Nashville Gas Crisis Cover-Up

Walking in Memphis... Im just kidding... my g/f just drove from Chattanooga back to Memphis without any problems finding gas. While the price of gas is hitting record highs, it is still available. I heard rumor of some stations to the south having problems with tanker trucks arriving on time, but I believe this is more of a logistics issue.

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reply to post by mapsurfer_


well I am definitely south of Chattanooga. The cashier at the QT I went to today said it had something to do with the Refineries??? I had trouble understanding him though.

I do not see how Nashville could ever run out of gas. They have pipelines that go directly into the city. Multiple pipelines as well.

I use to live in Nashville and my dad worked at one of the plants. There is so much gas that goes through Nashville it's crazy. I've actually opened up the pipelines for delivery before, measured the amount of fuel in the large tanks(I was surprised how much temperature made a difference in the math), etc.

Those large tanks are those big white cylinders you often see in movies. They are huge.

The gas comes in from the pipeline, into big storage tanks. Then your 18 wheelers come in and buy the gas from the plants and deliver it to the gas stations. Nashville supplies a good bit of the area in question here.

As someone who has been inside those plants and been on top of those storage tanks it is mind boggling to me that they could be out of gas. They don't have to truck the gas in, they are directly connected to a pipeline.

I never did ask where the pipelines came in from. And I don't know exactly how often the shipments came in, but it seemed like a schedule of about every 2 weeks per tank. Each grade of gas gets it's own tank, some of them more than 1 tank like diesel(which i know from having to test the flash points of the diesel).

So I guess on the bright side is that once those pipelines open up again, Nashville should be the first to get more gas.

But wow this is surprising to me.

[edit on 22-9-2008 by badmedia]

[edit on 22-9-2008 by badmedia]

I live in Hendersonville, TN which is only about 15-20 minutes outside of nasvhille and i can confirm this i see people in lines at almost every gas station some just sitting there waiting for gas to arrive. My boss was so low on gas he had to leave work at the first word that there was gas close by because he was so low and no body had any. So, yeah it's true and you really aren't hearing much about it.
Edit- Just read through the thread i have also seen police having to man the gas stations becuase the lines were so long.

[edit on 22-9-2008 by FearfulButInterested]

Originally posted by MatrixBaller04
I'm in Jefferson City Tennessee...about 20 minutes northeast of Knoxville, and ...

I live about 20mins from you and its off and on here, a couple have gas, a couple don't but Kingsport is almost dry as well.

Cookeville Tn. Has gas. I don't think I've seen any of the many stations without it here since the hurricane hit Texas. It was bad the first night, but quickly resumed to normal within a day and a half. It's like 45-60 min drive from Nashville east ward on I-40. I filled both of my cars up @ $3.61 a gallon, figuring that the Nashville crowd would pounce upon the town and suck us dry ( if they can make it here.)

The tanker was refueling the station I went to while the attendant was pumping gas into both my cars. Can't beat that full service.

There is at least a 20 cent difference in price in Livingston, Tn. which is about 25 mins north though.

I'm in coastal NC. $3.95 a gallon. No lines, no limits, so far. A few days after Ike, there was a shortage of regular at a few places but it seems to be ok for now.

Madison, TN (10 minutes north of Nashville):

I probably drove by 5 gas stations (~6pm cst) on the way to the grocery store, all with plastic bags on the pump handles.

I have a hard time believing this was caused by fear. Our gas tanks (in our cars) will only hold so much gas and if someone was filling up out of fear, wouldn't they limit their trips? The news outlets make it sound like people are filling up just to wait in line at another gas station to fill up again. Perhaps everything will be rosy to tomorrow.

The Tennessean has a map with reported outages and available gas locations:
data.tennessean.com...

I live in East Tennessee and can tell you that it's only going to get worse. Last week it was Johnson City (about 30 miles from where I am and East of Knoxville) that was outta gas and the stations that still had it were pricing it near $5/gal. It was so bad in Johnson City(JC) - just the rumors from JC being outta gas and prices going to 5 bucks made prices spike to over 4 bucks here. It was crazy. You couldn't get anywhere near the pumps and by the end of the day our stations were running out of gas. Two days worth of crazy then BAM... back to normal like it had never happened. Nashville is the terminal for gas here in East TN... from there it goes to the Knoxville terminal where southern KY, East TN, parts of Virginia and North Carolina get gas from. If they are saying that stations are outta gas in the Knoxville area... then I would say that it won't be long before we in the Johnson City area are out again. Better fill up the car and as many gas cans as possible beforehand.

reply to post by Leroy


anyone aware of the multiple BLENDS,all kinds of blends REQUIRED according to the state's regulations set in place by the environmentals ?
and that the AVAILABILTY of the necessary components IS THE PROBLEM ?
remember there was a hurricane named IKE ?and pipelines were shut down ? little bit more involved than simply turning on a valve to get the line reopened.

contact the czarine pelosi and simply ask her WHY aren't we using our OWN NATURAL RESOURCES ?
and asK your own LOCAL representation why haven't they TEMPORARILY EASED UP on the "blends" ?

there is no GAS SHORTAGE. it's a demOgenic problem and the pelosi led CON-gress REFUSES to drill HERE AND NOW.
seeing NO GAS should be motivation enough to call the swithboard,ID yourself and politely speak your mind and call the local moronic representation and TELL THEM to suspend the blend.

