Goodbye all, LHC going live tomorrow

reply to post by lifeform


I am very interested in the LHC, but your post is true!

I told my younger son, my sidekick, that Death is a roulete wheel. How would you likeit to stop? You are alive , therefore there will be your death also, whatdya wanna pick?????

We should enjoy our life and existence, even in it's pain and sufferring, every moment!


Ghiagovinda

If it's any consolation, remember that Nature doesn't allow perpetual machines. No chain reaction goes on forever, not even nuclear fission in a bomb. It is stopped by "friction" (Actually the Thermodynamic Law of Conservation of Energy). There is a theory that black holes eventually evaporate, and I believe it, because it makes sense. One important law of the Universe seems to be that everything must change. Nothing goes on forever without changing.

In the very, very unlikely event that a black hole is created, it would be microscopic and would not last very long. Of course no one knows for sure, but my gut feeling is that nothing catastrophic will happen. The energy levels in the accelerator are very high, but in very, very tiny areas.
Don't worry, it takes a lot of energy to blow up a planet in one shot!

I would be more concerned about a large asteroid or comet hitting the earth at this point. The issue with an event like that is that it is not a matter of IF, but a matter of when. Could be tommorow, or millions of years from now.

Fortunately, we are now at the point where we have enough technology to address the asteroid/comet issue, and to do something about it. This is where we should be spending more money and effort, instead of the ridiculous amount of money spent worldwide on arms, and the insanity of maintaining enough nuclear weapons to blow ourselves up many times over.

Another issue which should be of more immediate concern is the melting of the polar caps - too late to stop it now. Again, it's not if, it's when. We should be preparing right now to gradually relocate people from low lying coastal areas with as little disruption to their lives as possible. It may take 50 years, but as the caps melt, one day there will be a storm or hurricane, and certain areas will permanenty flood like never before. If we're lucky, it will happen gradually. There is still time to save lives.

How many doomsday predictions have come and gone? Remember the year 2000? The planetary alignment? If you get hit by a truck tommorow, it's the end of the world "for you", so why constantly worry about "the end of the world"? Enjoy your life, let positive energy "in", go outside, take up a hobby, be happy, give somebody a hug, don't watch or read the news every single day, treat yourself once to a massage, tell someone you love them, take a long bath instead of a shower, vote, be active in community and global affairs, and hope for the best.

As a species, somehow we've managed to survive two World Wars, plagues, droughts, pestilences, etc. This does not mean that we are invincible (far from it), but I believe that it is not healthy to be too pessimistic. If we all work hard and try to work together, I think that with a little luck we will survive.

Originally posted by nastalgik
Alright I am stocked up on beer, vodka, wine and whiskey and I plan on getting plastered to hell starting tomorrow. With my fuel reserves I should be able to last until March next year. Hopefully when the world ends I am completely wasted. Its been a good ride boys

Most likely my kindey and liver will implode after a while....so im not worried about the end of the world

Cheers mate!
Its been a good ride folks, I'm so sorry for everyone I owe money though, they never going to get them back!
That money were spend the best way possible!
LOL! See ya in another universe!

Erm. Hey, aren't micro black holes too small to really do anything? Don't they dissolve quickly? Yes, it could create micro black holes, but they would be far too small to really have any effect on us.

And, if anyone remembers, the LHC is, simply put, a machine CERN is using to decide whether or not we've quite got the gist of things on the subject of physics. If we're right, they'll find the Higgs boson. If we're wrong, then they won't, and they'll have to come up with an entirely different theory as to how and why everything works the way it does. And yes, this WILL, in fact, be useful to us. If we know more about physics, then we can figure out the most efficient way of doing things like generating electrical energy (WHICH IS IMPORTANT, GUIZ), satisfy our ever-growing curiosity about the things that DON'T directly relate to us in our minds (like anti-matter), and all that fun stuff.
We just want to know how our universe works.

The experiment is NOT to see if it will destroy the Earth. Nobody would let them try an experiment with that goal in mind. At least, if it was, they wouldn't let us know that, otherwise WE wouldn't let them go through with it! ("We" being the people. People with power are still people.)

