John McCain and Sarah Palin are the outsiders...

John McCain and Sarah Palin are the outsiders...


Looking at the major party Presidential and vice Presidential candidates since Ronald Reagan left office in 1989 on bold fact stuck out at me and that is that nearly all of them went to Elite Ivy League American Colleges. In each case the eventual winner of the Presidency came from Yale or Harvard. Jimmy Carter went to the Naval Academy the only Naval Academy graduate to become president, and Ronald Reagan Went to Eureka College.

Past Candidates
George W Bush Yale, Harvard
Dan Quayle Indiana university of Law, Depauw University

Bill Clinton Georgetown, Oxford, Yale
Al Gore Harvard, Vanderbilt

George H W Bush Yale
Dick Cheney University of Wyoming

John Kerry Yale Boston College
John Edwards North Carolina State, University of North Carolina

Present Candidates
Barack Obama Columbia , Harvard
Joe Biden University of Delaware, Syracuse


John Mc Cain Naval Academy
Sarah Palin University of Idaho

Also Ran Candidates
Hillary Clinton Wellesley College Yale
Mitt Romney Brigham Young, Harvard
Joe Lieberman Yale


The only Candidates on this List where the at least one of the Presidential and vice Presidential candidates tickets are not from on of the Elite Schools is the McCain/Palin ticket. I am thinking maybe it is time we took a deeper look at where are candidates are coming from. Maybe it is time we elected someone not from on of these so called Elite Ivy League Schools. I also think that because the McCain/Palin ticket does not feature one of these Elite School Candidates the Main Steam Media will be particularly vicious in campaigning against them.

Thats my view from the nest..

open to other thoughts and opinions...

Nice post and those Ivy League schools are the schools with the secret societies AKA New World Order.

The message is clear, if America really wants change then vote for McCain/Palin.

Thinking of it in NWO terms which I really dont want, The Obama/Biden ticket is now dangerous because of the Harvard connection. It is obvious we have been snookered several times in a row and the only way to shake up Washington is McCain/Palin. I am thinking the reason the main stream media is hitting Sarah Palin so hard is because McCain tripped them up and did not take either of the Harvard man Romney or the Yale man Lieberman.

Folks seem to think that Obama is going to be assassinated and I think that may have been the case until he tripped them up and picked Biden who is not from an Elite school, and skipped over Clinton The Yale woman. This may be the reason he picked Biden, whom I thought was an awful VP pick for Obama. Also of note is that Biden is still running for his Senate reelection so Obama isnt a done deal yet.

I think if McCain would have picked a Harvard or Yale man he would have been either assassinated or controlled by the NWO crowd. Now the NWO is pissed and have decided to destroy his VP pick by any means neccessary.

So in a way both candidates have tripped up the NWO, the problem is we do not how in the tank for the NWO Obama is. It could be that Obama is an insurgent candidate from within the Elite. I doubt this and I think he was chosen to make sure the Democrats locked up the Black vote and make sure that the Black vote actually shows up at the polls, lets face it another white/white ticket like Kerry/Edwards doesnt exactly energize the Black voter.

Very, Very smart Thread I will star and Flag

Glad someone else can see, that Obama is the GW of this round, he has the globalist agenda... The Yale Harvard Connection is... enough already!

Too much, here's your connection, here is the deal Call it NeoCon NWO... a Big stupid Fraternity

It's all thes ame crowd, McCain signaled that...he was out of that loop when he Chose Sarah Palin

They have my vote, Obama is another side of the same agenda for sure

The McCain/Palin ticket is definitely the anti NWO ticket. Wether you agree/disagree with McCain, I can say this I have met the man and he is sincere in what he believes, there is no deception on his part. I also believe he is the only candidate besides Ron Paul that can bring about real change. Yes he has been in Washington for a long time and he knows how the insiders work, But consider this, he is at the end of his political career, He can go to the White House and truly move for reform, because he has no intention of staying, This is his last shot and he can become the Maverick that he was in the early days.

His pick for VP is very telling she, is a total outsider wether you agree with her views or not, she is the closest thing we have had to a common person coming to the whitehouse since Andrew Jackson. The media will make a great deal of hay about her not being educated at an Elite school, already there are rumblins about how she changed schools many times before obtaining here degree. She wasnt on a scholarship apparently and paid her own way, She still managed to get her degree in 5 years while changing schools 6 times. I think this shows she was determined to get her education no matter what. She is not an Elite school lawyer and niether is McCain, maybe the there is hope for the Republic after all.

The biggest objection to Sarah Palin that many seem to have is her anti abortion stance, She will not be writing or even signing any laws Roe Vs Wade even if overturned would just throw the decision back to the states, I dont think there is any state in the Union that would actually outlaw abortion, restrict it maybe but not outlaw it.

We have a choice now, become the NWO/Socialist Republic nightmare we have all be dreading and warning of on this website for years, or take a real chance at change and save these United States.

We might find that McCain having actually been in War , will go to great lengths to avoid it despite some bad joke making on his part, Jokes are not policy. We might also find that he has very different views on Gitmo, torture, and The Patriot Act( The original patriot act was authored by Joe Biden after the Oklahoma City Bombing ,for those who want to research that, and he has bragged about on camera) than George Bush.

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reply to post by DarkStormCrow

I also think that because the McCain/Palin ticket does not feature one of these Elite School Candidates the Main Steam Media will be particularly vicious in campaigning against them.

