Georgia admits dropping cluster bombs, says rights group

reply to post by NorthWolfe CND


more BS as usual from an ignorant american,

it was a situation of Genocide , that georgia was carrying against russian-ossetian citizens with the backing of the genocidal imperialist american empire


Russian response was correct and not on lies , unlike your Fascist USA lies of WMD to commit genocide in Iraq and steal its oil

reply to post by manson_322


First of all, I'm pretty sure that if I started this post with "more BS from an Ignorant Asian" the post would be removed and I'd have points deducted. I'm sure your similar comment will be left alone though, since they always are... I just wanted to leave a little gripe about that.

But second, you say Russia didn't start the war on lies. Yet people have posted dozens of links here at ATS revealing that Russia intentionally inflated the casualties of the strike on South Ossetia. That's a MAJOR lie, because there is a big difference, legally and politically speaking, between heavy collateral damage and genocide.

And no, I'm not reposting those links just because your tunnel vision skipped over them the first time. If you care about intelligent conversation instead of spewing propaganda you can do a search on your own time.

At any rate... how does the simple act of being Russia suddenly make the use of cluster bombs acceptable if they weren't okay before? Didn't you yourself just post something a few days back about "hypocrisy?" You really have me wondering about you. Your obsessive, manic hatred of an entire country of people is flat out appalling. It's probably just plain unhealthy to be that infatuated with hating (and according to some of your posts, killing, nuking, or using biological weapons against) 300 million people just because of where they live.

By the way... Internet... American invention. If you hate us so much, kindly quit using our stuff. :-)

Originally posted by manson_322
reply to post by NorthWolfe CND

 

more BS as usual from an ignorant american,

it was a situation of Genocide , that georgia was carrying against russian-ossetian citizens with the backing of the genocidal imperialist american empire


Russian response was correct and not on lies , unlike your Fascist USA lies of WMD to commit genocide in Iraq and steal its oil

I see you still love keeping people stirred up, don`t you? More BS from an ignorant American? How about more BS from a person who never has been to America, or truly even knows it`s people. You say your against the use of these bombs, but in a topic you posted in an other forum, you would like to see nukes used on America.

Edit: Just to say your other topic was locked and the deleted. I bet you wonder why?

[edit on 4-9-2008 by FiatLux]

reply to post by mattifikation

But second, you say Russia didn't start the war on lies. Yet people have posted dozens of links here at ATS revealing that Russia intentionally inflated the casualties of the strike on South Ossetia. That's a MAJOR lie, because there is a big difference, legally and politically speaking, between heavy collateral damage and genocide.

and there are several links and threads exposing the flaws of those reports :

www.abovetopsecret.com...

there are several eye witnesses about several hundreds dead.....

The South Ossetians claim 1,400 dead, thus far, most of them victims of the Georgian assault on Tskhinvali, and Vladimir Putin went so far as to accuse the Georgians of launching a "genocide." According to the BBC, however, "Russia failed to back up its claims of Georgian atrocities." Not that the West is all that interested in airing the evidence. As Variety put it in a piece on how this war is being reported,

"Coverage in the U.S. and Europe is leaning heavily toward reports on the Georgian casualties of Russian bombing over the weekend. Few details are being given about the thousands said to have been killed when Georgia attacked Tskhinvali, the capital of South Ossetia, on Thursday and Friday."

The blatant media bias displayed by the "mainstream" news organizations is more than matched by the shameful cover-up of Georgian atrocities by the mainline "human rights" organizations, first and foremost Human Rights Watch. In the most brazen display of willful ignorance since Walter Duranty overlooked the Soviet gulags, HRW spokeswoman Anna Neistat told the Guardian that Ossetian claims of Georgian atrocities were "suspicious":

"The figure of 2,000 people killed is very doubtful. Our findings so far do not in any way confirm the Russian statistics. On the contrary, they suggest the numbers are exaggerated."

