My first contact with another being

SM don't disappear you are simply "one of us" and together we have shared many insights on this thread you created but I wish you well. I always see you sitting on a beach chair on the sand smoking and having a cocktail or in your garden at night with a beautiful being coming out this glowing light in the forest.

I agree that many races of ET's have visited and acted or pretended to be higher than us, your particular friends, I couldn't say but we have all benefitted from this dialog.

Peace my smoking friend!

Cindy

Edit: Typo

[edit on 20-5-2009 by cindymars]

These threads are probably more important than folk think.
Discussions about Human NonHuman interaction in itself may and can interest and evolve others to contribute through this communication media.
Others may have information and experiences to distribute to those seeking the truth.
Communication over the hidden ether of the internet is perfect for contact.
It could be the case that an Avatar and a name you speak with may have more meaning than was first envisaged.

Originally posted by locster
reply to post by Mr Green

 

I looked at 2 seconds of that Ashtar commands vid and stopped it.
Don't you recognise that guy clothed in white?
His forehead? Think hard.

well no I dont really. I googled other pics of this Lord and thought he looked a lot like Tom cruise lol

4.bp.blogspot.com...

ive U2U you with some other candidates less attractive LOL

However having googled this lot they are very odd. One is a reincarnation of a Grey did you know that?

"I am a large Grey, using a body
designed by Universal scientists and THIS IS SO" - Hatonn

www.luisprada.com...

Uh oh, wait, let me crawl from under my rock...

So, is everyone parting ways or something, cuz I read good-byes and such?

Do you really have some other place to go though?

I'm glad that some have come to a realization that we only have each other (as I have been saying all along) and that hoping or relying on external influences to do what's "good" for us is not going to happen.

If anything, this thread has shown that no matter how much we might disagree on some matter, we are more alike than we think so and that is our strength. It also shows that everyone is wide awake, contrary to the notion that "we need to wake up." The diversity of responses and thoughts just shows that we are all thinking in many ways, and are extensions of each other, covering "all bases."

One might say that we have come a full circle. It makes me very happy, to whatever small contribution I played in all this, that smokingman2006 is now entertaining other possibilities, compared to his original point of view. We have all been that extra "pair of eyes" for him and that's the most important part - being there for each other when it counts.

Now, if we could stop projecting doom and gloom perhaps we can pick things up and build a "better future" for everyone.

You must truly speak for yourself on that one. I'm still out there, not only asking for help, but have some reason to believe that it may come. There is something going on that makes me think that if this isn't the case, and they're misrepresenting themselves to their abductees/experiencers, then they are taking advantage and harvesting us while watching us self destruct. While I've entertained that possibility at times, that this could be true, I have to wonder why they instill a strong sense of understanding that our greed and monied system is wrong, and that we must not allow one person to go hungry. I cannot emphasize this enough with those I've experienced contact with.

So, this also leads me to wonder why the ones experiencing abduction and contact are the more idealistic who want this world to change. Why chose them?
There is a lot more to this than just harvesting dna, or making off with some hybrids.

reply to post by amigo

I'm glad that some have come to a realization that we only have each other (as I have been saying all along) and that hoping or relying on external influences to do what's "good" for us is not going to happen.

That was the most important thing all along; coming to the conclusion that our problems have to be solved internally, or at least seen to be (I’ll come back to that).

If they’re not solved by us, then how do we learn from our mistakes? The answer is that we wouldn’t; we’d end up like a precocious child who has his parents cleaning up the mess he leaves behind, never having to account for his actions as no consequences ever occur, at least any that he cares about. He can’t be told that he’s doing everything wrong, as according to him and his upbringing, nothing he’s ever done was incorrect.

The child thinks he knows it all.

However, on the flip side of the argument; if those parents choose to affect his behaviour, nudging it towards a positive attitude by subtle means that he never notices and therefore believes are of his own doing (and which eventually are), and that patently benefits his life, then he’ll happily become accountable not only to himself, but morally too. He has learnt valuable lessons.

The child now does know it all.

Maybe our intergalactic neighbours watch our mistakes, and delicately fine-tune our attitudes by unseen means. And that’s a win-win situation, isn’t it?

Maybe at its deeper levels, the confusion caused by alleged and real alien contact is causing us to miss a subtle message. As you rightly said:

If anything, this thread has shown that no matter how much we might disagree on some matter, we are more alike than we think so and that is our strength.

