of Kennedy's head.. speculation the shot came from the front.. is most likely correct.. but it was not the driver.. Cooper got it wrong too.. there are better copies out there to view.. this is the best I could find for now..

Originally posted by jackinthebox
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That's what I'm sayin'. Why weren't the agents standing on the bumper like they were supposed to?

How do you know they were meant to be standing on the bumper?

As for Jacky's response I think people are going to react differently in that situation. Her instinct was to flee the situation. The agents then appear to instruct her to stay in the car which she does. Had the shooter been the driver I doubt she would have listened to the agents.

As for the driver being the shooter it is clear that the "gun" he points is just light reflecting off the front seat passengers head.

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How do you know they were meant to be standing on the bumper?

Because the limo was specifically designed to have agents standing on the bumper for one. And two, the agents that were assigned to be standing on the bumper, when they were not running alongside the limo, were called off, as seen in the video evidence already presented.

here is a list of people who died assosciated with the jfk assassination.

11/63 karyn kupcinet* tv host's daughter overheard murdered
telling of jfk's death prior
to 11/22/63

12/63 jack zangretti* expressed foreknowlege of gunshot victim
ruby shooting oswald

2/64 eddy benavides* look-alike brother to gunshot to head
tippit shooting witness,
domingo benavides

2/64 betty mcdonald* former ruby employee who suicide by hanging
alibied warren reynolds in dallas jail
shooting suspect

3/64 bill chesher thought to have information heart attack
linking oswald and ruby

3/64 hank killam* husband of ruby employee, throat cut
knew oswald acquaintance

4/64 bill hunter* reporter who was in ruby's accidental shooting
apartment on 11/24/63 by policeman

5/64 gary underhill* cia agent who claimed agency gunshot in head ruled
was involved suicide

5/64 hugh ward* private investigator working plane crash in mexico
with guy bannister and david
ferrie

5/64 delesseps * new orleans mayor passenger in ward's
morrison plane

8/64 teresa norton* ruby employee fatally shot

6/64 guy banister* ex-fbi agent in new orleans heart attack
connected to ferrie, cia,
carlos marcello, oswald

9/64 jim koethe* reporter who was in ruby's blow to neck
apartment on 11/24/63

9/64 c.d.jackson life mag senior vp who unknown
bought zapruder film and
locked it away

10/64 mary pinchot* jfk mistress whose diary murdered
meyer was taken by cia chief
james angleton after her
death

1/65 paul mandal life writer who told of jfk cancer
turning to rear when shot in
throat

3/65 tom howard* ruby's first lawyer, was in heart attack
ruby's apartment on 11/24/63

5/65 maurice gatlin* pilot for guy banister fatal fall

8/65 mona b. saenz* texas employment clerk who hit by dallas bus
interviewed oswald

?/65 david goldstein dallasite who helped fbi trace natural causes
oswald's pistol

9/65 rose cheramie* knew of assassination in hit/run victim
advance, told of riding to
dallas with cubans

11/65 dorothy * columnist who had private drug overdose
kilgallen interview with ruby, pledged
to "break jfk case"

11/65 mrs earl smith* close friend to dorothy kil- unknown
gallen, died two days after
columnist, may have kept notes

12/65 william whaley* cab driver who reportedly drove motor collision (the
oswald to oak cliff only dallas taxi driver
to die on duty

1966 judge joe brown presided over ruby's trial heart attack

1966 karen "little ruby employee who last talked gunshot victim
lynn" carlin* with ruby before oswald
shooting

1/66 earline roberts oswald's landlady heart attack

2/66 albert bogard* car salesman who said oswald suicide
test drove new car

6/66 capt. frank dallas police captain who cancer
martin witnessed oswald slaying, told
warren commission, "there's
alot to be said but probably
be better if i don't say it."

8/66 lee bowers,jr.* witnessed man behind picket motor accident
fence on grassy knoll

9/66 marilyn ruby dancer shot by husband
"delilah"* after one month
walle of marriage

10/66 william pitzer* jfk autopsy photographer who gunshot, ruled
described his duty as a suicide
"horrifying experience"

11/66 jimmy levens fort worth nightclub owner natural causes
who hired ruby employees

11/66 james worrell* saw man flee rear of texas motor accident
schoolbook depository

1966 clarence oliver d.a. investigator who worked unknown
ruby case.

