Alex Jones - This guy turns truth into horror movies

My first impression on his style was that that isnt how I would do it. But then again Im not doing anything, so I guess overall, I respected him. This was before I started going to his website. I had only watched a few of his films and interviews for free on youtube or google video. But after visiting his site pretty frequently these past 2 weeks, I've noticed something kind of sadening, for lack of a better term. He sells everything. And not, buy alot and share the info cheap. Like 20 dollars a DVD. So apparently, not only is freedom not free, but neither is truth. It's actually quite expensive.
The real issue here is not that the guy is trying to make money, its the fact that he is using our obvious desire for truth as a way to make $. His slogan at infowars.com is "because there is a war going on for your mind". Everywhere you look they are giving you sippets of infomation, trying to entice you into buying it. I swear it reminds me of a porn site. He gives you all these clips that bombard you with fear and excitement, only to leave you wanting more. Sex isnt the only thing that sells. So does fear, and also to the stronger of mind, truth. It really makes me question his motives. I want to like the guy and what hes doing, I really do. It just seems suspicious that he would charge so much and allow his websites to be laid out the way they are.
Sadly, I beleive he is purposely fearmongering for profit. He may even have a strong desire for truth as well, but he certainly doesnt have it. -The elite are all imbred, psychos, that want to kill us for the fun of it.- I mean alex... the info is great, but your opinions are... well they're lame. This guy turns truth into horror movies - that just became my headline. Watch any of his documentaries, tell me you dont feel like making some popcorn and snuggling next to a significant other. Maybe even hiding under the covers at certain parts. This is not what learning looks like. This is what entertainment looks like. I, personally, hold much less respect for what he beleives. I would suggest researching everything he says and if it is not collaborated or hes not taking info from documented sources, completely disregard it. Let his 15 mins of real actual info in his 1hr 30min movies lead you to your own conclusion.

Thoughts?

Agree?

Disagree?

reply to post by Looking4LikeMindz


Everyone needs to make money, it's part of our enslavement.

As for A. Jones himself, well, I don't agree with everything he says and I'm sure there is some agenda there, but I would take him over almost any elected official in the western world.

My biggest gripe with him is the fearmongering and the incendiary rock music. If he ever crosses the line into violent resistance I would probably stop listening to his show, something I only do ocasionally anyway.

And as for the elites... well, to know them is to repudiate them.

He actually encourages people to burn copies of his dvd and hand them out, you can get them for free online. If you want the actually physical dvd in the box then you have to buy it.

He does give his info for free. I listen to his show for free through shoutcast radio.


He has huge bills to pay, gotta make money somehow. But I don't see him rich off this, I actually believe he is out for good.

For every one DVD he sells there are likely 50,000 free downloads of his movies on Google Video or as a torrent on the pirate bay. He has the for sale stuff so that people that want to support his efforts can do so and he can keep working full time on what he feels most strongly about. I started listening to Alex when he was on Austin Access back in the early 90's. He was always a hot head, and a big stormy preacher type but that is his style, that is the juice that keeps him going all these years.

He certainly is the angry white guy, middle aged, bit of a gut, and mad as hell that the world is going to hell around him and so few seem to care. I do not agree with every thing he says but I know that he is a sincere individual who says what he thinks and is right more than he is wrong for the most part. He will also admit when he is wrong which you could not get most of the talking heads on TV to do if their lives depended on it.



[edit on 9/2/2008 by UFOTECH]

Yes, you've got exactly the same opinion of A. Jones I have. The biggest atraction for me in his show is the feeling I constantly get that he's telling it like it is.

Sure, someone might pull his strings, we all have a culture and all culture is subject to elitist manipulation, but I do believe he has good intentions.

And to repeat myself, we all have to make money in this selfish world. For now.

I knew I realized exactly how free his stuff was, but after hearing some replies... I guess I have to say I agree. I know hes taking advantage of the "weak" wth his sites, but non the less someone IS going to take advantage of their extra money, might as well be the "good guys". Sounds good, thank you for your replies. I dont get this kind of communication from my peers. Or not anyone ive met yet, at least. Thank you, and I guess things will be what they will be. Que sera sera

As a few other people have said Alex Jones programs are free unless you wish to have a DVD in your hot little hand,his information is great and has opend my eyes to alot of bs that we get fed in our every day life.

Only a few weeks back he was talking about how much it cost to run his show,as it had been put to him he was trying to make money off people with fear
His reply was if i wanted to make money i would go do another job.

I can not remember every thing he said but it cost $14000 a month just to run the radio-servers =$168 thou a year Not cheap and thats not wages inc

So if he has to try and make some money then good luck to him i say keep up the good work Alex

Here's Endgame...

video.google.com...