Either way, via blinkered “believer” or the dreaded “skeptic”, the message gets put across in one form or another (and that is something that I learned from this tread – the message is important – even though I am still uncomfortable with it being disseminated by spurious messengers).

It also shows that everyone is wide awake, contrary to the notion that "we need to wake up." The diversity of responses and thoughts just shows that we are all thinking in many ways, and are extensions of each other, covering "all bases."

I couldn’t agree more, but am pretty sure many will not.

This could be another factor to understanding the complexity of this subject; our divisions. Many profess to have intimate knowledge, but in reality some are just desperate to belong to something that gets them away from their mundane world, some others have a genuine need to know the truth, and those fortunate few who do have real insight are stuck in the middle.

Individual interpretation, balanced observation and assumed understanding of the subject divides us, when the subject should, in all honesty, unite us.

What we do need is correlating evidence - unifying data - tenets if you will (but not in the GFL/AC sense), that will allow us to studiously appraise just what exactly we are dealing with.

But that would mean interference/contact.

Catch 22 situation for us, and “them”.

Now, if we could stop projecting doom and gloom perhaps we can pick things up and build a "better future" for everyone.

Ah, amigo, don’t you know that misery and doom and gloom sells?

Beamish

If they’re not solved by us, then how do we learn from our mistakes? The answer is that we wouldn’t; we’d end up like a precocious child who has his parents cleaning up the mess he leaves behind, never having to account for his actions as no consequences ever occur, at least any that he cares about. He can’t be told that he’s doing everything wrong, as according to him and his upbringing, nothing he’s ever done was incorrect.

I usually read your entire post before I respond. I'm making an exception!

You live in a paradigm that is not the world. The world is such an incredibly evil and absolutely controlled environment, by the dangerous and organized on every level, in every town and city everywhere, NAZI ILLUMINATI that save only for the non-stop continual opposition of the majority of people, who have to rise up ALL AT ONCE, (without anyone risking their own life or their families in each community to get them to wake up!!!!!!!) or else people are MURDERED, DIE, DISCREDITED, ARRESTED, ETC . In your world, I guess, people can learn little lessons. IN THE REAL WORLD, TO ALL ABLE TO HELP! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HiAlien's excellent thread comes to mind here:
If You Could Send An Email To Benevolent Off-Worlders What Would You Write?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I repeat my message to everyone, please go outside in the evening and ask for help for this world. Billions are living in the most dire circumstances and thousands/millions are dying by wars orchestrated by the evil henchmen who are butchering children, and starving countless others, while steeling the resources of every continent and country. The earth is poisoned, the air is laden with depleted uranium bonded to the atmosphere world wide, and the only food that is healthy, the heritage seeds are sealed away in vaults as they control and contaminate the food supply. Women are suppressed and tortured by their manipulated controlling religions and they are trying to suppress the equality in the west. It is too risky to say or do anything!!!!
Ask for help for this planet.

One day, we too will be on patrole helping others if we make it to the future!
[edit on 21-5-2009 by mystiq]

[edit on 21-5-2009 by mystiq]

reply to post by mystiq


Mystiq, can I suggest that you read my post in its entirety?

That way you can appraise it correctly.

I actually suggest that we may be being nudged by some one towards a better future.

Edit to add; I just had to answer this:

You live in a paradigm that is not the world.

Err, excuse me? I believe that I live in the same world as you - actually, scratch that; I thankfully don't.

This type of quote:

The world is such an incredibly evil and absolutely controlled environment, by the dangerous and organized on every level, in every town and city everywhere, NAZI ILLUMINATI that save only for the non-stop continual opposition of the majority of people, who have to rise up ALL AT ONCE, (without anyone risking their own life or their families in each community to get them to wake up!!!!!!!) or else people are MURDERED, DIE, DISCREDITED, ARRESTED, ETC . In your world, I guess, people can learn little lessons. IN THE REAL WORLD, TO ALL ABLE TO HELP! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

makes people run screaming. Know why? It's fear-mongering. Are you saying in all honesty that the small town that I live in In Ireland is run by Illuminati Nazis?

Please.

The world I live in is not that paranoid. Troubled it may be, but it's far more balanced and real.

Sorry, but after such an outburst from you that just had to be said.



[edit on 21-5-2009 by Beamish]

I'm sure even there their presence is just below the surface if you scratch the surface. It is in the small town I grew up in the Okanagan. In fact for years while living in Penticton I wondered at the crooked lax behavior of the police, and the realtors who controlled everything, and the altars where our relatives dogs remains where discovered, and that my ex had told me years ago that you'd be surprised who belongs to that coven, think doctors, ministers, teachers.
Doctors???? I wasn't born yesterday and I already know what that means!!!!!! That means, unregistered babies are being born and sacrificed.