12/66 hank suydam life mag official in charge heart attack
of jfk stories

Marrs List of "Mystery Deaths"


The Garrison Inquiry

date name connection with case cause of death
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1967 Leonard Pullin civilian navy employee who one-car crash
helped film "last two days"
about assassination

1/67 jack ruby* oswald's slayer lung cancer (he told
family he was injected
with cancer cells)

2/67 harold russell* saw escape of tippit killer killed by cop in
barroom brawl

2/67 david ferrie* acquaintance of oswald, blow to neck, ruled
garrison suspect, employee accidental
of guy bannister

2/67 eladio del anti-castro cuban associate gunshot wound, ax wound
valle * of david ferrie being sought to head
by garrison

3/67 dr. mary ferrie associate working on died in fire, possibly
sherman * cancer research shot

1/68 a.d. bowie asst dallas d.a. prosecuting cancer
ruby

4/68 hiram ingram dallas deputy sheriff, close cancer
friend to roger craig

5/68 dr. nicholas new orleans coroner who ruled heart attack
chetta on death of ferrie

8/68 philip geraci* friend of perry russo, told electrocution
of oswald/shaw conversation

1/69 henry delaune* brother-in-law to coroner chetta murdered

1/69 e.r. walthers* dallas deputy sheriff who was shot by felon
involved in depository search,
claimed to have found .45
caliber slug

1969 charles filmed rifle other than heart attack
mantesana mannlicher-carcano being taken
from depository

4/69 mary bledsoe neighbor to oswald, also new natural causes
ferrie

4/69 john crawford* close friend to both ruby and crash of private plane
wesley frazier, who gave ride
to oswald on 11/22/63

7/69 rev. clyde scheduled to testify about clay fatally shot
johnson * shaw oswald connection

1970 george mcmann* underworld figure connected murdered
to ruby's friends; wife took
film in dealey plaza

1/70 darrel garner arrested for shooting warren drug overdose
reynolds, released after
alibi from betty mcdonald

8/70 bill decker dallas sheriff who saw bullet natural causes
hit street in front of jfk

8/70 abraham took famous film of jfk assass, natural causes
zapruder

12/70 salvatore mobster linked to hoffa, murdered
granello* trafficante,castro assassination
plots

1971 james plumeri* mobster tied to mob-cia murdered
assassination plots

3/71 clayton fowler ruby's chief defense atty. unknown

4/71 gen. charles cia deputy director connected collapsed and died
cabell * to anti-castro cubans after physical at
fort myers

Marrs List of "Mystery Deaths"

The Church Committee Investigation

date name connection to case cause of death
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

1972 hale boggs* house majority leader, member disappeared on alaskan
of warren commission who began plane flight
to publicly express doubts
about findings

5/72 j edgar hoover* fbi director who pushed "lone heart attack (no
assassin" theory autopsy)

9/73 thomas davis* gun runner connected to both electrocuted trying
ruby and cia to steal wire

2/74 j.a. milteer* miami right-winger who heater explosion
predicted jfk's death and
capture of scapegoat to a
police informant

1974 dave yaras* close friend to both Hoffa murdered
and jack ruby

7/74 earl warren chief justice who reluctantly heart failure
chaired warren commission

8/74 clay shaw* prime suspect in garrison possible cancer
case, reportedly a cia
contact with ferrie and
e. howard hunt

1974 earle cabell mayor of dallas on 11/22/63 natural causes
whose brother, gen charles
cabell, was fired from cia
by jfk

6/75 sam giancana* chicago mafia boss slated to murdered
tell about cia-mob death
plots to senate committee

1975 clyde tolson j edgar hoovers asst and natural causes
roommate

7/75 allan sweatt dallas deputy sheriff involved natural causes
in investigation

12/75 gen. earl contact between cia and jfk unknown
wheeler

1976 ralph paul ruby's business partner heart attack
connected with crime figures

4/76 dr. charles gov john connally's physician heart attack
gregory

6/76 william harvey* cia coordinator for cia-mob complications of
assassination plans against heart surgery
castro

7/76 john roselli* mobster who testified to stabbed and stuffed
senate, was to appear again in metal drum

Marrs List of "Mystery Deaths"


House Select Committee on Assassinations

date name connection with case cause of death
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1967 Leonard Pullin civilian navy employee who one-car crash
helped film "last two days"
about assassination