Just type in Alex Jones, Jordan Maxwell or whoever in google and click the video button, that's how I watch them.

Man, I am feeling old. I rememberAlex Jones maybe 20 or 25 years ago when he was just a kooky local character driving around Austin Texas with a speaker on the roof of his car, ranting and raving...I thought he was great, a real "take it to the streets" kind of guy. Definitely didn't seem to be a money-grubber...more just one of those local but lovable nutcases who is vaguely "on our side" (whatever that means).

Now he's this big international web presence...well, more power to him sez I. Its somehow heartening to see people like that make it.

I think you're sort of overlooking the fact that what the average American person responds to IS entertainment. It's 10% information, 90% presentation, that works with people. How do you think the PTB stay in power?

I've been listening to Alex's radio show on and off for about a year, and have seen many of his films. I believe he's sincere - he takes things a bit too far sometimes but it's in his personality. He has an agenda - we all do - but violence is not something he supports (although some of his guests have suggested this.)

He also shows you his sources so you can try to discredit any of the information he presents. People too often put people down but don't have a valid/thought out reason. If there's something wrong with the information Alex puts out, discredit him. When you look at the big picture - society as a whole has been dumbed down and it's hard to tell the difference between fact and fiction anymore.

If you Produce Documentaries you also have a Staff that needs to be paid.
The maintenance of his website needs to be done by someone,
who wants also to be paid for his Job.
The Cost for the NET-Traffic of his site must be paid to the ISP, costs again money!
He travels a lot through the US for his Documentaries that needs also to be paid. (Flights/Hotels etc..)
Believe me this man has a monthly budget that first has to be earned i think thats not so easy.
And the rest people are saying that he's doin' it all for the money thats
crackerbarrel-Talk.
Thats my opinion!

[edit on 1-10-2008 by D0MiNAT0R 1OOO]

I like Alex Jones, but I dont agree with everything he shows people- I mean I do, but I think some of it is even deeper than he knows. I think he presents an elementary view of the truth, when I think he should dig even deeper and expose the roots of the issues he is bringing to the front.

Furthermore, I believe the truth is somewhat horrific once discovered. The more I learn, the less comfort I feel in this world.

[edit on 10/3/08 by c00ster]

I will tell you the truth because it is meaningless unless someone believes it.

Every one of us knows the truth it is not a question of not knowing, because truth is written into the fabric of everything even consciousness itself.

The truth cannot be misunderstood or unknown by anyone who is capable of asking within themselves the question what is true, believing that God will give them the answer.

It isn’t that we don’t know the truth, is that we choose not to believe it, but rather we prefer to believe lies.

The lies we tell ourselves permits us to go on pursuing our own interest, ironically knowing full well that our life is not our own and we are not free.

The idea that you or I need another human being to tell us what the truth is, that somehow we can’t know the truth because it exists outside of us, and to know it we must come into proximity of it so it can be discerned by the use of one or a combination of our five physical senses, that is one life’s greatest absurdities.

The truth is not commercially viable, because you can’t sell people something they already own a full measure of.

Let me explain the situation to you using gangster language; Wisdom is power not knowledge, and the man who tells you that knowledge is power is a real wise-guy.

If you want to tell yourself that this world is not ruled by an unseen evil force which is not human, that is your choice but it will still be true.

None of us are required to believe the truth but it is literally impossible at a certain level of consciousness for any single one of us not to know it, all we need to do is stop lying to ourselves.

Again, as someone pointed out earlier, you are absolutely FREE to copy and distribute his movies.

I sent an e-mail to them years ago, and asked if that was permissible. They responded that it absolutely was.

Listen to all of the ads, spooky music and talk about the end is near. It's one thing to warn people about vaccines but using that deep serious voice to slang soap and MRE food. Let's not forget the guy who is a frequent "guest" selling collectible gold coins.

He's always making insane leaps and connections from very little or no evidence. Often he will deliver very mixed messages for instance, he slammed the creator of Zeitgeist and made up things about the film, tried to connect Krishnamurti with Hitler, called people who like Zeitgeist "mindless" after he himself claimed not fully watching it. He kept saying Peter Joseph was "making fun" of Christians, which is totally a lie, claiming that in Addendum he somehow is attacking spirituality and calling for a world, socialized government. He took Jiddu Krisnamurti's association with the theosophical society, which ended in 1935, as some sort of sign that he was a secret soldier for socialism, when Jiddu preaches against it.

To the contrary, he often touts his "Nobel Prize Winning" guest Joseph Stiglitz a guy who helped make the biggest global warming scam movie ever "An Inconvenient Truth" as well as authoring two books about how "Globalization" is a great thing... Alex NEVER brings those up...

