Insights of The Celestine Prophecy *spirtitual thread*

**Warning spiritual thread**

I have flagged warning as I know that there are members here on ATS that have a phobia with spiritual posts therefore it is your choice whether you proceed from here.

I have been a little reluctant in regards to posting 'spiritual awakening threads' as I didn't know how they would be received. However, since my last post received positive feedback and I made some new friends I thought I would share this with you as it literally does give clear insights into the awakening process.

Insights of The Celestine Prophecy

Some of you will have already come across this, some of you will not understand any of it. but I am sure there are like minded people out there that will take something from this.

THE SIXTH INSIGHT . . . CLEARING THE PAST

This one I can especially relate to the higher you go the faster and furthur you fall (I call this one the circle of karma)

The more we stay connected, the more we are acutely aware of those times when we lose connection, usually when we are under stress

How many times have you connected to higher state of being only to be pulled back by some event involving the stress and strain of the society we live in. It is near impossible to maintain a higher state and keep that balance when at work for example.

If you are just waking up and trying to figure it all out please read these insights and share your experiences.

MOD: not sure if this is the right place, but I chose here because our awakening is connected with the NWO. Not sure how it will be received here though.










[edit on 17-9-2008 by franspeakfree]

To gain energy we tend to manipulate or force others to give us attention and thus energy.

I spend a lot of time helping my friends usually just a good talk a bit of advice.
But almost always leaves me feeling drained as they walk away smiling thinking about what iv said.
So i tend to need a lot of time alone with my thoughts to recharge.
But i get a great deal of satisfaction from helping when its needed.
All that makes me wonder if im heading in the direction i was meant to.
Sorry for maybe going of topic your thread made me think a little about my path.

[edit on 17-9-2008 by SvenTheBerserK]

Help me here.

Isn't the Celestine Prophecy a novel and fictional?
en.wikipedia.org...

I read that book in the past and I liked it. It picks up/collects spiritual ideas. Really worth to read. However I don't know if it is good to mix or pass it to strong as reality.

Originally posted by SvenTheBerserK

To gain energy we tend to manipulate or force others to give us attention and thus energy.

I spend a lot of time helping my friends usually just a good talk a bit of advice.
But almost always leaves me feeling drained as they walk away smiling thinking about what iv said.
So i tend to need a lot of time alone with my thoughts to recharge.
But i get a great deal of satisfaction from helping when its needed.
All that makes me wonder if im heading in the direction i was meant to.
Sorry for maybe going of topic your thread made me think a little about my path.

[edit on 17-9-2008 by SvenTheBerserK]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts it means alot to me.

Thats the problem with waking up we all feel at first that we can wake others up, its as if we have this thing inside of us that we want to share with others. However, no matter how hard you try its impossible to do so. Instead the people that you are trying to help just draw your newly found positive energy from you and go away confused but elated and they don't know why.

What I do when people try to draw energy off of me in any circumstance is shield myself from mixing with their energy/aura (whatever you want to call it) by visualising a golden/white energy barrier between me and the person. Everyone has their own style to prevent subconscious phsychic attack.



[edit on 17-9-2008 by franspeakfree]

Originally posted by g210b
Help me here.

Isn't the Celestine Prophecy a novel and fictional?
en.wikipedia.org...

I read that book in the past and I liked it. It picks up/collects spiritual ideas. Really worth to read. However I don't know if it is good to mix or pass it to strong as reality.

Yes it is written as fiction but reading it you can tell that the author has been awake for a long time. I am not saying take every word as gospel far from it what I am saying is that its your choice whether you can take something from it.

Through personal experience IMHO this is the closest you will get to a manual.

A couple of examples: How many times have you thought about someone either in a dream or dream state like daydreaming and then the next day you bump into them, did you pass on the message you are supposed to give them?

How many times have you left the house and gone for a wander not knowing where your going but instead of worrying about it you go with the flow and suddenly something happens where it all makes sense?

What makes you leave the house, what made the event happen? what made the people leave their house in order to bump into you in the street at that particular time?

The celestine prophecy is written in a way so that people who are just waking up can comprehend what is happening to them.

