Which Conspiracies Genuinely Concern/Worry You?

Which conspiracy theory(s) floating around ATS and abroad, do you not only believe are true but give you genuine concern/worry?

I'm curious because there are so many vastly different theories out there, most of which possess at least a small group of people who will defend it at all costs.

At the same time, some of these theories appear quite far fetched so it's difficult to pin down who is arguing for the sake of being right and who really stands by what they're trying to convey.

Ex: There are a lot of people who claim to believe "Nibiru" is coming in 2012 but only an extreme minority seem to actually be acting on that belief by moving inland, away from large populations, stock piling supplies, etc. This leads me to believe the vast majority enjoy the idea of Nibiru and "end of days" scenarios, but don't seriously believe it's legitimate outside of internet forums.

I've always been worried about the NWO conspiracies. The idea that our history may be pre-written by the elite to allow them to strip away are human and civil rights causes me great cause for concern.
Am I the only one who has noticed that as soon as the governments of the world stumble across a problem something, in recent times- terrorist attrocities, usually happens to allow them to rewrite the rule book allowing them to side-step said problem.

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Whether or not Super Bowl III was fixed.

I'll start

The whole "Big Brother" conspiracy does concern me very much. Working in telecom, I see it's progression all around me, ever increasing.

In the streets we see ourselves losing privacy to eye's in the sky, in some places hundreds per square block.

RFID chips are just over the horizon now it seems. I think the last hurdle for using them in products is just getting them mass produced and sold to investors; the technology itself is complete and ready to start invading your privacy.

Human RFID will likely be making it's way into us within 10 years, before 2020 if any of the numbers I've come across are any indication.
The biggest hurdle there seems to be relating to cancer controversies- whether or not the implants do in fact cause tumors to form around them. If they do I'm sure it's only a matter of time until a solution is found. I will fight this no matter what happens in terms of laws and what have you.

Complete digitization of all cash allowing the government to track your every transaction and decide if it's in your best interest to keep this "privilege". Maybe take it a step further and decide what kinds of food each person is allowed to buy when they go to the store; designer diets, by the government.

I'm a big privacy advocate and these kinds of things really do worry me unlike most of the conspiracies I contribute to in discussion.

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Trying to think of all the ideas I've heard, there's a lot of them. I guess maybe some of the economic predictions might be the most concerning, probably because the likelyhood is pretty great and its been an American trend for the past couple decades it seems. Crappier jobs, longer hours, and lower pay, the younger generation is being hit with this hard it seems and from what I've read, a lot of them are demanding better conditions which probably won't go over too well. I just seems like there is less and less reasons to go on to college, and less and less reasons to work.

I think this is a great thread btw, I haven't seen one like this and with so many theories its helpful.


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What worries me the most:

1) The amount of unsupported bs that ppl are willing to buy into TO THE POINT that they actually argue *against* facts and logic to support their generated views.

2) The confusion, fear, and anger that is being displayed by those who buy into these theories.

3) How easily people are led away from the truth by unsupported and often quite silly stories that are being accepted as reality.

4) The real conspiracy behind the conspiracy theories really does make sense and exposes how easily ppl can be influenced to the point that they start believing anything they are told so long as it supports their twisted and manipulated view of reality.

Originally posted by justamomma
What worries me the most:

1) The amount of unsupported bs that ppl are willing to buy into TO THE POINT that they actually argue *against* facts and logic to support their generated views.

2) The confusion, fear, and anger that is being displayed by those who buy into these theories.

3) How easily people are led away from the truth by unsupported and often quite silly stories that are being accepted as reality.

4) The real conspiracy behind the conspiracy theories really does make sense and exposes how easily ppl can be influenced to the point that they start believing anything they are told so long as it supports their twisted and manipulated view of reality.

I agree with this entirely!! Especially the first one. I've lost track of how many times I've tried arguing against medical conspiracies with legitimate medical data in the form of journals and studies from respected doctors and institutions all over the world and be shut down for no other reason than it goes against the conspiracy.

What worries me, isn't so much a conspiracy necessarily, but all the unnatural chemicals we're inhaling all the time.

especially from computers and TVs.

theres this website talking about this issue and how we're all inhaling pbde's from computers and TVs

www.rawair.net...

Originally posted by asdf1234
What worries me, isn't so much a conspiracy necessarily, but all the unnatural chemicals we're inhaling all the time.

especially from computers and TVs.

theres this website talking about this issue and how we're all inhaling pbde's from computers and TVs

www.rawair.net...

