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Man calls todays stock market crash to the date, on a message board? must read.

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posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 09:51 AM
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now this purely speculation and I have no real way of knowing who "reinhart" is but while searching discussions for "reinhart" I came up with this...

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Actually this is a far better description, and it's written by Bernanke too: www.federalreserve.gov... Monetary Policy Alternatives at the Zero Bound: An Empirical Assessment Ben S. Bernanke, Vincent R. Reinhart and Brian P. Sack 2004-48


this was a reply on a discussion about how the dow will drop to around 10,000 and is fairly recent.

so who is Vincent R. Reinhart? like I said above I have really no clue on how to IP trace or anything like that, and I am not saying that this Vincent Reinhart is the poster "reinhart" but this is where it gets a little more interesting...

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A former director of the Federal Reserve Board’s Division of Monetary Affairs, Vincent R. Reinhart has spent more than two decades working on domestic and international aspects of U.S. monetary policy. He held a number of senior positions in the Divisions of Monetary Affairs and International Finance and served for the last six years of his Federal Reserve career as Secretary and Economist of the Federal Open Market Committee. Reinhart worked on topics as varied as economic bubbles and the conduct of monetary policy, auctions of U.S. Treasury securities, alternative strategies for monetary policy, and the efficient communication of monetary policy decisions.

Professional Experience
-Director, Division of Monetary Affairs, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, 2001-2007
-Secretary and Economist, Federal Open Market Committee, Federal Reserve, 2001-2007
-Deputy director, Division of International Finance and associate economist, Federal Open Market Committee, Federal Reserve, 1999 - 2001
-Deputy associate director, Division of Monetary Affairs, Federal Reserve, 1998-1999 -Assistant director, Division of Monetary Affairs, Federal Reserve, 1994-1998
-Chief, Banking and Money Market Analysis Section, Division of Monetary Affairs, Federal Reserve, 1991-1994
-Senior economist, Banking and Money Market Analysis Section, Division of Monetary Affairs, Federal Reserve, 1990-1991
-Economist, Banking and Money Market Analysis Section, Division of Monetary Affairs, Federal Reserve, 1988-1990
-Senior economist, International Research Department, Federal Reserve Bank of New York, 1987-1988
-Economist, Domestic Research Department, Federal Reserve Bank of New York, 1985-1987 -
Economist, International Research Department, Federal Reserve Bank of New York, 1983-1985


anyone else find that maybe a little too convenient?

The poster on the board seemed like he knew his stuff and I have tried putting some of his post word for word in google to see if he just copied and pasted it from somewhere and that turned up nothing...so the person who posted would have to have some pretty in depth background in the business this Vincent Reinhart has the resume. Like I said I have no way of proving that this is our guy, and would like to add that if this was our guy why would he use his own name?



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 09:58 AM
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The Templar Knights are tied to the Vatican and it's Bank from dating back to the crusades for whom they were paid mercenaries and are directly related to today's British Illuminati whom are fundamentally the elite/royal families of Europe whom with MI6, the CIA and Mossad control the worlds narcotics trade.

Reinhart (a fairly common German name) stated that The September 15th date is associated with "Money Laundering" and mentions the Vatican.
This is most likely from the British crown controlled international narcotics trade which are traded like any other commodity such as oil or gold bullion.
The British have been in the narcotics business all along and hence the high concentration of wealth still centralized in the UK.

The drug money is laundered by the purchase of diamonds and the diamonds are then sold with the money.
The money from the South American drug industry uses the Cayman Islands Bahamas, and other British domiciles off shore banks for the same purpose.

The British elite became involved and monopolized the shipping of opium. This originated from a massive trade deficit the British had with China due to the silk and tea industries which the Chinese dominated. The British began importing opium to offset the trade imbalance. They went to India and grew the opium poppy in east India, in the foothills of the Himalayas, and smuggled it to China. And what they did over the course of a hundred years was they converted China from a homogeneous culture that was unified, into a society of warlords fighting for turf to see who had which drug-dealing regions. (Similar to what we're seeing in US inner cities today)
The British Empire’s military might and political clout was used to force China to allow the opium trade. Before the communists took over China, the British Illuminati families hid their opium trade behind the cover of the British American Tobacco Co. Later the Red Chinese would hide their opium trading behind the same front tobacco, with their state-run People’s Republic of China Tobacco Bureau.

That is why British Forces are in Afghanistan today. The British have attempted to take over Afghanistan twice back in the 19th century.
1) in 1839 and withdrew in 1842 and
2) then again in 1878.

