China:Organic food declared deadly

China:Organic food declared deadly

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A working team at Nanjing University in China has published preliminary findings based on a three year study of the safety of organically grown vegetables and organically raised livestock.

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This is genuinely interesting and actually makes a fair bit of sense-has the 'organics' industry is becoming just like any other powerful self-interest group-willing to decieve the public for $$$$

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Wow!! Nice find mate! I must admit, I've made jokes about high-preservative food helping to 'mummify' people but I don't think I've ever thought of it from this point of view.

And the wider implications are the money being made in these industries, and it would provide an alternate explanation as to why they would try to push it to the public so hard.

i dont know if i buy that. I live in cancer alley new orleans, and its just expected for every person here to get cancer as they get older. This article states that things that make an environment hostile to pests and such will make a human body hostile to pests, but were not really dieing of pests here in the US, and infact cancers are caused by large amounts of toxins and such, and these things are just adding more toxins.

The study alleges that the there is very substantial evidence that the very same chemicals and artificial substances that make produce less attractive to insects and pests protects the human body by making it less fertile for the growth of cancers and viruses.

Yeah, that is why I drink a cup of bleach for breakfast, a cup of pesticide with lunch and top it off with a nice refreshing glass of sulfer dioxide with dinner. I am fit as a fiddle and disease is litterally afraid of me.
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I have a VERY hard time believing this.

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when I posted this I knew some would compare apples to oranges, I doubt anyone is saying that we should all swallow gallons of sulfuric acid and make baby cots out of asbestos.

Modern medicine has always followed he principal 'kill the disease without killing the patient'
In fact late 19th century medicine was often no less effective than today's it just half klled the patient in the process.
My sneaking suspicion.........the findings are true.
There is a whole industry built around presenting only negative findings to suit peoples ams-did you know the US and Germany have two of the highest life expectancties AND highest obesity levels......often its the lesser of two evils-give and take-funny that Americans are healthier than All organic khalahari bushmen

Id rather eat something that is Organic.. and most likely not grown from China or GM food, or food with Preservitives.

Its not just all Physical aspects of my body i am concerned about its spiritual and other ethrical aspects of my body that i concider as well and the quality of "Pure" foods that i eat denotes how healthy my whole body is on a physical mential and emotional level of exsistance. I would like to see if they have done any research into how these preservitite foods effect these aspects of the body.

If my body has lost the hosts and the bad bacticia and so forth maybe I will not want to live inside it as well... Hmmm...!

I wonder also who is funding this research????

Any study debunking the good qualities of organic food is more than likely funded by Monsanto or an equally greedy no conscience company.

It lets not forget, China is the country of FAKERS. They proved it at the Olympics, and every time they sell a "cheap" Rolex, DVD or brand name perfume. China has built their economy on cheap copies and faking so why start believing them now?

LOL, I try and do everything healthy and I will say only this

If after a long time of doing this now, I try to eat some of the crap out there... Like banquet frozen dinners...

I will bleed from my insides when I do

swear to g-d

gross, but true... my body can't even handle process the stuff, it destroys my intestines..or something, I don't know exactly but it is awful for you lol

Isn't it funny how we've been eating non-chemically enhanced food for hundreds of thousands of years, but as soon as people stand to make money from introducing chemicals to food, eating organic is suddenly bad?

This isn't even worth a debate, anyone in their right mind can see this is complete and utter bs.

Organic not healthy? Then go and eat irradiated pesticide full GMO's and tell me how that works out for you.

Edit: of course you need a healthy balanced diet, even if it is all organic, so I am assuming people are smart enough to seperate nutritional balance from food source. If all you eat is organic tomatos that might not work out for you... but the cause of death there would be acute stupidity, not organic foods.

Edit 2: There is such a thing as biological polution, so just because something is organic does not mean it is well grown. This is why people need to empower themselves and seek out the best food available, preferably locally.

But as a principle organic is the best choice, even if organic food is ocasionally under par it is isolated case, not a rule, which is totally opposite to what is happening with our industrialized western agriculture where almost everything is turning into toxic poison.

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Organic healthy yes maybe.
It depends on where in the world.
Organic in China could have a very different result.
In the western world we have organic certification agencies.
I doubt China has these and, if they do, they could be very corrupted for the money involved.
These university people wouldn't be saying this for nothing.
In fact they will probably be taken out and shot for saying it.

This can´t be anything more than disinformative scaremongering.
How can fruit and vegetables I grow on my own land without the use of chemical fertilizers of pesticides be bad for me?

Originally posted by misuneko
I wonder also who is funding this research????

Lol
Yes, good question, and who else has done this research to fortify the results ?
Or do we let a handful of people in China decide who eats what ?

People, people! How organic food can be healthy? Just look at how watch_the_rocks and others try to manipulate you! Ancestors ate only organic food ... And? They are all dead! And all they ate was organic food! See, organic food - kills! What they possibly knew back then? They even did not have cable TV. Cave man, i tell you.

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Not all organic food is just produce you grow on your farm.
Some is mass produced.And without adequate testing can posses all sorts of bacteria's etc.
How can we all comment on what exactly goes on in China?
Organic food in the west sure its fine.
But these scientists are talking about mass produced organic food in China.
Would you like to eat some carrots, that wang grew on his farm the government gave him, above a nuclear waste dump?

Originally posted by Psychopump
This can´t be anything more than disinformative scaremongering.
How can fruit and vegetables I grow on my own land without the use of chemical fertilizers of pesticides be bad for me?

We all drink the cool aid, the only difference is whos coolaid.

NO one said they are bad for you-just non-organic is better.

Kind of like the way sane people accept non-organic medicne is better than organic (herbal) stuff.

Our ancestors did a lot of things for thousands of years-doesnt mean we should stick to it-the fact that you posted on this forum indicates that you have broken with your ancestors and bought a computer.

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.....or to put it another way, the case for organics seems oh-so-logical and feel-good and nicety-nice...........but maybe, just maybe its a pack of lies, and processed food is better for us-how do you really know???

Kind of like the way sane people accept non-organic medicine is better than organic (herbal) stuff.

Now i am sane, and i accept/know that pharmaceutical industry makes more effective drugs. But those drugs are there to treat a problem. Those drugs are considered poison even by pharmaceutical companies,very low dose one - but still poison.
Food is there not to treat anything. Food gives calories, vitamins,minerals and certain molecules we cannot produce. Why adding toxins to it makes it better? Why messing with its genes is necessary making it better?
I do not say that all additives are there for a wrong reason. Some people (including me) will have trouble to buy food of the same type if only organic one was available.
However good comparison will be not drugs - but air. "Organic" air cannot be as clean as filtered/processed one. But most people meet filtered/processed air in malls or other crowded places, where air conditioners and such are needed and where only 30 percent of fresh air is used - the rest is recycled. What is healthier - air in New York or air in malls in New York?