Neistat avers that no more than 44 were killed and around 200 were wounded in the Georgian attack on Tskhinvali. Perhaps she should talk to International Red Cross spokeswoman Anna Nelson, who reports area hospitals "overflowing" with the dead and the wounded.
antiwar.com...

and yes on more on HRW propagnada, look at what it does , claims it was stated by a doctor(whose identity they claim is secret and cannot be disclosed) :

HRW called the Russian death toll figure of 2,000 unfounded, citing a doctor who said that between August 6 to 12 the hospital treated 273 wounded, more military than civilian. The doctor also said that 44 bodies had been brought to the hospital since the fighting began, both military and civilian. According to HRW, "the doctor was adamant that the majority of people killed in the city had been brought to the hospital before being buried"

and as usual , the western media and HRW claims are flimsy at best , as they do not disclose the identity of so called alleged doctor

which , seems that HRW is spewinf propaganda , like other western media outlets , which are spewing one sided propaganda in favour of WEst

here are some eyewitness testimonies :

Fleeing resident Lyudmila Ostayeva, 50, told AP news agency: "I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings, in cars. It's impossible to count them now. There is hardly a single building left undamaged." International Red Cross spokeswoman Anna Nelson said it had received reports that hospitals in Tskhinvali were "overflowing" with casualties.
news.bbc.co.uk...

bodies lying around buildings as witnesses stated and Red Cross and UNO have different things to say , rather than HRW version , which does not even name the alleged doctor

and several others , but HRW and other groups fail to provide proof for the flimsy claims they make ....

they have not named the alleged doctor firstly, on whose basis they make

also, heres a link showing the extensive damage to South Ossetian cities :

in.youtube.com...

Refugees 'escape horror' of South Ossetia battle

Posted Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:40pm AEST
Updated Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:27pm AEST
A South Ossetian woman cries as a girl sleeps on her lap

Russia's Education Minister says authorities will "look for children and people who are hiding in basements" (AFP: Natalia Kolesnikova)

* Related Link: Background: South Ossetia and Abkhazia

A 40-year-old woman stands in the middle of a footpath and bursts into tears after arriving with a convoy of refugees in the embattled Georgian enclave of South Ossetia.

"When the Russians arrived, we were so happy, and after they bombed them [the Georgians]," said the woman called Meri, referring to the Russian assault and air raids on Georgia that forced Tbilisi to pull back its troops from South Ossetia.

She arrived at Java, about 20 kilometres from the main city of Tskhinvali, with a group of refugees, mostly women, escorted by Russian soldiers.

They escaped from the "horror", the one word they all used to describe the scenes of attacks by Georgian troops, battling against Russian and Ossetian rebel forces over the past three days.

One woman told how a family of four including two children tried to flee from a Georgian tank but it "fired on their car and they were all burned" to death, said Angela, who like all the refugees only gave her first name.

In another incident, a woman eight months pregnant and two family members fleeing from the city under attack were hit by tank fire and "nothing remained of them," Angela said.

She saw the Georgian tanks roll into Tskhinvali, the soldiers shouting "Hail Saakashvili," who is the president of Georgia.

"They destroyed the city," added Inna, 33, who said she could not understand how the Georgian troops "could do that to civilians."

"You see your friend's home burning and there's nothing you can do. You just watch and cry, it's a genocide," Inna said.

An old woman among the refugees said all she had left was the dress she was wearing.

"My house is destroyed," she said.

At Java, a refugee camp of tents is being set up in a stadium by the Russian Ministry of Emergency Services, Education Minister Zamira Giova said.
www.abc.net.au...

look at what eye witnesses of the geniocide are saying and yet we have have organzations like HRW pulling out stupid claims that they cannot even support

Originally posted by FiatLux

Originally posted by manson_322
reply to post by NorthWolfe CND

 

more BS as usual from an ignorant american,


it was a situation of Genocide , that georgia was carrying against russian-ossetian citizens with the backing of the genocidal imperialist american empire


Russian response was correct and not on lies , unlike your Fascist USA lies of WMD to commit genocide in Iraq and steal its oil

I see you still love keeping people stirred up, don`t you? More BS from an ignorant American? How about more BS from a person who never has been to America, or truly even knows it`s people. You say your against the use of these bombs, but in a topic you posted in an other forum, you would like to see nukes used on America.

Edit: Just to say your other topic was locked and the deleted. I bet you wonder why?

