Beware of Google Chrome End User License Agreement

I'll pass, thanks.

I thought their explanation for how that clause ended up in the EULA was bogus. Did no-one in the legal dept. at Google read the thing before it went out? I'm sure they must have known what it was for?

Does anyone have the browser from before the change, to compare its file size to the browser released after the change? Is there much of a size difference between the two?

I'm wondering if a bit more than a couple of bytes were altered...

Originally posted by Karlhungis
I think the main thing that concerns me about google, is that they are pretty quick to turn over user info to authorities when asked. Because of google, a few international bloggers have been jailed.

I think their EULA is set up so that they are covered when they inevitably turn over your browsing history to authorities. I don't trust google. I will be sticking with firefox.

This very site runs Google Adsense ads...frankly I trust Google more than Yahoo, they actually fight for their users. I think Microsoft is caught in the middle...Microsoft is under the microscope more than Google (or Apple) and get called out for more...when really Google (or Apple) are doing worse things. I like Chrome and look forward to see where it goes, Firefox has turned to crap with version 3...it crashes on all 3 of my computers, 2 did as well, but this is way worse. I don't even think the Firefox team has fixed the memory leak that started back when Firefox wasn't even called Firefox...it was called Firebird, those were the days.

Chrome sucks anyways. Stay away. Piece of crap and a load of ass. I can say ass all I want.

I knew right when i heard about Chrome on G4 it was gonna do something like this, and now here it is, go figure. The fact remains the same that Googles original intention is to invade your privacy. Google (screwed) is a Cointelpro operation.

Viva la scroogle & Open source browsers.

I'd be more concerned with the colossal bugs that have emerged in the first 24hours, but yes.. Would I install a browser owned by an advertising conglomerate who like nothing more that to store as much of my personal data as they can on their servers????....No

And those who have..... well I'm sure you all think Google is hip, cool and Appley.. Drink up boys.. Drink up.

reply to post by yellowcard


Right Click, view source scroll to bottom of page and see Googles tracking scripts (google-analytics.com/urchin.js), they track you on almost every website, and since it's at the other end we can do nothing about it.

And until ATS remove these tracking scripts I think they should remove this useless article from the front page.


As our privacy is in no way protected from google.

reply to post by spitefulgod


Lil off topic.

Firefox Noscript add on deflects those sites. as of now i am deflecting these sites while i visit ATS (or any other site almost).

Quantserve.com
quantcast.com
and the google anal-ytics

i also use Adblock plus, foxy proxy & peer guardian2.

[edit on 5-9-2008 by Bringer]

[edit on 5-9-2008 by Bringer]

I don't get Google Chrome.

I've tried it. I don't see what the big deal is...

FireFox and Safari seem to be the more capable browsers, and Chrome is based on Apple's WebKit rendering engine, anyway.

I like the anti-aliasing of text best on Safari, too.

This certainly makes me less enthusiastic about Chrome. It seems to be a solution looking for a problem.

reply to post by Bringer


Yeah, I use IE7Pro AdBlocker but you have to remove google analytics from it's default "Allow" setting.

I would use firefox although I find the font rendering not to my liking and I generally prefer MS products becuase I'm Bill bitch.

Like you've stated, I would suggest that anyone blocks google scripts if they can because they are EVIL.

reply to post by yahn goodey


Ive decided to start using Firefox after I had a REALLY unbeleivably annoying virus called "2008 anti-spyware virus". it shut off accsess to the web from my IE, and everytime I tried to use it it redirected me to a website, advertising it has the only program available that can remove the the virus. After I had a computer whiz of a neighbor fix the problem for me I went with Firefox, and have loved it ever since. The only thing I am having a problem with is that whenever I go to a website that requires a flash player, it wont load the video or whatever,,says I need to add the plugin for the player, and yet everytime I DO add the plugin it doesnt werk..anyone have any ideas on whats wrong or what Im doing wrong?

Originally posted by Bringer Viva la scroogle & Open source browsers.

Chrome IS Open Source (and under the much less restrictive BSD license as compared to Firefox's GPL/MPL).

I swear, people just do not do any research around here.

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reply to post by dreadphil


i am no genius but would help you if i could---have been learning the hard way by making stupid mistakes that end up opening this computer to hacker attacks.
the only reason i did not continue on with the instructions on how to down load adobe flash was because microsoft wanted me to close firefox or any other web browsers except theirs to supposedly give it too me and my experiences with trusting bill gates company up till this computer being destroyed the last time has removed all faith that something bad would not take place as a result.
i can live without videos if that has to be just to stay on the safe side.

Lets all talk about our ad blocker programs! yeah yeah! yeah yeah!

Terms and Conditions of ATS

4b) Ad Blockers: As AboveTopSecret.com is provided as a free service, in part through the income of our advertising, you agree not to use "ad-blocking" software or similar built-in web browser options while using the website(s).

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's a pretty fast browser, but it is constantly asking to connect to the internet, even AFTER you have closed down the program (little .exe running in the background - and it comes back even if you cltr+alt+delete and close it from the Task Manager).

I uninstalled it, I don't care if it's innocuous, I don't like programs accessing the internet without my knowledge or permission.

I like how when you uninstall, it says (was it something we said?)

What a bunch of ass flap.

reply to post by Sheridan


Google simply copy-and-pasted their EULA from their online services. This is not the actual EULA of Chrome once it is out of beta.

And EULAs have not been challenged in court yet, so they mean nothing.

"11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights that you already hold in Content that you submit, post or display on or through the Services.
There are no qualifying sub-sections at all. "

is it just me or is it possible for google to still use your stuff?

"... rights that you already hold ..."

seems to say to me that if you haven't bought a copyright for the video/post/graphic that you put out on the net, they can still use it. when you post things such as this are you automatically entitled to some form of copyright?

reply to post by Sliick


They're implying that you retain all copyrights you usually would. Ie, if you made it, it's yours.

At first I was irked by this, but after they corrected the EULA, I decided to check on where they got the original EULA from.

Yep... almost identical in every way shape and form to the EULA of their online services.
They cut and pasted it... not realizing what they were implying when you apply that EULA to a web browser.

They've fixed it. I read the new EULA, and I have no issues with it.


I've installed Chrome now, and I have no problems with it either. It's basically identical to all other browsers, only the address bar is dual role address, search... and seamless too.
All menus have been pulled out of view so you can see more of the page... it seems pretty decent to me. Haven't experienced any bugs yet.


Google's really not sinister. I know they're the new big kid on the net, but they've done nothing bad that compares to Microsoft.

... or a certain purple monkey I seem to remember.

They retracted the wording...but even having had it in the agreement in the first place proves what kind of sick minds are scheming behind the scenes.

reply to post by Dulcimer


i have no idea if i am doing something wrong by using the firefox browser that the tech left me with after he repaired this computer.what he told me was that the hackers like to go after windows/microsoft and bulk at firefox/linux/and some others i can't remember.
from what i have seen on cnn and the bbc not too long ago, hackers have learnt how to impersonate windows,cnn,adobe flash,google etc.so you have to be careful what you really answer to if they or their hacker clones try to contact you.i delete most of my hotmail now when i don't recognize who they might be.