Afghanistan is the source of approximately 80% of the world's "illegal" opium according to recent reports.

The Opium War 1839 - 1842 between China and Britain, where China was fighting to stop the British from importing opium into China was exactly the same time as the first Afghan War 1839 - 1842 to obtain and control all the opium they wanted to sell to the Chinese.

Interesting correlation between the British historically wanting to gain control over Afghanistan and GW's "War on Terror" permitting them to finally achieve that goal once again as well as Bush senior being a former director of the CIA.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by 911fnord
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anyone else find that maybe a little too convenient?

The poster on the board seemed like he knew his stuff and I have tried putting some of his post word for word in google to see if he just copied and pasted it from somewhere and that turned up nothing...so the person who posted would have to have some pretty in depth background in the business this Vincent Reinhart has the resume. Like I said I have no way of proving that this is our guy, and would like to add that if this was our guy why would he use his own name?


Interestingly enough, someone pointed out on another thread that the original poster was "banned" shortly after posting that.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:03 AM
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This Reinhardt guy or, more accurately, person(s) using the [email protected], have had quite a bit of activity on Usenet.

groups.google.com...



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by 911fnord
now this purely speculation and I have no real way of knowing who "reinhart" is but while searching discussions for "reinhart" I came up with this...

ya, but its "reinhardt" with a D



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:13 AM
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From a washington post article about the federal rescue of bear sterns ,

In an interview yesterday, Reinhart said that the rumblings of discontent reflected a sense that the central bank's mission has changed without much forethought.

"You go back a few years, there was a settled consensus about the role of a central bank," said Reinhart, now a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute. "That has changed very rapidly, and the changes were driven by events. It's not clear anyone internalized the longer-term issues when they were solving that day's problems."

www.washingtonpost.com...

It seems like this may be our guy, I'm trying to find information about why he isn't working as director anymore; I can't though. Was he fired or did he resign?



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:18 AM
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heh nice catch whoops! I guess then you can cross that out. It is rather uncanny though, a buddy on irc was searching for that guys dad found some interesting stuff but as you pointed out I was missing a D



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:24 AM
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I think these are all his post:

finance.google.com...



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by Mr Headshot
I would agree with you if he didn't back up his dates with sound and solid reasoning. The fact that he said Sept. 15 for a reason and not just as a random "I think it'll happen here" rules out, at least in my mind, a statistical anomaly.

Except he didn't back it up with a "solid reason". He said he thinks the fall would come about because of "something along the lines of insider trading on a mass scale at a major brokerage". In fact it came about because a big bank ran out of cash. Lucky guess.

The rest of his "reasoning" is just rambling about some Catholic conspiracy which, although it looks like rubbish, makes a refreshing change from the usual Jewish nonsense.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:33 AM
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the guy must be pretty well attuned to the noosphere, or universal unconscious, to be able to delve through all the ebbs & flows of the manipulations by the illuminati banker elites...

but what has not yet been said is the 15th of Sept began the Annual 'Harvest Moon'...

perhaps we are reaping what was sown...



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:34 AM
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I'm sure this probably hasn't escape anyone's attention, but I find it disturbing that the 2009 Winter Summit of the Legatus group is occurring in Bermuda, on Feb.. 5-7, 2009.

Isn't that roughly the predicted time frame for the creation of the NAU according to the CT?


This is one heck of a thread!

Starred and Flagged.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:36 AM
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Well whomever Reinhardt is, I can't find much about him. The trail of bread crumbs tied to his email address consists mostly of posts about the economy, finance, and other subjects such as those he brought up in the link that started this thread.

Not much to see when searching on Yahoo: search.yahoo.com...

Same thing on Google:
www.google.com...

Apparently he was considering buying a Dell computer earlier this year:
www.howtofixcomputers.com...

Hmm...did a search on Google for this (linked for convenience): "enterprisecorruption.com" reinhardt

Seeing some other results for that query.

Apparently he has a blogger.com profile, but it's private. I'm not sure if this link will work right, but it should lead to a "Profile Not Available" page. However I think the URL includes his profile ID...might be useful to someone. The link: www.blogger.com...

This is interesting. On this page he writes in the last comment (scroll to the bottom):



At 3/15/2008 12:26 PM, Blogger reinhardt said...

I stopped adding to the page when I found myself in the unlikely position of being financially involved with business, Florida politics, healthcare, Tampa, Sarasota hospitals, USF, certain board members of institutions, etc..

Now its just for fun.


There's a few links to his site that come up on Technorati, and the thumbnail of his site is interesting.