[edit on 4-9-2008 by FiatLux]

see you still love keeping people stirred up, don`t you? More BS from an ignorant American? How about more BS from a person who never has been to America, or truly even knows it`s people. You say your against the use of these bombs, but in a topic you posted in an other forum, you would like to see nukes used on America.

nah, that thread was done to expose the hypocrisy of americans on ATS , who make catcalls for nuking Iran , or talk bull# about third worlders

liked the tasteof your own medicine??

Edit: Just to say your other topic was locked and the deleted. I bet you wonder why?

I wanted it to be doen away with and the mods listened to my request

reply to post by manson_322


Your comments are not only biggoted, but are utterly prejudiced and damn right contrary to the rules of this forum. I've heard your US hatred time and time before, your obviously not well acquainted with decorum and subsequently don't be suprised that people will stick you on the ignore button.

Originally posted by theblunttruth
reply to post by manson_322

 

Your comments are not only biggoted, but are utterly prejudiced and damn right contrary to the rules of this forum. I've heard your US hatred time and time before, your obviously not well acquainted with decorum and subsequently don't be suprised that people will stick you on the ignore button.

thats the opinion of ignorant westerners ,

anyways , i expose the fact that USA is a imperialist genocidal fascist empire

You want to respond to something Manson? Respond to this then.


I myself do not like wars, I never have and never will. I hate the fact that this country is in a war overseas. I think this war we are in is BS from the word go.

Now, with that said, what I find hard to understand, is the fact that you are against the US and the war that they are fighting. You claim they are killing millions of people over in the ME. Ok, I`m fine with your point there. I don`t like it either, myself. But what I find that is hard to swallow from you, is, you claim to hate the killing we do, but yet you want people over here killed. What`s the difference between the two? No difference at all. Killing people is killing people no matter what part of the world it is happening in. So where does that make you any different then Mr. Bush? Wanting to see someone killed because you don`t like the fact that they are killing? That has no logic to it at all. You sir, have a twisted sense of right and wrong. Like I said before, hate can cloud your thinking, and in the end, it`s going to eat you alive.

reply to post by FiatLux

but yet you want people over here killed. What`s the difference between the two? No difference at all. Killing people is killing people no matter what part of the world it is happening in. So where does that make you any different then Mr. Bush? Wanting to see someone killed because you don`t like the fact that they are killing? That has no logic to it at all. You sir, have a twisted sense of right and wrong. Like I said before, hate can cloud your thinking, and in the end, it`s going to eat you alive.

it is called creating fear of war .

because most westerners who support the killing of others in foreign lands , it is necessary to show the what war is ACTUALLY capable of ....

it is also necessary to have a taste of hate from the oppressed ....

reply to post by manson_322


That`s what I thought from the start. You are using fear to get it to stop. Well, that`s all fine and good, but understand, pushing fear as you are can go to far. It can backfire on you, and cause more hate in the end. Yes, fear can open many eyes, which is good in the end. But, for those who are dead set in their ways, it is like a call to arms in their minds. That can cause more harm then good, and who in their right mind wants that?



[edit on 5-9-2008 by FiatLux]

Originally posted by manson_322
reply to post by FiatLux

 

but yet you want people over here killed. What`s the difference between the two? No difference at all. Killing people is killing people no matter what part of the world it is happening in. So where does that make you any different then Mr. Bush? Wanting to see someone killed because you don`t like the fact that they are killing? That has no logic to it at all. You sir, have a twisted sense of right and wrong. Like I said before, hate can cloud your thinking, and in the end, it`s going to eat you alive.

it is called creating fear of war .

because most westerners who support the killing of others in foreign lands , it is necessary to show the what war is ACTUALLY capable of ....

it is also necessary to have a taste of hate from the oppressed ....

It's got nothing to do with injecting fear as a means. It's more to do with the fact that your a hypocrite who condemns US actions yet, condones those against the US. Regardless of country of residence, people everywhere are cool, it's those wishing death and destruction that aren't, and manson is guilty as charged.

Manson, do you not see the contradiction in your own statements, people like you are the exact ones that cause US adventures in the first place, you wish death and destruction upon states then cry foul when you reap the repurcussions!!!

[edit on 5-9-2008 by theblunttruth]

Irrespective of what happened in Georgia the main thing that did happen was that the US and Israel were caught red handed and with their pants down. Red handed because they were using Georgia for their planned attack on Iran and their pants down because they did not expect the Russians to react in the way they did.

