How does one become service-to-others?

Sorry I have no idea where this topic could have been put.

I'm a bit curious...how does one become service-to-others, instead of service to self? What aspects of your life would you have to change...what would you have to do differently?

Any thoughts or insight would be much appreciated, thanks.

Simple this means you think of others before yourself in everything you do.

[Edited on 19-3-2004 by dreamrebel]

I would say that the first thing you've got to do is not worry about what happens to you when you die. Heaven or Hell - it makes no difference.

Nearly everything religious people do, they do as a service to themselves to gain salvation.

Sure, think of others first. But think of them for the right reason.

Service to Others

You probably know more than you are saying, because you would probably not know the terms otherwise.
Why don't you tell us what you believe you are following, and why?

Originally posted by anjeeeee
Sorry I have no idea where this topic could have been put.

I'm a bit curious...how does one become service-to-others, instead of service to self? What aspects of your life would you have to change...what would you have to do differently?

Any thoughts or insight would be much appreciated, thanks.

How does one become it? Well, how do you become ANYTHING that you want to become? How do you become a student? A teacher? A doctor?

You just.. choose, learn, and be!

So.. what does service to others MEAN anyway? What do you think is involved in being service to others? For example, is it necessary to serve/help others ALL the time, and think of them before you think of yourself?

Well, what about their free will to NOT be helped, would you respect this? Does not-helping someone in a certain situation sometimes constitute a SERVICE to that person? If someone asked you to help them cheat on an exam, would it not be more service to THEM if you suggested that they learn the material instead, and refused to help to cheat?

The best way that I know of to understand service to others, or to define it anyway, is: "Lack of concern for self". If you do things that are NOT at their CORE or any part designed to appease, or please the SELF, then you're well on your way. Being a human this is much harder than it seems... since we're all Service to Self as long as we exist in this density, in this body. Isn't eating service to self already? The killing of another being so you can feast on its flesh and USE its energy in order to support and continue the existance of SELF? Yes, this is nature, and no one said service to self is WRONG, as STS and STO are just DIFFERENT ways of existance.

STS seems to be physically dependant, whereas STO may not require a physical body at all.

Lots of stuff to think about here, and I hope this helped!

-Mike

[Edited on 19-3-2004 by lilblam]

The nuns at St. Patricks parochial School in Honolulu used to tell us, there is only one good way to be greedy.

"Be greedy for Grace!"

So actually one could take the position that being "selfless," in the ultimate spiritual sense is not absent entirely one's self interest. The spiritual part is that "going about doing good," one actually gains a great deal. Think about doing maybe 10 good deeds a day, maybe added to your usual zero good deeds. They can be small deeds like smiling to others at the right time, or just giving "a point of recognition." Can you imagine the rewards, unless you are pushing too hard on the goody two shoes? Sometimes "polarization," occurs, especially upon matters of sincerity.

Genuine service is probably the only best "self interest," since you not only feel better at the end of the day no matter what your position, but also because your sales or whatever else is the measure of things (what a surprise) increases. If you value others more than your immediate self, your ultimate self will have all the right kinds of wealth, eg. treasures in heaven and righteous treasures on earth.

Besides, withholding simple things and deeds ends up being a headache anyway.

[Edited on 19-3-2004 by SkipShipman]

Thanks for asking that, Anjeeee. I never really thought of it before. I assume that I'm a decent enough person and try not to cause hurt or pain to anyone else but I never thought about service to others being somthing to be learned. Maybe following your conscious more could help.

i think that this is one of my main missions in this life is how to become a service to others. it is one of the things i need to learn to progress as a soul according to my natal chart. certain aspects of my natal chart tell me that in my past few lives that i have been not so good of a person.

but like lilblam said even eating is self service, and boy i love to eat in great excess. you have to help yourself to be able to help others in most circumstances, in a much greater degree than just food nourishments. probably i think? but certainly material and monetary things are not the most important way to serve.

human nature is extremely selfish. nature of most lifeforms on earth are selfish. if you do not look out for yourself in this harsh and creul world you will cease to exist. i don't know i have got some learnin' to do on this one. also some strong oppinions. but ive said enough if not too much


peace out

love the health of the whole more than the health of yourself. then realise there is no difference. you are it, and it is you. i am it to. we all are. you, me, the trees and the trilobytes and terminators and angels from the future.
i'm guessing, anyway.