It covers Fate,Gut instincts,spiritual growth,understanding and most importantly it shows how valuable we all are.

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[edit on 17-9-2008 by franspeakfree]

I would think that if you took the teachings of the Secret and Celestine prophecy, also another good book is the Secrets of the Shambhala also by Redfield.
I actually have read all his books, and the best thing the Celestine Prophecy can do to any individual is help them relate to the energies around us, that right there is enough to wake you up to a higher degree.


Most people don't grasp that we are, you are a spiritual being you are an energy field operating in a larger energy field. we are all connected we just don’t see it everything is one energy field, you are extensions of source energy you are here in these magnificent bodies but your body has distracted you from the most part of who you really are, you are source energy you are eternal beings you are god force you are that which you call god.

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I was thrilled to come across this thread. I read the Celestine Prophecy for the first time last summer. I was in Africa doing volunteer work, and I came across a book shelf in one of the homes I was staying in...just grazing over the selection I picked up the book not knowing anything about it. I read the first few pages and was hooked. I finished the book in three days. Since then I read the Tenth Insight, and The Experiential Guide The Tenth insight holding the vision. The odd thing about it is. Years ago as a teenager I picked up a poster of the 9 insights, I loved what they offered and what the teachings gave to me. Then I came across the book years later. Often I find myself trying to teach others what I have read, and what I've experianced. Most will listen to humor me, and that's the end of it. I only hope they can continue to learn what I taught them from what I've read and they can experiance it all for themself. Growing up I always felt a higher connection to something and noticed certain dreams, or ironic things, or could just read people rather well. It never went away if anything it's just grown. I'm learning each and every day. It's weird too I notice when I'm out of balance or something just doesn't feel right, or that give and take of energry, that never ending struggle and learning how to work with it. I delight in the thoughts that we are all connected for some reason or another. I've found a few place in my travels were I feel so connected to the earth around me, it's increditable. One of those places was the Redwood Forests. I could go on for ever about this topic...thanks for posting again.

- Live your true self-

I often wondered about some of the events in my life that would happen "by chance". Then I read this book and it seemed to make sense. At that time I was in a very high energy and positive place, and I felt all of this. I even began sharing my energy with people. It seemed like I had more then I needed and could give it freely. Now though I have moved from this high energy place. I now live in an area surrounded by anger and arrogance. I have even come across several "physic vampires". More then I think I should have. The problem I face now is that I can't keep my energy positive/full, and its got to the point were I think I have started to drain other people's energy. Sometimes knowingly and sometimes not. I know in my heart that its the place I am in (northern Illinois) that has brought me down, and I do have plans to move far far away never to return(sorry friends and family its time to leave, again).

My question is could it be possible that while I thought I had + energy to spare I actually depleted myself and now rely on others to build back up? If I have depleted myself by willing sharing this energy is it fair or right for me to take it from other people? This draining that I have been doing am I now a "physic vampire" (not a title I want by any means)?

I have more to say on the subject but I think this is a good start. Thanks for the post.

I've read the two books about insights and now reading #3 Shambhala.
I love the synchronicity throughout the three books. In fact, it was a bit synchronous (sp?) that I even stumbled across it. I ordered the tenth insight only to find the book already in my collection.

Although it is a work of fiction, the messages are a good blueprint to living with good energy flow. I have seen people walk into a room and transform the mood of everyone, be it positive or negative. I've also witnessed people who siphon away the energy of those around them.

Truly a quality writer.

Originally posted by hILB3rT
My question is could it be possible that while I thought I had + energy to spare I actually depleted myself and now rely on others to build back up? If I have depleted myself by willing sharing this energy is it fair or right for me to take it from other people? This draining that I have been doing am I now a "physic vampire" (not a title I want by any means)?

Absolutely categorically not, because of the stresses and strain of modern day society it is sometimes hard to find positives in the world. However please believe me when I say that IMHO and experience positives can be found in th darkest depths of this world, you just have to look for them. In regards to your question of losing power/energy and having a flat aura, do you protect yourself? a very good teacher of mine told me that I should always protect myself when I go out,meditate,feel down and channel. In order to do thiis I normally surround myself with golden/white light and dig the my feet in to the earth (visualisation) picture yourself being pulled down inside the earth by the roots of the earth.