This is substantiated by the US lying despot media machine and others I may add including the UK to try and make it look that it was Russia that stated all this when it did not. Thats not to say Russia was not aware what was going on but if the US started it Russia certainly finished it.

Also from the bigger picture point of view what will the war planners do now about attacking Iran knowing full well that Russia will support Iran and so will other countries. Maybe all those war mad patriots in their respective countries better start building their bunkers for when the nukes start flying. They wont be patriots for very long though will they.

Purposely targeting a civilian only population could potentially be a war crime, but combatants historically purposely hide in civillian populations. Their use in that case would be no different than a classic seige going way back to pre Roman times, where the besieged civilian population along with the combatants hold up in the stronghold suffer the same fate.
Ho hum history marches on.

None of which makes it less of a war-crime. Military should man up do what it has to and submit itself for prosecution. No one is above the law.

it is called creating fear of war .

because most westerners who support the killing of others in foreign lands , it is necessary to show the what war is ACTUALLY capable of ....

it is also necessary to have a taste of hate from the oppressed ....

Why is it that my 3 year old has to learn morals and self-restraint and seemingly no one else does?

Your post demonstrates illogic as the method you describe has never achieved the ends you describe. Ordinarily it wouldn't come up as a moral person would self-censor that thought as it came from the reptile brain...

It is very revealing that minus the weapons there is very little difference in the attitudes and mindsets of some of these posts than in the respective organizations and governments who are doing this for real...

The sources for all the articles you posted are basically Russian government press releases. You can't logically sit there and try to prove any sort of truthfulness in Russia's claims using nothing but Russia's claims. Circular logic is equal to straight idiocy, don't you get it?

Red Cross said hospitals were overflowing with casualties... well guess what, a hundred people will usually overflow a hospital. I feel bad for the people who were hurt or who lost family members, but it was a war, and that's just what happens.

If they didn't want to get caught in the crossfire, maybe their illegitimate, unrecognized government should have cracked down on the separatist rebels who had been firing mortars into Georgia before the retaliatory rocket attack took place.

Oooh, yeah I went there.

Originally posted by mattifikation
The sources for all the articles you posted are basically Russian government press releases. You can't logically sit there and try to prove any sort of truthfulness in Russia's claims using nothing but Russia's claims. Circular logic is equal to straight idiocy, don't you get it?

Red Cross said hospitals were overflowing with casualties... well guess what, a hundred people will usually overflow a hospital. I feel bad for the people who were hurt or who lost family members, but it was a war, and that's just what happens.

If they didn't want to get caught in the crossfire, maybe their illegitimate, unrecognized government should have cracked down on the separatist rebels who had been firing mortars into Georgia before the retaliatory rocket attack took place.

Oooh, yeah I went there.

so you deny that the georigia commited genocide , look here , theres a list of 350+ killed by georigan forces confirmed..

