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Originally posted by davidbiedny
This thread is indicative of the reasons I tend to avoid ATS these days.
Originally posted by TerraX
Originally posted by gib_niner
hey derekB,
Yes of course the image is of Michelle - but
the Asket/Nera photos were originally manipulated by photographer, Mr. S., who was coerced and threatened by the MiB (Men in Black).
That's pure speculation. "Mr. S." did it. Why isn't he named? I can think of a good reason. Later on in the Meier info it is mentioned that "S." passed away. Now that's convenient. Smoke-screens and dead-ends. The case is littered with them, especially when matters get dubious. Nice try Gib..., but it remains a weak excuse. A category below "my dog ate my homework".
Originally posted by derekcbart
Hello.
I just wanted to let you know that the IIG's examination into the Billy Meier Wedding Cake UFO has been completed and posted online. You can go directly to the Wedding Cake UFO Deconstruction Report here: www.iigwest.org...
You can view the rest of the report here: www.iigwest.org...
-Derek
Just what it says a lot of evidence being produced on both sides... Hard to determine WHICH is the "Cult" The believers or the debunkers... The zeal is equal in both courts
Nikola Tesla's "flying machine", contrarily to what many have been lead to believe by his misleading late VTOL patent, was not an aerodynamically based one, but electropropulsive. While his VTOL patent was far ahead of his time, it was of aerodynamic design with wings and propeller - this was *not* his "flying machine". There are several references to his "ideal flying machine" in his interviews and articles. Most have been put together in a pdf with footnotes in the files area for everyone that is interested in researching this occulted but prime moving life objective. It would be also appropriate to straighten out some facts regarding Tesla's life.
These facts are:
- UFOs are real, Man-made electropropulsive crafts based on Tesla Technology
- The alien scenario is a misleading "charade" to get people "hooked"
- Nikola Tesla was never "contacted" by any alien entity!
- He "worked out" his Dynamic Theory of Gravity by 1893-4
- The US government refused his offer to build and develop this machine, so he most probably turned to the Germans *prior* to WWII as he already had sold them a generator system.
- All other saucer shaped projects, information and data (AVRO, Schauberger repulsine, jet aerodynes etc) have been most probably released for misdirection and to arrange confusion.
- The undeniable occultation of Tesla's name and accomplishments from mainstream media and academia underline an unexplainable gesture - why else go to such great lengths than to hide something so important?
Excerpt from the New York Herald Tribune Oct 15, 1911:
“And it makes the aeroplane practical,” I suggested.
“Not the aeroplane, the flying machine,” responded Dr. Tesla. “Now you have struck the point in which I am most deeply interested — the object toward which I have been devoting my energies for more than twenty years — the dream of my life. It was in seeking the means of making the perfect flying machine that I developed this engine.
I knew that General Patton, on his 1945 saucer-hunt, had been ordered to destroy 200 of the celestial navigation systems which he had found in a salt cave, deep beneath the Peenemunde complex. Tesla had developed and flight-tested such a navigational system in conjunction with the Sperry Gyroscope Company in 1917. The device I saw on the salvage pile met all the criteria for the device I knew had to exist, and it was made in Germany, by Lizt, on October 1,1943.
Originally posted by easynow
Originally posted by TerraX
That's pure speculation. "Mr. S." did it. Why isn't he named? I can think of a good reason. Later on in the Meier info it is mentioned that "S." passed away. Now that's convenient. Smoke-screens and dead-ends. The case is littered with them, especially when matters get dubious. Nice try Gib..., but it remains a weak excuse. A category below "my dog ate my homework".
yes but it's also pure speculation on your part to say, that is not what happened
just wanted to point that out
Originally posted by bluemooone2
Most of the pictures that are being `debunked` here were not taken by Billy and were produced for the reason of disproving his claims. Although I really don't expect to sway anyone ... seeing is believing I guess and all the pictures , sounds , film wont convince those who are unwilling to look beyond there own beliefs. Show most people a blurry possible ufo photo and they can go hmmmmm..... But show them one that's to much in their face and real and that's to troubling to their perception of how things are . This is what lies behind the strong denials of this case.
Originally posted by easynow
next time you try something better than"Meier didn't want people checking up on a source" bla bla bla bla.... making up stuff in your own mind surely doesn't help your agenda to discredit this case.
and the topic of this thread is..is every Meier photo a fake ? and my personal stance on UFO's and what i do.... is not the topic.
You know, concerning the topic of the photoshop employee, you haven't come up with one remotely plausible explanation as to why that person isn't fully named. Now, why did Meier list him as a "bad-guy" yet hide his name at the same time?