Why was it so strange there? Well, finding out about the Scottish Masons so prevalent in the inerior of BC. A very prominent lodge in Kamploops with quite a lot of prominent symbology in the open, as usual. Hmmmm....!!!! And my ancestor, my fathers grandfather was a mason, one of the family was the mayor of a community near there. Sir Walter Scott lineage. Hmmm!!!! Well, that explains it all. You may not get it, and others can come on and say all they want to, but I still do. My father and uncle were invited into that fold and said NO!

So, if your little town is surpisingly immune to the rest of the world, please understand, its not an island to itself.

Further, there are mysteries in my fathers family, strange occurrences, especially after my grandmother got scarlet fever and ended up with brain damage and he and his brother ended up in a foster home bearing the same last name (though ours was Irish!). Things that lead to me believe M Kultra is alive and well, flourishing everywhere, even in small towns of a thousand, or a few thousand.

This is the real world and its a very scary place. Plus we have to change it.
The other thing I will add! Due to the experiences, I know there are non-terrans involved.

Edit to add: I don't even think they can afford to have another world or corridor in their galaxy taken over by an ever expanding empire of darkness!

[edit on 21-5-2009 by mystiq]

It seems to me the only ones sending the correct messages are the FOL. All they keep saying is that we have to do it ourselves. Some of their faithful readers may be upset, but they said it flat out that 'we are here to tell you that you are the ones that must do this. you are the ones who agreed to this prior to your incarnation here.' And the way we do it is raise our vibrations, show love in the face of fear, and hold the light no matter what. Seems fairly simple to me, as a statement, that is. Actually doing it while we are here in the midst of the mess, is more difficult than it seems

I have trouble believing the ones that come here in 'person' and tell of all this doom and gloom - because apparently we have the capability to turn this around if we band together.

So go find a friend and just laugh and laugh... Just BE and BE happy!

Originally posted by blujay
It seems to me the only ones sending the correct messages are the FOL. All they keep saying is that we have to do it ourselves. Some of their faithful readers may be upset, but they said it flat out that 'we are here to tell you that you are the ones that must do this. you are the ones who agreed to this prior to your incarnation here.' And the way we do it is raise our vibrations, show love in the face of fear, and hold the light no matter what. Seems fairly simple to me, as a statement, that is. Actually doing it while we are here in the midst of the mess, is more difficult than it seems

I have trouble believing the ones that come here in 'person' and tell of all this doom and gloom - because apparently we have the capability to turn this around if we band together.

So go find a friend and just laugh and laugh... Just BE and BE happy!

I don't know abot the FOL but I agree with the message and your message as well.

Mystic with all due respect, I believe that the evil you speak of exist, at the same time, I do not see what good it does to put so much focus and concentration on it. You are really cementing that thought form IMO.

I think of the world that I want dispite what may be. Now you and others may say that is denial and it is. I will live in that denial.

I hope that you do not get angry with me as I consider you a friend but I really wanted to address this. We are entitled to differ in opinion, are we not? Please don't be angry.

Originally posted by blujay
It seems to me the only ones sending the correct messages are the FOL.

I for various reasons have slightly changed my view on TGFL. I agree their message is a good one and as long as its not manipulated ot turned into some religion then I do think it is a good message. However who are they? Who actually are they???

The Galactic Federation of Light was founded over 4.5 million years ago to prevent inter-dimensional dark forces from dominating and exploiting this galaxy. At present, there are just over 200,000 member star nations, confederations or unions. Approximately 40% are humanoids and the rest are varied forms of sentient beings. Most members of the Galactic Federation are fully conscious beings.

www.paoweb.com...

4.5 million years ago is a very very long time, how do we know this for sure? Who actually tells us all this information? They sound physical so why do they need to channell? Why do any of these beings need to channell? I thought only dead entities channelled?

EDIT Nothing actually dies, what I mean is souls not on our dimension/plane of form. Souls not in the state of reincarnation.

[edit on 21-5-2009 by Mr Green]

reply to post by Mr Green


Yea, I am not sure of the beginnings of the Federation, but I've read a little. From one of the channelings, I got that the ones speaking were mainly of light. Although they mentioned that there are many species on their ship. Who knows, but the message is what matters to me.