First victims of Ossetian War identified A complete list of all the victims of the conflict is not yet available as information is still being collected by South Ossetian authorities. The following are the names, dates of birth, causes of death and burial places of South Ossetian citizens so far confirmed killed in the fighting between the 7th and 12th of August 2008. 1. Ataev Alan Muratovich, 1971 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 2. Kelehsaev Murzaba V. , 1944 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Tbet village. 3. Petoev Albert S., 1943 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 4. Pliev Tamaz Sulikoevich, 1965 D. O. B. South Ossetian OMON police officer. Died during active duty. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 5. Melitoljan D., 1966 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 6. Valiev Aleksandr A. , 1946 D. O. B. Killed by a Georgian sniper during evacuation on Zarskoi road. 7. Ostaev Tauret S., 1957 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in Itrapis village. 8. Bosikov Guram H. , 1953 D. O. B. Killed by air strike. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 9. Tadtaev Sergey Lvovich, 1972 D. O. B. Burned in own car after it was shot by a Georgian tank. Buried on grounds of School No. 5. 10. Kozaev Suliko A. , 1940 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in Itrapis village. 11. Kachmazov Vadim L. , 1970 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire in Hetagurovo village. 12. Chovrebova Valya, 1940 D. O. B. Car hit by artillery fire. Buried in the courtyard of his apartment block. 13. Tedeev David Albertovich, 1988 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 14. Gazaev Valery M., 1957 D. O. B. Died during artillery strike on Satikar village. 15. Bagaev Nodar Grigorevich, 1957 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 16. Dzhioev Mitya, 45 y/o. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in Itrapis village. 17. Chovrebov Guram Ivanovich, 1948 D. O. B. Died during shelling of the city. Place of burial unknown. 18. Beteev Ivan Ilyich, 1956 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 19. Hugaev Vasily Ivanovich, 1954 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire in Hetagurovo village. 20. Bikoeva Liana Romanovna, 1957 D. O. B. Car hit by artillery fire. Buried in the courtyard of his apartment block. 21. Habalova Liana Romanovna, 1964, D. O. B. Hit by shrapnel from artillery shell. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 22. Tadtaev Ruslan Zaurovich, 1960 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire in Hetagurovo village. 23. Kumaritova Tamara Tuganovna, 1923 D. O. B. Hit by shrapnel from artillery shell. Buried in Tbet village. 24. Harebov Tamazi Georgievich, 1965 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 25. Tuaev Radion Vasilevich, 1987 D. O. B. Killed by air strike. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 26. Basiladze Linana Konstantinovna, 1926 D. O. B. Killed by a explosive mine. 27. Kabulov Alan Albogovich, 1959 D. O. B. Killed by air strike. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 28. Habalov Tajmuraz Soltanovich, 1960 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in Itrapis village. 29. Doguzova Lida Bagratovna, 1934 D. O. B. Died during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 30. Haradzishvili Angelina Dmitrievna, 1974 D. O. B. Killed during shelling of the city. Buried in Tbet village. 31. Chekhoev Abesalom B., 1967 D. O. B. Died during shelling of the city. Place of burial unknown. 32. Elbakieva Dina, 2005 D. O. B. Killed during shelling of the city. Buried in Tbet village. 33. Kabisova Jelza Zelimhanovna, 1966 D. O. B. Killed by shelling in Hetagurovo village. 34. Kadzhaev Vadim Vasilevich, 1966 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 35. Bestaev Vasily Gavrilovich, 1955 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Tbet village. 36. Gazzaev Genady Borisovich, 1982 D. O. B. Died during the conflict. Buried in a garden. 37. Sabanov Hamlet D., 1975 D. O. B. Killed by a tank shot. . Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 38. Kabulova Dusya Luarsabovna, 1927 D. O. B. Fatally wounded by shelling. . Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 39. Chovrebov Alan Dmitrievich, 1987 D. O. B. Killed by a tank shot. . Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 40. Bestaev Samson Sosoevich, 1940 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 41. Bestaeva Anna Antonovna, 1941 D. O. B. Killed when house was shelled. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 42. Kozaev Abe, 55 y/o. Died when house was struck by artillery. Buried in a garden. 43. Bestaeva Maria Georgievna, 1941 D. O. B. Killed when house was shelled. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 44. Gabaraev Georgy Sokratovich g. r. , s. 1954 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 45. Gabuev Givi Mihajlovich, 1929 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 46. Alborov Valter Oneginovich, 1974 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 47. Bestaev Anzor Sedirovich, 1963 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire in Hetagurovo village. 48. Dzhigkaeva Kristina Ruslanovna, 1997 D. O. B. Killed when tank shell exploded. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 49. Maldzigov Sevastia Stepanovich, 1965 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 50. Kuluhov Soslan Andreevich, 1946 D. O. B. Died during shelling of the city. Place of burial unknown. 51. Kozaeva Maria, 76 y/o. Burned in home during shelling. Buried in a garden. 52. Gojaev Vitaly Vasilevich, 1990 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 53. Mamiev Amiran Nikolaevich, 1941 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire in Hetagurovo village. 54. Dzhioev Botaz Davidovich, 1952 D. O. B. Killed by a tank shot. . Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 55. Bagaeva Olesya Givievna, 1983 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 56. Kozaev Valery Ivanovich, 1965 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 57. Bitarov Uruzmag, 1950 D. O. B. Killed by air strike. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 58. Hachirova Manana A. , 1955 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 59. Dzhussoev Mair Zaurovich, 1971 D. O. B. Burned alive in car when Georgians covered it in petrol and set it alight. Buried in Nagutni. 60. Dzhussoev Aslan Mairovich, 15 y/o. Burned alive in car when Georgians covered it in petrol and set it alight. Buried in Nagutni. 61. Dzhussoeva Dina, 14 y/o. Burned alive in car when Georgians covered it in petrol and set it alight. Buried in Nagutni. 62. Bigulaev Viktor I. , 1952 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 63. Kozaev Valery Ivanovich, 1965 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 64. Koroeva Lamzira Zaurovna, 1968 D. O. B. Killed when house was shelled. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 65. Gagloev Tajmuraz Antonovich, 1952 D. O. B. Burned in car after it was shelled by Georgian troops Buried in a garden. 66. Hubezhov Tajmuraz Sh, 1959 D. O. B. Killed by air strike. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 67. Dzhioeva Palina Sh., 1955 D. O. B. Killed in shelling of Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 68. Bikoev Efim Sergeevich, 1938 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Tbet village. 69. Kelekhsaeva Tasya Sobaevna, 1924 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 70. Gagloev Azamat Tajmurazovich, 18 y/o. Burned in car after it was shelled by Georgian troops. Buried in a garden. 71. Gubaev Vladimir Georgievich, 1956 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 72. Kachlaeva Zarina, 16 y/o. Killed when house was shelled. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 73. Bazzaev Vasily Vladimirovich, 1947 D. O. B. Burned in his own house when it was shelled. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 74. Dzhioev Renat Gergievich, 1980 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 75. Tibilov Inal Revazovich, 1940 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 76. Gagieva Zarema Gajozovna, 1961 D. O. B. Car hit by artillery fire. Buried in the courtyard of his apartment block. 77. Dzhigkaeva Inga Sergeevna, 1966 D. O. B. Killed when house was shelled. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 78. Beteev Inal Aleksandrovich, 1955 D. O. B. Died from wounds sustained during artillery bombardment of Tskhinval. Buried in Tbet village. 79. Tedeev Valerian T., 1972 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 80. Tedeeva Tamara Borisovna, 1947 D. O. B. Car hit by artillery fire. Buried in the courtyard of his apartment block. 81. Chovrebov Aslan Jurevich, 13. 01. 1985 D. O. B. Died during active duty. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 82. Dzeranov Auzbi Zaharevich, 1940 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 83. Habalov Batyrbeg Vasilevich, 1941 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 84. Gobozov Merab Georgievich, 1960 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 85. Tekhov Muharbeg Jakovlevich, 1977 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 86. Shanazarova Albina Chorshanbievna, 14 y/o. Shot by a Georgian sniper during evacuation on Zarskoi road. 87. Kuduhov Ramazi I. , 1982 D. O. B. Killed by air strike. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 88. Kozaev Shota Nikolaevich, 1951 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 89. Gagloev Murat Vasilevich, 1936 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Tbet village. 90. Chovrebova Malvina Borisovna, 1960 D. O. B. Pregnant. Died of a Georgian shell explosion. Buried in a garden. 91. Kokoev Vitalik Vardanovich, 1950 D. O. B. Died during shelling of the city. Place of burial unknown. 92. Tedeev Anatolij Tengizovich, 1960 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Tbet village. 93. Alborov Otar Gerasimovich, 1940 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 94. Dzhatieva Zalina H. , 1958 D. O. B. Killed when house was shelled. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 95. Valieva Madina Dzambolatovna, 01. 01. 1988 D. O. B. Died from Georgian sniper bullet. . Body had been hidden. Found by ‘Vostok Battalion’ troops. Buried in Djava. 96. Siukaev Anatolij A. , 1958 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 97. Tedeev Vasily Muhtarovich, 1956 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 98. Kisiev Ibragim Felikosvich. Killed by artillery fire in Hetagurovo village. 