Western NC here. Near Asheville. NO gas to be had today. Its been sporadic since last Friday (when Ike came ashore), but mostly nothing. Every few days a couple stations in town will get some gas, then the lines form, and its gone by the next day.From what I hear, it will be another week before things level out. Gas prices (when available) range from $3.99 to $4.29 per gallon. We've also got city cops and county sheriff's cars hanging at the places that do get gas briefly. Pretty bad right now. I've got a quarter tank, and I'm good for the next few days, but after that, who knows? Glad I bought a bike! Andy

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I consider water to be extremely ironic. It douses flames but if ignited after being separated into hydrogen and oxygen, and before recombining, its an explosive.

[edit on 22-9-2008 by GlassRunner]

we just drove back into Nashville from Northern Alabama. Nashville has become so calm since the panic....its almost like we have been given a gift of experience a little of what it will be like after the collapse of this system and people have responded by looking inward instead of running around and shopping...its really a good thing!

www.associatedcontent.com...

First of all, Atlanta gets virtually all gas from the Gulf and, as those who read the original Associated Content article about Nashville will know, 14 refineries in Texas and 3 in Louisiana were knocked off-line by Hurricane Ike. Knoxville, Tennessee, suffered initially, but is now back online. Then, Nashville reported people stocking up because of Hurricane Ike and long lines at stations with little or no gas. (85% of the Nashville stations reported no gas for sale.)....... Tex Pitfield, President of Saraguay Petroleum Corporation is quoted in the Atlanta Journal Constitution article as responding this way to queries: "It was a double whammy on top of low inventories. We are being resupplied, but it will be a slow procesan.s. It will take us weeks to recover." Weeks to recover. Doesn't sound good if your gas tank is running on empty.... On September 5th, the EPA lifted a ban on the kind of gas that can be sold in Atlanta. Apparently, due to the metro area's pollution problems, "winter gas" with higher sulfur levels is only allowed to be sold at certain times of year (I'm guessing "winter"). However, with no gas at all available, the EPA lifted that ban.

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One of the things we see here in Cal. is these EPA formulations being used as excuses at least twice a year for spot shortages and price increases due to the refining limitations and the logistics of the switch. This is awfully darn convenient how the supposed hands-off EPA has usurped all local control and dictates what and how much can be refined where and when. We have enough refining issues. I thought part of the Bush doctrine was to weigh regulations against a formula counting the "total cost to society", where the total cost to society would always end up winning in the skewed analysis, arguing for deregulation. I kinda remember that that was the thinking behind the loosening of the mercury? standards.
I guess that thinking only goes so far, until the cost to society is only borne by the consumers and not at all by the producers.

I live in Asheville, Nc. My area has been out since last week. There may be a few stations around that actually has some, but its selling for 4.50 and up. Thats if you can find it.

This does seem alittle weird with the way everything has been happening lately in the world. The post on page 1 made me start thinking.

Weird times indeed.....

Sanford Restricts Travel Because Of Gas Shortage


We're feeling the pains here in Columbia SC also.. more and more stations are running out of fuel....

I went to the gas station this am to buy gas so I could fill up the lawn mower. I walked in to prepay. Put $5.00 on the counter and asked them to turn on pump 3. The clerk looked at me and said "We are out of gas" I asked her if she was serious since I haven't heard of this since the 70's. She was serious. Guess I will cut the grass tomorrow, if they have the gas.

I live in central Ohio.

How are the airports doing? Us Airways has a hub in Charlotte, Delta and Airtran in Atlanta, Delta in Cincinnati/N. Kentucky and Northwest in Memphis...Can you imagine what will happen if we run out of jet fuel that ends up canceling thousands of flights and the people can't fly?

Get your camping gear and dry foods ready for a fast exit folks!

[edit on 23-9-2008 by skyshow]

It's probably just because of the huricane/power outage. I don't think its some sinister plot.

I'm in arizona, we have plenty of gas and it cheaper then its been in a while.

take a deep breath and relax, its not the end of the world.

Someone stated before that this started in Nashville and has now spread to 6 states. It didn't start in Nashville. They're just the latest casualty. I have a friend who's Mother is the logistics person for a chain of gas stations here in SC. The problem is these stations are used to getting 8+ loads of gas a day, but now they're only getting 1-2 instead. There's the reason they're running out. I'll sure be glad when it gets back to normal...if it ever does.