Also, if Adrian Veidt were behind this, then expect half of New York to disappear... in 1980-something. XD (Did anyone else get that Watchmen reference from earlier in the thread?)

EDIT: In any case, if you're really that scared, then do things that you've always wanted to do, given that it won't ruin your life if/when we do survive. That is, don't empty your bank account and buy metric f*cktons of crack. That's just stupid. Sure, tell your partner that you love them, spend time with your family, &c., but don't do anything that would otherwise be considered terrible. Like buying metric f*cktons of crack.

[edit on 10-9-2008 by LiquidTheBrit0]

this whole thing with the LHC and the hype...

makes me think about a story I read a LONG time ago... someone built a computer to compile/work out all the names of God... and right at the end when the task was completed, the stars started going out one by one... absolutely incredible story... was it Asimov or Clarke..?

if you havent read it, do so. take a day off work, pay whatever it costs, shut the kids away, muzzle the dog and dont even think until you've finished it. really.

i dont know much about the LHC, it kinda crept up on me in my ignorance. all of a sudden it was in the news, in the papers, on pretty much every site i go on. i dont like it. again in my ignorance... the idea of creating black holes...

chills me...

I love the way there all experts on black holes,dark matter and dimensions!I personaly think there all flying in the dark and taking a risk thats not needed in doing this experiment.

They started her up today,but havnt dont the big bang test yet.Isnt that going to be in a few weeks?

Everybody calm down you still have a month to live as the LHC wont start smashing particles together until sometime in October.

So go out and party like it's 1999.

reply to post by LiquidTheBrit0


Correct, Micro Black Holes are unstable and usually last less than one one thousandth of a second. Aside from which assuming that the LHC has the ability to create one. A larger model could create a MBH, however...as said, they are unstable, and last for a very short period of time.

While it would be able to suck something, it would not do any damage except to the LHC itself.

my 25th is the 26th October....i'll be having words with them geezers and this LHC thingymajig - I got a week of partying to do til the actual do!

Ahh, we're not gonna die, because if we are, I want plenty of warning so I can let Dr Who know where to pick me up in his Tardis....(and if David Tennant just wants to come as himself I'd happily take him up on that offer too, hehe )

Originally posted by LiquidTheBrit0
Erm. Hey, aren't micro black holes too small to really do anything? Don't they dissolve quickly? Yes, it could create micro black holes, but they would be far too small to really have any effect on us.

Yes because Hawking showed the the temperature of a black hole is proportional to its surface gravity. So, as a result, the smaller the black hole, the smaller its lifetime.

reply to post by emmy


well if you meet the good doctor,stop by and pick me and my mates up-I think theres plenty of room in the Tardis for every one.
Hopefully billie Piper will be there

Holy Cow!!!!! It went live, and we are all STILL HERE! Wow, did not even see a black hole where I live.

Originally posted by Shugo
reply to post by LiquidTheBrit0

 

Correct, Micro Black Holes are unstable and usually last less than one one thousandth of a second. Aside from which assuming that the LHC has the ability to create one. A larger model could create a MBH, however...as said, they are unstable, and last for a very short period of time.

While it would be able to suck something, it would not do any damage except to the LHC itself.

Well I wish the scientists knew what you seem to know. Man has yet to witness a blackhole let alone a micro-black hole. It is a theory and so is "Hawkins radiation" and that is what they are basing the belief that it will just wink out.

They actually have no idea what will really happen....that is the problem. Go look it up at a credible physicist website.

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www.abovetopsecret.com...

Coincidence? I think not.

I don't even want to think about what will happen when the atom smashing takes place in October. Something is happening NOW.

reply to post by Hardee


If you'd freaking read one post besides the first one you'd see that the activity is normal for this time of year. Did you just ignore that?

reply to post by LoneGunMan


Most credible scientists DO know. These forms of collisions happen all the time, even in our own atmosphere, you don't see us getting sucked into them, do you?

Do people not realize that this is not the first collider that we have used?

There's one in Texas, one in New York.
And with each one of these there were conspiracy theorists saying that black holes will be formed.