99. Doguzov Leonid Nikolaevich. Died during artillery strike on Satikar village. 100. Parastaev Aleksandr Aronovich, 1958 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 101. Valiev Ruslan Vladimirovich, 1955 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 102. Bestaev Ushang Mihajlovich, 1954 D. O. B. Killed when a car was shelled. Buried outside his house. 103. Gabaraeva Lyubov Georgievna, 1930 D. O. B. Car hit by artillery fire. Buried in the courtyard of his apartment block. 104. Gazaev Yury Konstantinovich, 1957 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Tbet village. 105. Doguzov Guram Konstantinovich, 1945 D. O. B. Killed by a Georgian sniper during evacuation on Zarskoi road. . 106. Loloev Otar Garsevanovich. Died in artillery strike on Dmenis village. 107. Hatdziev Suliko Utievich. Died in artillery strike on Dmenis village. 108. Cahilov Aslan Vladimirovich, 1960 D. O. B. Killed by air strike. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 109. Hubaev Valik Mihajlovich, 1950 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 110. Hubaev Amiran Vardenovich, 1937 D. O. B. Died during shelling of the city. Place of burial unknown. 111. Beteev Genady Borisovich, 1967 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 112. Gigolaev Boris Nestorovich, 1937 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 113. Nanieva Nina Ivanovna, 1956 D. O. B. Hit by shrapnel from artillery shell. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 114. Harebov Botaz Zaurovich, 1957 D. O. B. Killed by air strike. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 115. Alborov Oleg Zaurovich, 1955 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 116. Valiev Valery Pavlovich, 1961 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 117. Dzasohov Vladimir Dzandorovich, 1950 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 118. Maldzigov Gija Vladimirovich. Killed by artillery fire in Hetagurovo village. 119. Dzhioev Gergiej Alekseevich, 1943 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 120. Tadtaev Robert Sergeevich, 1963 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 121. Kabisov Slavik Sardionovich, 1970 D. O. B. Died during shelling of the city. Place of burial unknown. 122. Maldzigova Evgenija Nikolaevna, 1927 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 123. Dzhabiev Hamlet Georgievich, 1974 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 124. Chertkoev Inal Nikolaevich, 1957 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Tbet village. 125. Bestaev Tengiz Nikolaevich, 1950 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 126. Harebov Dmitry Dmitrievich, 1952 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Tbet village. 127. Tedeev Abe, 35 y/o. Killed during the conflict. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 128. Tedeev Vladimir Romanovich, 1948 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in the village of Kornis. 129. Dzhioev Radion Zurabovich, 1984 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 130. Bitiev Kazbek Borisovich, 1955 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in the village of Kornis. 131. Dzhagaev Radik Guramovich, 1983 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in the village of Kornis. 132. Tigiev Jeduard Kazbekovich, 1958 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 133. Dzhagaev Dzhumber Parmenovich, 1953 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 134. Nartikoev David Borisovich, 1980 D. O. B. Died while guarding an entrance to the city. Buried in Djava. 135. Hubezhov Aleksandr Dmitrievich, 1952 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 136. Dzhioev Malhaz Aleksandrovich, 1960 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 137. Dzhabiev Shaliko Gabaevich, 1957 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in the village of Kornis. 138. Kozaev Alan Pavlovich, 1967 D. O. B. Died during shelling of the city. Place of burial unknown. 139. Cibirov Jemzar Rezoevich, 1967 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in Dmenis village. 140. Chovrebov Hazbi Shalvovich, 1955 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 141. Alborov Leonid Zarbegovich, 1965 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in Dmenis village. 142. Dudaev Alan Andreevich, 1962 D. O. B. Killed by shrapnel from artillery fire. Buried in Dmenis village. 143. Kotolov Soltan Ilyich, 1953 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 144. Kulumbegov Hsar Grigorevich, 1945 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 145. Hugaev Sergey Sikoevich, 1940 D. O. B. Killed by air strike. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 146. Bagaev Oleg Valikoevich, 1964 D. O. B. Died during shelling of the city. Place of burial unknown. 147. Petoeva Ruzana Mihajlovna, 1916 D. O. B. Killed by shelling in Hetagurovo village. 148. Gazaev Ibragim Hazbievich, 1990 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 149. Bestaev Aleksey Sergeevich, 1952 D. O. B. Killed by air strike. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 150. Apaev Arsen Borisovich, 1964 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Tbet village. 