Why are the Aliens at Area 51 withholding information?

I have some questions to ask my fellow ATS friends. From the information I have been reading and interviews people have given, weather it be vaild or a fantastic hoax there are still logical questions left to ask so I will ask and see what we can come up with. Most say there have been alien contact since 1947 and that certain EBE's are working with us at area 51 on technology to forward us as a superpower and give us the keys to the universe but wait hold the phone brothers and sisters why are the scientists not asking these beings to help us find ways to cure cancer or stop mental retardation or any other killer or debilitating illness?.If these beings can time travel then surely there must be a way to help our sick.Anti matter inducers and quantum physics and all other amazing technology.so there must be a way to help our sick right?..I guess Im looking at a more humanitarian angle now since I am older and have had the pleasure of seeing combat a few times(ya feel my sarcasm?) and Im tired of seeing war and people kill each other, I personally think these beings see us as barbarians, a civilation based on greed, power, corruption and so on and so on so. I guess id like to know why nobody from Earth has traveled to visit the aliens planet, you mean to tell me they have been here back and forth since 47 and none of us have been there?..That seems unfair doesnt it. What do you guys think about this?.

Very interesting point.

But, think about this.....
If an alien started posting on the internet... who would believe him?
I personally would think it is another hoax.

Playing devil's advocate... In order to accept your conclusion(s) the premises must be true. Your premises are based on assumptions, and actually beg the question, "are there aliens?". You've made quite a few leaps of faith/leaps of logic here.

1. Logically, the whole area 51/alien thing has never been deductively proved, but MAY be inductively probable, (unfortunately, that's not definitive proof).

2. That IF this conspiracy is true, why do you assume that these "aliens" DIDN'T give us medical knowledge, etc, as well? Perhaps, they did.

3. Are you sure that some of us, human kind, has not been to other planets, dimensions, times? That's an assumption.

"Logical questions"... indeed.

Before you guys start blasting me and calling me a troll or whatever, I'll state upfront that I've had personal experiences that confirm "their" existance, and I use the term "their" loosely. I offer my thoughts to hopefully help you reinforce your propositions/thoughts.

No way Flux, They were lucid statements, I dont feel bashed at all and you are correct, perhaps they have given us medical cures but it could quite be possibly that the people in charge are hording these secrets/cures and if thats the case then thats a whole new argument, I believe that EBE's are real and I believe you, any others stories or info you would like to shar would be great..Thank you

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[edit on 18-9-2008 by dalek]

Actually, I don't think it's a whole other argument.
Quite possibly, there are many other possibilites.
Quite possibly...

A) Our "special" guys/gals in their "special top secret programs" did get every last drop of knowledge out of those pesky aliens and are slowly integrating that knowledge into society in a responsible, controlled, and digestable manner.

B) They're waiting for us, the giddy masses, to fold on ourselves, thus cleaning up the gene pool for a much less dense population of utopians, at which time the knowledge will be given.

C) The CIA played a prank on the generals at area 51 and put some of their sugar-free substitute in the coffee during a staff meeting, thus indirectly causing this whole mischievous mess of aliens, telepathy, advanced technology, cover-ups, etc.

You see, the list can go on and on. Don't assume the scenario you've put forth is the only one.

Originally posted by Flux8


Before you guys start blasting me and calling me a troll or whatever, I'll state upfront that I've had personal experiences that confirm "their" existance, and I use the term "their" loosely. I offer my thoughts to hopefully help you reinforce your propositions/thoughts.

Hi Flux8, you have my attention. I bet you have the attention of everyone that reads this thread, but it could be that this thread will be moved to skunk works. Oh well, if it is, I'll have to follow it there. In other words, more information about your "personal experiences" please.

Thanks in advance.

My experiences aren't confirmable, and therefore are just spurious claims from some random guy, as far as anyone else would be concerned. I guess I should have said, "I'll state upfront that I've had personal experiences that confirm "their" existance, FOR ME..." Thanks for catching that and I'm sorry in advance if I lead you on so to speak. Besides, I'm reluctant to talk about that stuff in detail anymore, especially on the internet. To suffice your curiousity, I have never "been abducted, taken on a spaceship, met an alien in person, etc". At least that I know of.

press [HERE] if you want to get back on topic.

It seems like everyone these days is looking to some "higher power" and if it isnt found within the traditional religions on this planet, then folks just jump to the extra-terrestrial theory.

Quite sad actually that humans are so desperate to believe in something. Maybe if they started to believe in themselves instead of relying on religion and aliens then they could begin to improve and evolve.

As far as religion and alines goes...theres about the same amount of "proof" to confiem the existence of both. Keep trying. One day you guys will find what you want....or rather, it may find you.

Most of this stuff is compartmentalized to the highest degree so Alien Tech isn't going surface from the same place, say, the cure for cancer would, or mental retardation.

IMHO, it's people like the Rockefellers and their highly suspicious/ambiguous Eugenics research that will be looking after the later... including population control/culling. Remind you of anyone? Hitler perhaps? Yep, the Rockefellers pretty much took over where Hitler left off. They were all good buddies!

Research: Rockefeller Hitler Eugenics through any search engine and see what results get spat out

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Originally posted by cmd18B
I have some questions to ask my fellow ATS friends. From the information I have been reading and interviews people have given, weather it be vaild or a fantastic hoax there are still logical questions left to ask so I will ask and see what we can come up with. Most say there have been alien contact since 1947 and that certain EBE's are working with us at area 51 on technology to forward us as a superpower and give us the keys to the universe but wait hold the phone brothers and sisters why are the scientists not asking these beings to help us find ways to cure cancer or stop mental retardation or any other killer or debilitating illness?.If these beings can time travel then surely there must be a way to help our sick.Anti matter inducers and quantum physics and all other amazing technology.so there must be a way to help our sick right?..I guess Im looking at a more humanitarian angle now since I am older and have had the pleasure of seeing combat a few times(ya feel my sarcasm?) and Im tired of seeing war and people kill each other, I personally think these beings see us as barbarians, a civilation based on greed, power, corruption and so on and so on so. I guess id like to know why nobody from Earth has traveled to visit the aliens planet, you mean to tell me they have been here back and forth since 47 and none of us have been there?..That seems unfair doesnt it. What do you guys think about this?.