I think for those particular chemicals to be harmful you have to find a way to ingest them though.. like if you set your PC on fire and inhale, that's probably not good for you in any case, no?

Originally posted by ANoNyMiKEEx: There are a lot of people who claim to believe "Nibiru" is coming in 2012 but only an extreme minority seem to actually be acting on that belief by moving inland, away from large populations, stock piling supplies, etc. This leads me to believe the vast majority enjoy the idea of Nibiru and "end of days" scenarios, but don't seriously believe it's legitimate outside of internet forums.

This is the logic that most likely was the catalyst in getting me to restructure how I view conspiracy theories. All in all, in the end, we will all die. This has been an inevitable fate imposed on us since the day we drew our first breath.

Once I realized that ultimately what we were fearful of was concrete and unchangable, I was able to look at these theories objectively which led me to the conclusion that they are not spread for the purpose of making ppl aware, but rather to incite confusion, fear, and anger which ultimately distracts ppl from being able to truly live their lives free of restraint. Anytime I have searched for and found the originator of the theories, I have found a person whose intentions are shady at best.

IMO, conspiracy theories are restraints on the minds of the people who buy into them. The chains that keep ppl trapped in a psychological box are, as I have said... confusion, fear, and most worrisome to me, anger. The key to unlocking these chains is ironically in our possession ~ Common Sense/Logic. The ability to decipher is the gift that leads to true freedom.


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I would say all of the large conspiracy theories has some truth to them. None of them scares me though, mostly because I dont have anything to lose except myself.

If I had a family in this day and age, with a young kid... I would worry quite a lot. Who in their right mind can look at the state of the world and feel there is a better future coming?

Advancements in weaponry, cybernetics, cloning technology, robotics... all of these things could lead to a better world in the hands of the right people, but will lead to a horrible world in the hands of people with the mindset of today.

Mind control should be the only one that worries everyone. No one has a firewall in there brain, and the people running the show, find it easy to control people in this world.

So you guys should forget every other conspiracy, and try to remember the only one thats a danger to all of us is mind control.

NWO definitely, and also the brainwashing power of tv and the slow stupefying of the world. Shows becoming dumber, channels becoming owned by six corporations, more kids are interested in playing guitar hero or rock band than picking up and learning an actual instrument, and so on.

I believe in UFOs, well because i saw 2 of them on separate occasions, my family and friends have seen them as well... Also all the eye witness accounts, high up officials (Astronauts, Air Force Personnel: etc,) coming forward and some unexplained videos. Also they have been recorded through out our history as well. Something is definitely up there.

Well, am i scared of these things? kinda, but more curious.

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All conspiracy theories worry me. It worries me that people might believe them.

Keeps me awake at night, it does.

Conspiracies that worry me the most are those that are not heard of. Those are real. I mean, look at the history - hundreds (probably much more ) known (to later generations) conspiracies for less then 5000 years of recorded history. Read Machiavelli - it is old "technology" but it shows existence of such a things. I am sure that most of current conspiracy theories are there just to create noise. They are ridiculous enough to make people eventually informationally immune to the concept of such a thing as conspiracies. Not to mention foreign intelligence intentional ones.
But conspiracies do happen! To find truth is impossible without a lot of time and a lot of resources. Even on such a site like this, with lot of smart people.
Edit - missed another word.

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1. Fluoride in my baby's drinking water (Not to mention everything else in our food and what not).

2. The chip

3.2012... Even if none of the stuff comes true, there will most likely be riots and looting in many major cities.

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What makes someone who clearly understands whats going on in the world, bring someone into the world?

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At the time, I was just someone that had that gut feeling that something wasn't right in the world. I had had my run-ins with conspiracies here and there, but never thought much of it. Then it happened: lol I saw the Zeitgeist(spelling?) movie. I then started doing my own research and went out and got some of Icke's books. From that time on, I've done nothing but wish I could just put her back in my balls. Sadly, it's not that easy. I'll just have to man up, take responsibility and introduce the truth to her, slowly, throughout her life.

Originally posted by andy1033What makes someone who clearly understands whats going on in the world, bring someone into the world?

Uhm, because they want to have a chance at keeping their bloodline on the earth. If everyone based having kids on whether everything was right or wrong in the world, the human race would have long ago been extinct considering bad things have always happened in the world.

Actually, good and bad is a concept that is greatly misunderstood. It is good that bad things happen. It restores the natural balance in the world. Cheer up my little pessimists, the sun will shine again, if not for us, then for the future generations.