When you channel and first start the journey you (not personally) believe you can help everyone and that you are invincible unfortunately this is not the case and it easy to be sucked into the vortex of negative emotion, if you don't look after yourself you will lose charge day after day after day, just like a battery left on charge.

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Hey there and thank-you for the trip down memory lane ... I read James Redfield's 'Celestine Prophecy' when it first came out. I think I was about halfway through it before I realized it was fiction (although that didn't detract from it in any way) . It helped me tremendously because I was experiencing so much, so fast at that time.

As for the 'wanting to share' ... that made me smile ... I remember it well ... I call it 'The Biggest Pentagram Syndrome' (it's a witch thing), and let's face it, when we discover the magick involved in the awakening spirit ... well, let's just say we've all worn some very big pentegrams (or equivalent) I'm quite sure I was a pain in the arse back then !

(to the other poster - 'hey there' - feeling drained after helping someone) ... as you find yourself expending energy to your friends (or whoever), always visualize new pure white energy pouring in through your 'crown chakra' to replace it ... you will feel amazing when you or they finally walk away. But don't forget to close the chakra when you finish.

>>> star and flag for this thread ... because of the great memories. Thank-you. Woody

I try to guard myself as much as I can, but I know I am not giving it my 100% all. It's seems that since I have moved back to where I grew up it is hard for me to find that connection I had when I was in the high energy area. I can't get my brain to slow down to mediate and often times end up frustrated. I do however do visualize myself warped in a sapphire colored cloak of sorts when I go to sleep. Sometimes I find I can't go to sleep at all unless I have this "safety blanket" in my mind.

I haven't consciously channeled any energy in a while now. Not sure why i just haven't had that "feeling" to do it. When I did though it would almost feel like a breeze had started. Kinda off subject but there is another thread I am watching at the moment about zodiac signs so this thought kinda popped into my head. I am a Libra which is an air sign. What do you think about a relation between the sign and the breeze I feel when I did channel.

Thanks to the O.P. for starting this thread.
Its refreshing to read/share such a positive subject.

To those who have given some advice thank you i will be putting that into practice..sounds energizing just thinking about it.

Some tell me they think im a lot older than i look...old soul perhaps?

I notice sometimes the advice i give to others dosnt seem come from me,theres been plenty of times when i have spoken and then thought to myself "Wow that was realy insightful/where did that come from"

Would that be a very basic form of channeling?
Or just me drawing on more experiences than i can consciously remember?

i love this book as well as the ninth insight. read them many times.

i've actually refered to this book in the gilliland ranch thread because i beleive that from numerous accounts of people 'feeling' differant from their visit, that there is a high energy field surrounding the land and that many of what is occuring there both paranormal and spiritual reminded me of what i read in the books.

especially the chapter: a matter of energy. it says that old natural environmens radiate the highest energy and i am in total beleivance of this. ever been to a forest or camped and felt 100%. i know i have felt alive, happier and content.

if it is the case that ufo's are sighted in the gilliland area and that there are paranormals occuring, this would make total sense. i cant explain why because i'm not as scientific as some sorry.

this book really opened my eyes to so many possibilities and truths.

I am not sure where people want to go with this, if anywhere at all. But its great to hear other people that have encountered the same experiences when you woke up.

I personally remember freaking out my parents when I first woke up, I was only 16 so you can see where the immature streak came from.I was sitting in our lounge with my sister and my parents and I was talking about nostradamus's predictions and being absolutely ridiculed by my whole family. Anyway I pulled out a crystal on a string and started to 'get into the zone' once I was charged I let rip into everybody in the room by asking questions and revealing the answers. Strange things happened and my dad threw me out of the house and told me to get rid of the crystal.

Obviously as I was only 16 I didn't realise that negative energy can get through the tiniest crack, where as positive energy is twice as hard to channel. Of course I wasn't aware of any dimensions,beings, not until a chance meeting with a medium who just so happened to answer all the questions I had at the time and teach me over a 5 year period how to channel my energy and get the most out of it.