Great post!!! I've tried to look at things from all angles and this never once crossed my mind and I belive it is definitly worth looking into!



I'll be flagging this thread and thanks for a fresh new angle!!

Jemison

Originally posted by DarkStormCrow
John McCain and Sarah Palin are the outsiders...

The only Candidates on this List where the at least one of the Presidential and vice Presidential candidates tickets are not from on of the Elite Schools is the McCain/Palin ticket. I am thinking maybe it is time we took a deeper look at where are candidates are coming from. Maybe it is time we elected someone not from on of these so called Elite Ivy League Schools. I also think that because the McCain/Palin ticket does not feature one of these Elite School Candidates the Main Steam Media will be particularly vicious in campaigning against them.

Thats my view from the nest..

open to other thoughts and opinions...

Interesting. I just finished posting a similar conclusion. (At least about Palin.) She's very refreshing. A straight-shooter. A big majority of Americans like that, especially the country-western folk. Meanwhile, most Americans don't graduate from college, so who do you think they will favor? (Only 29 percent of Americans have a college degree.)

Well if Americans go by what the media tells them they will vote for the Obama/Biden ticket, I am not sure that is an absolute disaster, but I do know it is not good.

To me college degrees are way overated, I have a couple myself, but I have only worked in a job where my degrees were relevant once in my life. Americans value common sense, they got snowed by the Bush administration, with the I am from Texas and just common folk like you are. In this race McCain is closer to the common folks, money and houses not withstanding, and Palin is common folks and it shows by the media coverage.

If McCain wins, look for a Palin/Jindal ticket in 2012, McCain just wants one term to get the reform rolling, Palin is the one to take the reform into the future.

Originally posted by DarkStormCrow

If McCain wins, look for a Palin/Jindal ticket in 2012, McCain just wants one term to get the reform rolling, Palin is the one to take the reform into the future.

I don't know Jindal. Looking at a Tonight Show youtube of him, he seems to have a similar honest-joe look to him as Palin... What I'd like to see is someone with native American ancestry in that 2012 vp slot.

[edit on 9/5/2008 by Matrix1111]

I find that the Palin Derangement Sydrome has apparently gripped the Nation and ATS.

For years I have watched folks on this site decry and whine about the Political establishment and the NWO, NAU ect ect. John McCain in a surprise move picks a total outsider as his VP (wasnt a suprise to me I dont know why the media didnt do thier homework). I mean isnt this what our country is supposed to be about a candidate that is closer to one of us(the people) than any other in my entire lifetime. PTA, City council, small town mayor, Governor, takes on the establishment in both parties and wins has an 70-80 % approval rating in her home state. She meets the requirement Citizen Natural Born, 35 years of Age, lived in the US for the past 14 years, thats the constitutional requirement.

Is there now some elite test must she now be a lawyer from an elite school and a Washington DC insider?

I am not saying you should vote for her or agree with her on any issue and I am not saying she is perfect, but isnt it nice for a change that we have someone truly from the outside.

I dont know if the media seeking to destroy her at all costs comes from her being an outsider, or if it is just a matter of the media being caught flat footed and not having done thier research. In the last two weeks she has had to endure more slanders and vetting than her oppositions Presidential candidate has had in the las 2 years.

Take another look at her and her record and give her a fair shake, dont buy into everything the MSM and the bloggers try and feed to you.

Thats my view from the nest....

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Originally posted by Matrix1111
I don't know Jindal. Looking at a Tonight Show youtube of him, he seems to have a similar honest-joe look to him as Palin... What I'd like to see is someone with native American ancestry in that 2012 vp slot.

[edit on 9/5/2008 by Matrix1111]

Jindal is young, very bright, conservative, and a fast rising star in politics. The way he showed leadership during this hurricane season as opposed to the inept governor during Katrina proved that. The contrast between the two is dramatic.

Another Republican I really like is Michael Steele of Maryland.

I think that conservatism is once again on the rise in America, and we will have a good selection of energetic, bright candidates over the next ten years. The American public is mainly conservative, and want a return to sanity to replace the "Do Nothing" Democrat Congress now occupying space in DC.

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reply to post by DarkStormCrow


My research in looking at all Presidential and VP candidates from 1972 to the present tells me that in 15 out of 40 cases, the candidate earned his terminal degree from either Harvard or Yale (other than Bush's Harvard MBA, all others were J.D. degrees).

What did the candidates study? In 21 of 40 cases it was law, 8 were degrees in economics, 5 were in political science or government, three instances (McCain once, Carter twice) were degrees from the Naval Academy, one was a Ph.D. in history (McGovern), one was a BS in physical education (Kemp), and one was a bachelor's degree in economics (Palin).

Kemp, you may recall, was a famous record-holding footbal star in the AFL.

reply to post by DarkStormCrow


McCain. Real change. Put into the same sentence?

Did the LHC kick up again?



This man isn't just a liar, he's a feeble minded idiot! Totally oblivious. Probably the most dishonest person on the stage since the end of the primaries. He has no idea what is even going on with the economy and you want him to lead us into what could potentially be the darkest age of modern American history?

We have a stage full of bull#ters, and this man just happens to be one of the best.


Edit: End of the primaries* Not the beginning. Put in a line up with Giuliani, he's a saint.

[edit on 26-9-2008 by DeadFlagBlues]

If some guy went to DeVry, and wanted to be president......
Would that make them an outsider?

Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are outsiders, shunned by their own parties most of the time.

John McCain is no outsider. In fact he's a panderer.