1/67 jack ruby* oswald's slayer lung cancer (he told
family he was injected
with cancer cells)

2/67 harold russell* saw escape of tippit killer killed by cop in
barroom brawl

2/67 david ferrie* acquaintance of oswald, blow to neck, ruled
garrison suspect, employee accidental
of guy bannister

2/67 eladio del anti-castro cuban associate gunshot wound, ax wound
valle * of david ferrie being sought to head
by garrison

3/67 dr. mary ferrie associate working on died in fire, possibly
sherman * cancer research shot

1/68 a.d. bowie asst dallas d.a. prosecuting cancer
ruby

4/68 hiram ingram dallas deputy sheriff, close cancer
friend to roger craig

5/68 dr. nicholas new orleans coroner who ruled heart attack
chetta on death of ferrie

8/68 philip geraci* friend of perry russo, told electrocution
of oswald/shaw conversation

1/69 henry delaune* brother-in-law to coroner chetta murdered

1/69 e.r. walthers* dallas deputy sheriff who was shot by felon
involved in depository search,
claimed to have found .45
caliber slug

1969 charles filmed rifle other than heart attack
mantesana mannlicher-carcano being taken
from depository

4/69 mary bledsoe neighbor to oswald, also new natural causes
ferrie

4/69 john crawford* close friend to both ruby and crash of private plane
wesley frazier, who gave ride
to oswald on 11/22/63

7/69 rev. clyde scheduled to testify about clay fatally shot
johnson * shaw oswald connection

1970 george mcmann* underworld figure connected murdered
to ruby's friends; wife took
film in dealey plaza

1/70 darrel garner arrested for shooting warren drug overdose
reynolds, released after
alibi from betty mcdonald

8/70 bill decker dallas sheriff who saw bullet natural causes
hit street in front of jfk

8/70 abraham took famous film of jfk assass, natural causes
zapruder

12/70 salvatore mobster linked to hoffa, murdered
granello* trafficante,castro assassination
plots

1971 james plumeri* mobster tied to mob-cia murdered
assassination plots

3/71 clayton fowler ruby's chief defense atty. unknown

4/71 gen. charles cia deputy director connected collapsed and died
cabell * to anti-castro cubans after physical at
fort myers

Marrs List of "Mystery Deaths"

The Church Committee Investigation

date name connection to case cause of death
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

1972 hale boggs* house majority leader, member disappeared on alaskan
of warren commission who began plane flight
to publicly express doubts
about findings

5/72 j edgar hoover* fbi director who pushed "lone heart attack (no
assassin" theory autopsy)

9/73 thomas davis* gun runner connected to both electrocuted trying
ruby and cia to steal wire

2/74 j.a. milteer* miami right-winger who heater explosion
predicted jfk's death and
capture of scapegoat to a
police informant

1974 dave yaras* close friend to both Hoffa murdered
and jack ruby

7/74 earl warren chief justice who reluctantly heart failure
chaired warren commission

8/74 clay shaw* prime suspect in garrison possible cancer
case, reportedly a cia
contact with ferrie and
e. howard hunt

1974 earle cabell mayor of dallas on 11/22/63 natural causes
whose brother, gen charles
cabell, was fired from cia
by jfk

6/75 sam giancana* chicago mafia boss slated to murdered
tell about cia-mob death
plots to senate committee

1975 clyde tolson j edgar hoovers asst and natural causes
roommate

7/75 allan sweatt dallas deputy sheriff involved natural causes
in investigation

12/75 gen. earl contact between cia and jfk unknown
wheeler

1976 ralph paul ruby's business partner heart attack
connected with crime figures

4/76 dr. charles gov john connally's physician heart attack
gregory

6/76 william harvey* cia coordinator for cia-mob complications of
assassination plans against heart surgery
castro

7/76 john roselli* mobster who testified to stabbed and stuffed
senate, was to appear again in metal drum

Marrs List of "Mystery Deaths"


House Select Committee on Assassinations

date name connection with case cause of death
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1/77 william pawley* former brazilian embassador gunshot, ruled suicide
connected to anti-castro cubans
and crime figures

3/77 george * close friend to both oswald and gunshot wound, ruled
demohrenschildt bouvier family (jackie kennedy's suicide
parents), cia contract agent

3/77 carlos prio* formerly cuban president, gunshot wound, ruled
soccaras money man for anti-castro cubans suicide