The reason why the focus on correcting and changing this world must be the prime concern of every individual in this world is 1) people are suffering here and now. Not changing this means its us doing this to them. I'm not pscho enough for this 2) in truth however, everyone is suffering by this slavery and takeover 3) this world is in supreme danger of entering into facism and depopulation, which by the way is already going on.

This must be changed. Its a crime beyond belief that we havn't done this already and the children aren't living in a civilized world such as:
The Abundance Paradigm: By Amaterasu; Now Online!!!
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Now, the problem is, any one trying to do this, is going to meet with danger to themselves and their family.

Many of us have actually been born into this world, to focus on these issues.
Reporting for duty!

Originally posted by smokingman2006
Dear Readers & Posters

To Finish up for today yes my Alien Experience was very real to me what was the point of it? I still do not know.
Do I trust my contacts? Not sure any longer~ ~ ~
Not sure right now if I will keep posting even if contact with my friend resumes.
Many thanks to all posters & readers , who have followed this journey with me
Health , Peace & Light SM

Sounds to me like schools out.

Signed,
Disappointed

:-(

Originally posted by Beamish

If they’re not solved by us, then how do we learn from our mistakes? The answer is that we wouldn’t; we’d end up like a precocious child who has his parents cleaning up the mess he leaves behind, never having to account for his actions as no consequences ever occur, at least any that he cares about. He can’t be told that he’s doing everything wrong, as according to him and his upbringing, nothing he’s ever done was incorrect.

The child thinks he knows it all.

However, on the flip side of the argument; if those parents choose to affect his behaviour, nudging it towards a positive attitude by subtle means that he never notices and therefore believes are of his own doing (and which eventually are), and that patently benefits his life, then he’ll happily become accountable not only to himself, but morally too. He has learnt valuable lessons.

The child now does know it all.

This only works because our children listen to their parents since they are depending on them. As adults, we get arrogant, closed-minded and very, very busy for the rest of our lives. If the alien plan is to teach us something, they better have extreme patience. I dont think its a good plan. Even if some humans learn and try to do better, there will come new humans who will turn things into crap again. Its a cycle, not a linear progress line.

Also, its not the people of highest moral who makes it to the top of the pyramid as you know. Its not the people with the highest moral who run the country or the corporations. They are probably instead working for someone else while focusing on their friends and family. They are most likely not even interested in business or politics because the motivation to get into those fields are very much about your ego and wanting to be noticed in whatever way you can.


[edit on 21-5-2009 by Copernicus]

reply to post by cindymars


I believe in the evil, too. It's here, it's all around us.

But we have the ability to ignore it right out of existence!

If we pay the evil no mind, it can't exist, right? I've been discouraged and distraught much of the time, but I keep bringing myself back to the fact that holding the LOWER vibration ALLOWS it to keep exising.

Laugh, smile, give, BE

Originally posted by blujay

If we pay the evil no mind, it can't exist, right? I've been discouraged and distraught much of the time, but I keep bringing myself back to the fact that holding the LOWER vibration ALLOWS it to keep exising.

Laugh, smile, give, BE

I have to agree with you on that one. Our thought is creation itself and if we pay no thought to the lower vibrations they cant exist in our energy plane. I think its still exists but we have the power to leave it behind. When we increase our frequency to above it its not in our range anymore so for us is no longer a problem.

An ideal example of this is a newly awakened person, they see , hear and feel many frequencies of light. This can sometimes become frightening and un nerving but as they learn how to discern and increase their frequency the lower vibrations are left behind. As long as they continue on their spiritual path of light their soul frequency raises. The lower vibrational issues of seeing and hearing odd things becomes less and less, until it is just a distant memory.

Yes think positive, think love, light and never allow the lower frequencies to scare you! they are maintained on our fear and energy we give them. I must say blujay I have enjoyed your last few posts very much, they radiate light I can feel the love and happiness from here.

Keep it up , you have raised the frequency!!!

reply to post by blujay


Most importantly is to deal with the evil that is within us, I believe anything I see in my hologram is a direct reflection of that which is within me on some level.

However if I am lazy and not working on clearing this crap out. I just choose to not ignore evil but do good.

Be the change you wish to see.

Originally posted by cindymars
reply to post by blujay

 

Most importantly is to deal with the evil that is within us, I believe anything I see in my hologram is a direct reflection of that which is within me on some level.

Again I have to agree, although Ive never heard it be called a hologram before I can see exactly why it could be called this. what we think, we project very much like a hologram! Your right a lot of what is directly reflected is from deep within and its up to us to see it and change it.