From what i have read and watched, seen whatever. I conclude that we already know how to cure every disease, virus known to man or totally heal anyone that is sick in anyway, not only with chemistry but with the mind(take a look at some of the large group meditation healing exercise study s done). I think we have the tech to never use a drop of oil ever again also.

Its the "powers that be" that are running this planet and keeping us in the dark that are withholding this info for their benefit. But i feel they will be judged in the end.

Originally posted by cmd18B
why are the scientists not asking these beings to help us find ways to cure cancer or stop mental retardation or any other killer or debilitating illness?.If these beings can time travel then surely there must be a way to help our sick.

Maybe they're too busy trying to cause new diseases to worry about if. You first have to believe these scientists and ETs care for us in some way before asking questions like that.

If they are smarter than us, and have the same values (that's difficult to believe since they may have evolved very differently from us) they wouldn't be collaborating with greedy, corrupted govts.
So it's either a lie (most likely), or they're advanced and evil, or perhaps they just are so different from us that they "don't care" about anything and are here just for their own uncomprehensible (to us) reasons.

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There are people who do vanish as if from thin air all the time. It is possible that some abductees are invited to go to another planet or explore the galaxy. I would probably say yes without even thinking about it. They are probably choosy as who they would invite, but I am sure Terrans have been to other worlds.

Originally posted by cmd18B
EBE's are working with us at area 51 on technology to forward us as a superpower and give us the keys to the universe

They're advanced for a reason, they're intellect is higher than ours. As we do with the animal kingdom, we try no to disturb a habitat (sometimes) and let it grow on it's own as we watch over it.

Giving Humans the power and tech of the universe is like a Human giving a chimp an M16 without training it at all...immature and nothing good can come out of it.

Keys to the Universe...hmmm, most Humans don't believe in anything beyond the clouds, so this would cause havoc. We're an immature race that spends most of it's time murdering one another. I think we shouldn't receive "the keys" at this point.

why are the scientists not asking these beings to help us find ways to cure cancer or stop mental retardation or any other killer or debilitating illness? there must be a way to help our sick right?why are the scientists not asking these beings to help us find ways to cure cancer or stop mental retardation..

Pharmaceutical Industry runs the show and supplies the pay offs. Cure's for big diseases mean more cured people and less sick...so less meds being purchased. A cruel game, but it's being played as we speak.

I personally think these beings see us as barbarians, a civilation based on greed, power, corruption and so on and so on so.

I agree, which is why they won't give us the "keys to the universe".

I guess id like to know why nobody from Earth has traveled to visit the aliens planet, you mean to tell me they have been here back and forth since 47 and none of us have been there?

Nope. You can fly to the Amazon but those tribesmen will never see America, and that's on our own planet. Like I said earlier, our Race isn't up to par with what some like you wish could happen in our life time.

Everything takes time, Advanced life can bend it and travel through it, at one point in time they couldn't, just like us. It takes time, but not in this life time.



[edit on 19-9-2008 by Tomis_Nexis]

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Most say there have been alien contact since 1947 and that certain EBE's are working with us at area 51 on technology to forward us as a superpower and give us the keys to the universe but wait hold the phone brothers and sisters why are the scientists not asking these beings to help us find ways to cure cancer or stop mental retardation or any other killer or debilitating illness?

Well, first why would they help us?
Perhaps they are creating some of these diseases?
Who knows....

I dont think they are here to help "us" really.
I believe they are here for another purpose, it has to do with us generally, but i'm not certain that it will be for the good of us.

But then, there are more than the "Greys" out there....

Originally posted by Balez

Well, first why would they help us?
Perhaps they are creating some of these diseases?
Who knows....

I dont think they are here to help "us" really.
I believe they are here for another purpose, it has to do with us generally, but i'm not certain that it will be for the good of us.

But then, there are more than the "Greys" out there....

It's human nature to assume the worst from the unknown, it's just how we are. Could explain why we bomb other cultures because we don't see there way of living as our interests. It's all in our heads.

You assume they may be creating the diseases because all that we have to base that accusation on is how our own Race deals with itself.

Our nature is probably a laughable cause for Advanced life.




[edit on 19-9-2008 by Tomis_Nexis]

Looking at the "Big" picture... I would think that you don't want to give the solution to sickness and disease because you would definitely have a problem with population growth.

- Right now, the Earth is barely sustaining all us humans now! We are basically a "Parasite" on this planet. We wouldn't have life without our host, "Earth". If there is too much of us... the planet dies. (If it isn't dying already)

Sickness/War = Solution to "Overpopulation"

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It's human nature to assume the worst from the unknown, it's just how we are. Could explain why we bomb other cultures because we don't see there way of living as our interests. It's all in our heads.

I'm not asuming anything at all, i am guessing here.
If they are here, and they have the inclination to help us....Why haven't they?
1. Either they are not really here.
2. Their intentions is not in our best interest
3. They are here and only observing without interfering.

You assume they may be creating the diseases because all that we have to base that accusation on is how our own Race deals with itself.

Actually i didn't asume that either.
Purely guessing their intention, as you see i put a question mark after it.