god or aliens?

I've never believed in aliens untill I came across this website. I never thought it possible that there are different alien races out there because if there were people getting abducted then surely there was no God or at least they would be mentioned somewhere in the bible. going on here made me do further research about "the greys" and "pleidians" and "reptilians" I dont believe all of it but i belive most of it. as lame as it sounds reading so many threads and stories about the greys scared the s**t out of me. I couldnt sleep with the light off and i even stopped praying because i kept thinking about them abducting us and conducting creepy experiments on us and also because I've read a couple of stories that said that the aliens recovered from the Roswell crash claimed that they created Jesus. It made me think what if its true what if there is no God and He's just a story fed to us by beings more intelligent than humans. and i've also read numerous times that alot of children that go missing have really been abducted by aliens. Innocent children. if there was a God that supposedly loves us why would He let precious children get abducted by such horrible creatures? and for that matter why would a God that is compassionate allow children to get raped and beaten and why would he let children across the world starve to death?
But then I wondered who created the aliens. If they created Jesus then who created them? but then again, if God created aliens then who created God? But God has been in my life too much and too long for him not to exist. I was physically and sexually abused when i was little (i'm really sorry if this is too much information) looking back i rememebered that the physical abuse never seemed to actaully cause pain even when i was bleeding and I think its because God was there.during the sexual abuse i remember it made me angry instead of being afraid and i think God made me angry intstead of being afraid because it helped me stand up for myself to the people that hurt me. I started reminding myself about all the harsh times i went through and even though it was horrible God seemed to be there the whole time to help me. i started praying again and my lame fear about the aliens went away.
I dont know where the aliens come from and why God allows them to harm us but I do know that there is a God because I can feel him in my heart and I dont know why he allows bad things to happen to children but i know he is there with them through their suffering. who knows if God created the aliens or if the aliens created God but why does it matter as long as there is someone beside us during the bad times

No, sorry. God has nothing to do with aliens, or vice-versa.

This is primarily because not only is there no "God," nobody can even define what God is, making it an incomprehensible non-concept.

At least we understand that when we're talking about when we say "aliens." We're generally talking about real, physical critters, enough like us to be able to interact with us and share with us the same basic experience of reality, that come from other planets or different aspects of spacetime to visit us.

Hope this clarifies everything.

[edit on 18-9-2008 by Nohup]

Happened across this webpage the other and thought it sort of relevant.

And on the eighth day … Did God Create Aliens?

For those not up to speed on the Old Testament, this part of the creation story deals with a category of creatures called "the Nephilim", a non-human race that apparently inhabited the Earth around the time Adam and Eve got kicked out of the Garden of Eden.

Interesting read if you have a few minutes

Perhaps you are thinking too short term. This life is but a "wisp of smoke". "Stuff happens" to everyone. Why should it not happen to you? Are you any better than anybody else? During a correspondence with a Native American author he wrote something that you should take to heart... I did. He wrote... "White people are always a victim of something. Indians don't think that way. We believe that these things happen to everyone and are simply a part of life." Don't be a "victim". You are simply (I hate to use a pop movie as an example but it works) in the Matrix. You are most likely a Child of God. You are in the "furnace of affliction". How do you know that what you see is what you believe it to be? What if all the "suffering" you see is simple designed to make you doubt that there is a God? Is it possible that a Demon would live a "hellish" moment on this planet to keep from being sent to the "Place of Outer Darkness" and to serve as a potential "stumbling block" for you and your faith? We are from birth either a "Child of God" or a "Child of Satan". I'll bet if you read what Moses and the Hebrews were up to in the OT you would also wonder about the character of God. The only answer you will receive will be from the "Word of God" as you are led into all "areas of truth" by the Holy Spirit. Always have faith that God is HOLY. When you start to doubt look for a positive answer to your questions/doubts.

While backpacking I was hit by a light from above that felt almost physical it was so powerful. I have had an object descend rapidly over where I lay with a 3 yr old kid as we looked up into a blue August sky talking about what might be "up there". The object slowed it's descent and when it reached a height of 15 ft. or so it stopped and floated/hovered. As we stood under the slowly bobbing object(it looked like a jelly fish in it's movements) the kid was tugging on my shorts asking excitedly, "What is that? What is that.... ?" It looked like a soccer ball sized object draped in plastic with odd filaments(crinkled lines) hanging below it. I was scared. Not being like the Travis Walton of Fire in the Sky temperament... I wanted to run but couldn't because of the little fellow. As I looked up, directly in line with this hovering object was another stationary white dot hovering at somewhere between what the local single engine air craft fly and the jet liner flight lanes. That upper white dot had to be very big to be able to see it. I focused my attention on the upper object and as I did the jelly fish like lower object began slowly descending towards where we stood. I started yelling for my wife and the kid's mom to come out here and see these things. They said they never could here me. Odd because you could hear a pin drop outside. When the object was probably eight feet above me I turned and yelled to them to "get out here". When I looked back the objects were gone. I asked the kid where they went. He simply said, "White thing went away" and made a sweeping movement towards the house behind me.

Why am I telling this story? Because.... like I said... "Stuff happens". Prior to the experience I had helicopters pounding over my house night and day. They would just hover over head. So.... am I supposed to believe the "aliens" are after me? Did I change my core beliefs because of these incidents? Nope... because like I said life is a test. Everything I have read or experienced all points back to Jesus. He had this "experience" dead bang centered with His analysis and explanation of life. Like He said...."My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me..." Don't sweat the "small stuff". It's just a part of the test.

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Originally posted by Nohup
No, sorry. God has nothing to do with aliens, or vice-versa.

This is primarily because not only is there no "God," nobody can even define what God is, making it an incomprehensible non-concept.

At least we understand that when we're talking about when we say "aliens." We're generally talking about real, physical critters, enough like us to be able to interact with us and share with us the same basic experience of reality, that come from other planets or different aspects of spacetime to visit us.

Hope this clarifies everything.

[edit on 18-9-2008 by Nohup]

It takes a special kind of arrogance to declare something doesn't exist, from such a tiny perspective of the entire universe.

God is the collective consciousness of all consciousness on the universe. This is explained in the bible as your soul being the breathe of god. Where each little end fragment of that breathe is your soul, and all are connected back to the source.

Or as quantum physics might explain it, the observer effect.


[edit on 25-9-2008 by badmedia]

reply to post by KOGDOG


I don't know what native americans have to do with what the op posted but it's funny how people who haven't suffered love to ramble on about how "it happens to everybody."

Anyway, on the subject matter, I think God would definately protect us from any unearthly beings if it came down to it, and if we have enough faith.

reply to post by veranda


definitely