Its great having a teacher but its even better when you first start meditating/channeling I remember meeting a really old guy once in one of my meditations and demanding he verify who he was, I cringe as I write this as I wouldn't ever be that rude now. Remember the first time you stepped through the white light and how your body felt, if only you could bottle the stuff .

What I will say to the people reading this who are waking up and are/have experienced these things. Be careful with how you use it. For example if you want more money/material gain, you may get it but at what cost. For every + there is a - and the - is normally twice as much as the +. Also be careful not to nurse your ego, when you feel it growing and you believe that you are better than everyone else because you can see things differently, just meditate and show compassion to everyone you met that day/week/ month. A good way to smash the ego is to show compassion to the most evil thing you can think of, peadophile,murderer,grays. That should do it.

Please continue to share your stories. How many of you have done a tarot reading for someone, and then had that person burst into tears for no aparent reason. What do you do? its still find it awkward now.

Originally posted by SvenTheBerserK

Would that be a very basic form of channeling?
Or just me drawing on more experiences than i can consciously remember?

Sorry Sven I didn't know if you were asking the question to me or retorical? I can't say if you were channeling because I am not you but in my own experience if I sit still and relax while I am talking to someone about something deep i.e not everyday life. I too come out with things that make me smile as in those instances I believe we are the vessels that others channel through in order to get the message through to them once and for all. How frustrating must it be for our guides and helpers .

Also just to add, when you say "basic form of channeling" this doesn't exist, its impossible to put channeling/meditation into human words that describe levels. Don't forget that according to our society this doesn't exist we are all crazy crackpots. Therefore, there is not basic or novice,expert,super expert forms of channeling. Channeling is channeling and meditation is meditation.

Any other experiences you want to share?

Ok here's one i find hard to tell people face to face(they think im nuts)

A few years ago a teenage girl was living with me sharing the house...anyway we were having a huge argument about her family(i wanted her to sort things out with her mum/mom).

While she was screaming at me i was concentrating on her eyes she had my complete attention....then her whole face changed/morphed into an older woman who look afraid....my heart stopped..felt like it anyway.

I stopped the argument and told her what i just saw,then i described the woman i saw her change into.

I described her mother(who i hadn't yet met).
I told her to call her mother...when she called she found out her brother had just had an overdose her mother had found him a few minutes before my little vision.

For me that was the most memorable experience and intense.
Oh and my housemate made up with her mother after that.

I used to read tarot cards a lot, but like the channeling I have not done it in a while. I have never had anyone burst into tears when I read them. Although I have turned a few skeptics into believers.

By the way I did a little bit of energy building before I went to bed last and I feel really good this morning. Thanks again for starting this thread.

Originally posted by SvenTheBerserK
Ok here's one i find hard to tell people face to face(they think im nuts)

A few years ago a teenage girl was living with me sharing the house...anyway we were having a huge argument about her family(i wanted her to sort things out with her mum/mom).

While she was screaming at me i was concentrating on her eyes she had my complete attention....then her whole face changed/morphed into an older woman who look afraid....my heart stopped..felt like it anyway.

I stopped the argument and told her what i just saw,then i described the woman i saw her change into.

I described her mother(who i hadn't yet met).
I told her to call her mother...when she called she found out her brother had just had an overdose her mother had found him a few minutes before my little vision.

For me that was the most memorable experience and intense.
Oh and my housemate made up with her mother after that.

Thats more like it, if you speak to many mediums,channellers,clairevoyants e.t.c they will look at someone intently and the majority will say that they see american indians morph from their faces.

Originally posted by hILB3rT
I used to read tarot cards a lot, but like the channeling I have not done it in a while. I have never had anyone burst into tears when I read them. Although I have turned a few skeptics into believers.

By the way I did a little bit of energy building before I went to bed last and I feel really good this morning. Thanks again for starting this thread.

Thats great news hILB3rT, I think more and more people will start to rekindle their energies as we are about to go head first into some unchartered waters soon.

Can I ask you if you have ever channelled beings not of this earth ifso please tell us your experiences?