3/77 paul raigorodsky business friend of george natural causes
demohrenschildt and wealthy
oilman

5/77 lou staples* dallas radio talk show host gunshot wound to head
who told friends he would ruled suicide
break assassination case

6/77 louis nichols former number-3 man in fbi heart attack
worked on jfk assassination

8/77 alan belmont fbi official who testified to "long illness"
warren commission

8/77 james cadigan fbi document expert who fall in home
testified to warren commission

8/77 joseph ayres* chief steward on jfk's air shooting accident
force one

8/77 francis powers* u-2 pilot downed in russia in helicopter crash (he
1960 reportedly ran out
of fuel

9/77 kenneth jfk's closest aide natural causes
o'donnell

10/77 donald kaylor fbi fingerprint chemist heart attack

10/77 j.m. english former head of fbi forensic heart attack
sciences laboratory

11/77 william former number-3 man in fbi, hunting accident
sullivan * headed division 5, counter-
espionage and domestic intelligence

1978 c.l. "lummie" dallas deputy sheriff who natural causes
lewis arrested mafia man braden in
dealey plaza

9/78 garland slack man who said oswald fired at unknown
his target at rifle range

1/79 bill lovelady depository employee said to complications from
be man in doorway in ap heart attack
photo

6/80 jesse curry dallas police chief at time of heart attack
assassination

6/80 dr. john psychiatrist who testified ruby heart attack, but pills
holbrook was not insane and notes found

1/81 marguerite mother of accused assassin cancer
oswald

10/81 frank watts chief felony prosecutor for natural causes
dallas d.a.

1/82 peter gregory original translator for marina natural causess
oswald and secret service

5/82 dr. james pathologist allowed to see jfk died while jogging,
weston autopsy material for hsca ruled natural causes

8/82 will griffin fbi agent who said oswald cancer
"definitely an informant"

10/82 w. marvin fbi official who helped natural causes
gheesling supervise jfk investigation

3/84 roy kellerman secret service agent in charge unknown
of jfk limousine

Marrs List of "Mystery Deaths"


Source: "Crossfire", Jim Marrs, Carroll and Graf, 1989.




rather large list isnt it?

we also have bobby kennedy and marilyn munroe killed.

bobby kennedy was killed by sirhan sirhan ,get a load of his diary entries...

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ILLUMINATI?!!?!?!?

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notice this entry

Let us do it Sirhan 88 417 477 8-413-477 ghattass ghattass[13] 8413477 8413477 about how much? it will cost. [edit] 3[14] God help me ... please help me. Salvo Salvo / Salvo Di Di Salvo Die S Salvo[15] [edit] 4[16] Black Magic Magic Black Magic ? 44 44 I am q[?]t 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

notice the numbers and the counting....counting is widely used method in hypnosis

Slowly begin counting out loud, backwards, starting with the number 100. Saying the words, deeper relaxed... And relax those numbers right out of your mind. (100 deeper relaxed) That's good. (99 deeper relaxed) That's fine. (98 deeper relaxed.) Now you can let those numbers grow dim and distant, they're not important. (97 deeper relaxed) And when you're ready just push them out. (96 deeper relaxed) Now push them on out, just tell them to leave and they will go. Just let them go... And let them be gone

his streams of consciousness are clearly a result of brainwashing,and get this...

Sirhan joined the occult Rosicrucian Order and Theosophical Society in early 1968, but he claims he does not remember reading anything about the Illuminati. He thought this reference might be connected to Manly Palmer Hall, founder of the Philosophical Research Society. A book by Hall was found in his car after the assassination. (Turner 1978, p. 224, 218)

he joined a freemason society that are assosciated heaviliy with the illuminati and the grays!!

and his notes mention Albert DeSalvo,

↑ Albert DeSalvo confessed to being the "Boston Strangler" under hypnosis. Conspiracy theorists claim DeSalvo's hypnotist, William Joseph Bryan, boasted of hypnotizing Sirhan Sirhan as well. Sirhan claims he does not remember anyone named Di Salvo. (Turner 1978, p. 227-228)

William Joseph Bryan, Jr. was a pioneering American hypnotist. He is famous for inducing Albert DeSalvo's confession to multiple homicide under hypnosis. He ran the American Institute of Hypnosis, edited his own journal, and created the Bryan method of hypnoanalysis. William Turner and Jonn Christian hypothesized in The Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy that Bryan was responsible for inducing Sirhan Sirhan to fire blanks at Robert F. Kennedy with posthypnotic suggestion.[1] Other conspiracy theorists have repeated this claim.

william bryan was also found dead prematurly,was he the one who conducted s s brainwashing?


and now for some more!

ronald raegan assassination attempt 16 days after he came into office with g bush as his vice president,who would have become president if rr had died.