Still digging around, but thought I'd share that stuff. Dunno if it will prove useful at all though.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 10:36 AM
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I think I found what might have caused his banning.

Looks like a poster named "shaman.." and "reinhardt" got into it a little and "reinhardt" dropped a few bombs on the board here is the link...great work guys.

link to groups board

BTW we did find his email I sent him one hopefully he/she will join us.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:06 AM
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"Father" Luke Duke said: The rest of his "reasoning" is just rambling about some Catholic conspiracy which, although it looks like rubbish, makes a refreshing change from the usual Jewish nonsense.


I like that. "Some Catholic Conspiracy" ...It's all made up of course.

Hey Father, what do you say to the idea that the Protestant reformation was engineered and managed by the vatican? After all, the Jesuits and the black pope came to power after that, right? I guess the Jezzies are just as harmless as any old priest, is that right?

What's really interesting is to research the truth about the atrocities of both the Protestants and the Catholics. Both were as vicious as the other. I am sure Calvin would say its the evil of human nature, eh?

Priests (Deacons, Fathers, etc) are such useless sellouts these days, really. I find it funny that as I return to ATS after two years, your song remains the same. Why bother even posting in an informative, real thread like this? You are out of your league.

Actually, as a funny aisde, maybe you can tell us why the Pope has Akhenaten's granfather's greatest Obelisk in his front yard? Yes, it was Thutmosis IV (the dreaming Pharaoh who placed the dream stela at the sphinx's paws) who built that enormous sundial-pointer which is the central phallic symbol of the Catholic Vatican.

Why would they use a sun-worshipper's totem as their holiest trophy?



I wonder who the lion is loyal to, in this scene?





Just to chime in on topic:

This guy is right about the collapse of Enron and 9/11 being their exit strategy and also how the Economic blessings bestowed upon other countries get paid for by the US workers, who are now next on the list to get clambaked.

This guy is also telling you about the coming collapse of Medicare and the destruction of America's elderly population. The link is on his webpage: www.enterprisecorruption.com...

en.wikipedia.org...


On October 24th, 2007, law enforcement agents from the FBI, Department of Health and Human Services and the Florida Attorney General's Medicaid Fraud Control Unit executed a search warrant on the premises of WellCare Health Plans' headquarters in Tampa, FL. Trading on WellCare's stock was halted on the news, but subsequently fell as low as 80% below the 52-week high.[2] The SEC has WellCare's financials under watch and several class-action lawsuits were launched against WellCare on behalf of shareholders. WellCare has said that its normal business operations have not been affected by the Federal and State investigations and that it remains financially sound, with over $1 billion in cash and cash equivalents.



[edit on 16-9-2008 by smallpeeps]



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:13 AM
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Chuckle

"FIND WHAT
YOU LOVE TO DO IN LIFE AND ARRANGE YOUR LIFE"

i love being robbed and then lectured by the robbers

haven't had to arrange my life a whole lot to get what i love


Btw, good job 911fnord. I was thinking we should try to do the same thing.


I agree that this is a refreshing change of pace from the jews. I don't understand why we don't see more of the protestant sects though, they're incredibly powerful. At least in America.

He did provide a reason, it was because of those checks clearing and the panic of insider trading. I see what you mean by a lucky guess, but wow incredibly lucky.

[edit on 16-9-2008 by Mr Headshot]



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:19 AM
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Vincent R. Reinhart, former director of monetary affairs at the Federal Reserve Board, is a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.

www.american.com...



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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so, stockmarket crash. could the op definitely say we are in a recession or depression?



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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Does anyone understand the reason Reinhart gave for the massive drop yesterday? I mean, how the Vatican ties in to money laundering etc.. that's a pretty big claim. I understand the whole pilgrimage idea, just not how the Vatican "supposedly" got away with this.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:37 AM
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right but as small business pointed out the "Vincent r. Reinhart" is missing the D that the poster "reinhardt" has.

smallpeeps interesting post I plan on reading his www.enterprisecorruption.com site a little later today, have you read "vatican assasins" link?

If not has anyone else? If you have would you suggest it only reason I put it this way is because I already have bout 10 on a list I need to read.

Hopefully we can get "reinhardt" logged in and apart of the discussion and maybe even some stock tips



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 11:45 AM
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I know hindsight is 20/20 I should have put "drastic fall" instead of "crash" in the title... it seems most people associate that term "crash" with a total chaotic everyone is freaking out people jumping outta windows on wall street event, anytime it falls like that I would say IMHO its safe to call it a crash. Some like the term "pullback"...

you didnt hear that huge boom crash sound at 4pm et?



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