Or on the topic of religion, how about having on Mel Gibson's father who says the Holocaust was exaggerated... Alex didn't pose any argument at all. He just let the guy rant for a half hour. Ale

I don't think Peter Joseph's films are perfect. Nor do I think he is pedaling socialist garbage. The Venus Project has been greatly distorted by Alex Jones. He has created this division of his fans and Zeitgeist fans by using lies, assumptions and complete misinterpretations of it's sentiment. Which is solely an idea, based on the scientific method, rather then organized religion, to escape indoctrinated slavery, greed and tyranny created by the global banking elites carefully designed, fiat currency, fractional banking, monetary worship, BS, ponzi scheme.

It says nothing in there manifesto about "Global Governance" or alienation based on religions, beliefs or spirituality. It does not claim to be a "Utopia" as Alex Jones incessantly says that it does. It actually says, everyone should have their own spiritual beliefs without ridicule, and offers a resource based solution.

The creator Jacques Fresco, says it over and over, not a utopia, it has it's flaws but is a start. A new idea based on people, not profit. Not on indoctrination. Not based on fear.

The way Alex conducted the interview with Peter Joseph was a sad display. I lost a lot of respect for him that day. Not for his argument but for his sandbox, FOX style tactics. Calling him names, making grunting noises, using profanity, and jumping to HUGE conclusions. Then admitting later, he never watched the entire film. It takes a certain type of person to lie of the top of ones head and call it truth.

Alex is very defensive of his religious beliefs, his use of the psychological commerce trick "$19.99" instead of just charging $20. I don't know if his motives for starting a war with this guy are based on having to share his fan-base with a guy who he feels is a threat to his income, if he really thinks he's an "undercover agent" or if he just plain psychotic. Maybe a bit of all.

Jordan Maxwell is the one who woke me up, not Alex Jones or Peter Joseph. Jordan has shown over and over how Christianity, Judaism and all other organized religions are meant to mislead you at there very core. On Alex's show he never really gets to far into it with Mr. Maxwell. You'll hear Alex say organized religion is bad but also say he believes in Jesus Christ in the same sentence?

I am not telling anyone what to believe. That is the beauty of our freedom, as Joseph and Fresco point out, but it is interesting the duality of TRUTH Alex Jones sells for $19.99. It's good he let's people copy his films but take it with a truck load of salt. Alex loves fear.

Originally posted by silent thunder
Man, I am feeling old. I rememberAlex Jones maybe 20 or 25 years ago when he was just a kooky local character driving around Austin Texas with a speaker on the roof of his car, ranting and raving...

You're not that old. Although the idea of a 9-14 year old Alex Jones screaming through a car-loudspeaker setup is kind of amusing.

He was born in 1974.

Alex Jones publishes corrections to his mistakes online and on the air. Just like any other publication is legally obligated to do.

Google: Bilderberg Group
Google:Alex Jones Bohemian Grove (he exposes them),
Google: NSPDD-51 - this is on the .gov websites
Google: REX- 84, RX 84 Alex Jones - also on
Google: Continuity of Government, John Warren Defense Commission -.gov
Google: John Yoo Torture Memo
Google: Patriot Act 1 & 2

These are the documents Alex talk about and quotes most often. There are others, but these Seven are the more important ones. "We have the Documents People!!" - now you do too

It takes a week to read the first Patriot Act - it takes a month if you have the required treatise and documents it references.

Alex has read them, now it's your turn....

Check your Local Library for these documents. Any Central Library will also have them all. Also Check the .gov websites - they will have the information you are looking for, and you can access it all from your PC. Good Luck.

I hope you make good use of the valuable resources the other members and myself have provided you with. If you choose not to - at least they are now here for anyone to see and use.

FOIA Reading Room

Every Declassified Document ever Released Can found Here

Now you have everything you need to find everything you want - so long as it's declassified

TruthTellist

[edit on 24-10-2008 by TruthTellist]

I can't help thinking Alex Jones is constructing a home made Robot of Lies made up of old and still functioning bits of fact. Even when he does a subject I have an interest in he total Barnum's it up until even I feel embarrassed.

He turns Bilderburger into Hamburger and Government conspiracy into confectionary.

reply to post by Looking4LikeMindz


I made this point several times on other AJ related threads. The guy is a loud mouth salesman of fear and paranoia propeganda. Nothing more, nothing less.

If this guy was really into providing people the truth about whats going on, he would not need to sell any of that information. To me, he would be far more credible, even with the loud mouth shouting and hand waving, if he simply asked for donations to further the cause instead of turning infowars.com into a info4salewars.com storefront.

Im sure he appreciates all those who buy his stuff so he can pay for his bunker below his ranch house while all those who bought that crap are left out in the cold when anything he says will happen..happens.

Wonder if he is making room for all his fans in his superbunker?

I doubt it.


Cheers!!!!