The family of the man charged with trying to assassinate President Reagan is acquainted with the family of Vice President George Bush and had made large contributions to his political campaign....Scott Hinckley, brother of John W. Hinckley Jr. who allegedly shot at Reagan, was to have dined tonight in Denver at the home of Neil Bush, one of the Vice President's sons....The Houston Post said it was unable to reach Scott Hinckley, vice president of his father's Denver-based firm, Vanderbilt Energy Corp., for comment. Neil Bush lives in Denver, where he works for Standard Oil Co. of Indiana. In 1978, Neil Bush served as campaign manager for his brother, George W. Bush, the Vice President's eldest son, who made an unsuccessful bid for Congress. Neil lived in Lubbock, Texas, throughout much of 1978, where John Hinckley lived from 1974 through 1980.

its pretty obvious whats going on,isnt it?


oh and i forgot to mention oswald was killed by jack ruby,who himself strangly died just before he was about to testify,and this is what he had to say...

Everything pertaining to what's happening has never come to the surface. The world will never know the true facts of what occurred, my motives. The people who had so much to gain, and had such an ulterior motive for putting me in the position I'm in, will never let the true facts come above board to the world." When asked by a reporter: "Are these people in very high positions Jack?" he responded "Yes

[edit on 25-9-2008 by welivefortheson]

On a car/limo like that, is it normal to have the sun visors flipped up like that?

I know it's a convertible, so there is obviously the freedom to flip them up, but don't you normally flip them down so as to block the sun from being directly in your eyes?

Maybe the driver and front seat passenger flipped them up to block the line of sight towards their head? Heck, IF I knew what was about to happen, and I was mere feet from the target, I'd flip that visor up too, just to block a shooter's view of my head. "Nothing to see here, look behind me!"

The visors are flipped up even before the infamous secret service "call-off".

What angle was the sun at this time of day and year at the shooting? Would the sun visors even be needed to block the sun?

Originally posted by welivefortheson
something isnt right about this.

in the seconds before, jfk stops moving and leans forwards,he stays in the same motionless posture for a few seconds,

his wife also holds his arm and appears to stop him from moving and encourages him to lean forward.

the deputy driver also turns round to talk to him which makes him lean forward aswell.

something aint right , he was motionless for to long,somehow he knew what was coming.

he sits there motionless for a while because he has just been shot. Either throught the neck or the upper chest, i forget where (EDIT- looking at the gif above, it looks like he is holding the right side of his neck). This first shot is a through and through, and also hit one of the passengers (or 2 of them multple times if you believe the "magic bouncing bullet" theory) Jackie is unaware he is shot, but is checking he is ok. The driver turns around becuase, being secret service, possibly recognized the sound of the round passing through someones body. He may have even felt the impact of the round in the back of his seat or elsewhere. A few seconds later, the head shot occurs.

[edit on 26-9-2008 by johnDoe21]

This has Illuminati written all over it. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if this "public" assassination was just a way to scare the masses.

Think large scale indoctriniization, people. Look at what happened after this happened. The whole country was on a tailspin for the remainder of the decade and the lasting effects and we as a country will be forever marred.

Originally posted by ChChKiwi
I've always wondered why Jaqueline was so keen to get out of the car. Sure, it could be to just get the hell out of there, but it could well be because she saw something in the car she wanted to get away from.

Secret Service man Clint Hunt said she was reaching for a piece of JFK's skull...

Originally posted by Ranger23

Originally posted by ChChKiwi
I've always wondered why Jaqueline was so keen to get out of the car. Sure, it could be to just get the hell out of there, but it could well be because she saw something in the car she wanted to get away from.

Secret Service man Clint Hunt said she was reaching for a piece of JFK's skull...

yes i thought that too,you can clearly see her reach and grab something whilst on the rear,why would she do that?.

it also appears as if she puts whatever she grabs into her mouth,the legendary third bullet perhaps?

the thing is, she says she doesnt remember climbing onto the bonnet,like missing time ie when your being mind controled.