151. Chekhoev Vladimir Vardanovich, 1960 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 152. Dzhabieva Zemfira Chermenovna, 1952 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 153. Sanakoev Jelbrus Kazbekovich, 1962 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 154. Bestaev Pavel Grigorevich, 1964 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 155. Kodalaev Guram Ilyich, 1952 D. O. B. Killed by air strike. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 156. Chovrebov Aleksey Vladimirovich, 1980 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 157. Sanakoev Petja Efimovich, 1940 D. O. B. Killed by a Georgian sniper during evacuation on Zarskoi road. . 158. Alborova Zalina Vladimirovna, 1963 D. O. B. Car hit by artillery fire. Buried in the courtyard of his apartment block. 159. Arsoev Sadul Severjanovich, 1950 D. O. B. Died during shelling of the city. Place of burial unknown. 160. Kelehsaev Roland Vissarionovich, 1960 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 161. Sabanov David Grigorevich, 1947 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 162. Dudaev Slavik Kazbekovich. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Tbet village. 163. Dzhioev Konstantin Zaurovich, 1954 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 164. Bestaev Valery Sergeevich, 1970 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Tbet village. 165. Kumaritov Valery Kuzmich, 1953 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 166. Tadtaev Dmitry Vjacheslavovich, 1983 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 167. Habalov Givi Vasilevich, 1961 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 168. Harebaty Zaur Vladimirovich, 1956 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 169. Chandieva Valentina Sergeevna, 1976 D. O. B. Killed when house was shelled. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 170. Dzhioev Aleksey Sergeevich, 1950 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 171. Kozaev Jelbrus (Muharbeg) Rutenovich, 1957 D. O. B. Hit by air strike on Tbet village. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 172. Gasseev Genady Nikolaevich, 1961 D. O. B. Killed by air strike. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 173. Zasseev Ruslan Grigorevich, 1956 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 174. Tibilov Murat Ivanovich, 1959 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 175. Tibilov Ivan Muratovich, 1941 D. O. B. Died during shelling of the city. Place of burial unknown. 176. Tibilov Vitaly Dzhumberovich, 1987 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 177. Ikaev Valery Vladimirovich, 1958 D. O. B. Killed by a Georgian sniper during evacuation on Zarskoi road. . 178. Kabulov Givi Ivanovich, 1953 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 179. Tedeev Volodja Matveevich, 1958 D. O. B. Hit by air strike on Tbet village. Buried in Jerco village. 180. Bolotaev Oleg Filippovich, 1957 D. O. B. Killed by a Georgian sniper during evacuation on Zarskoi road. . 181. Dzhioev Totyrbeg Ivanovich, 1964 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 182. Lalieva Valentina Sergeevna, 1940 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper during evacuation on Zarskoi road. 183. Puhaty Jedik Grigorevich, 1953 D. O. B. Killed when a car was shelled hlebovoza. Buried outside his house. 184. Dzhioev Genady Muratovich, 1948 D. O. B. Killed by air strike. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 185. Kochiev Jedik Sergeevich, 1961 D. O. B. Died during shelling of the city. Place of burial unknown. 186. Gagloev Hamlet G. , 1972 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 187. Ikoty Zahar (Aleksandr) Borisovich, 1947 D. O. B. Killed when a car was shelled. Buried outside his house. 188. Adzhiev Vadim Rutenovich, 1981 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 189. Lalieva Laida M. , 1979 D. O. B. Fatally wounded by shelling. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 190. Kokoev Dzhemal Revazovich, 1955 D. O. B. Killed when a car was shelled. Buried outside his house. 191. Kozaev Zelim Tutievich, 1975 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 192. Bjazrov Ludwig Hazbievich, 1970 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 193. Kozaev Lev Aleksandrovich, 1987 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 194. Kochiev Pavel Grigorevich, 1949 D. O. B. Killed by a Georgian sniper during evacuation on Zarskoi road. . 195. Dzhioev Gocha Georgievich, 1965 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Dmenis village. 196. Pliev Aleksandr Sergeevich, 1960 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 197. Bestaev Pavel Vardanovich, 1949 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 198. Gussalov Vasily Karamanovich, 1959 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 199. Gagiev Alik Pavlovich, 1976 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 200. Gassiev Barsag Zaharovich, 1985 D. O. B. Killed by a tank shot. . Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 201. Vazagov Gajoz Davidovich, 1942 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Dmenis village. 202. Kochiev Acamaz Anatolevich, 1978 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 203. Dzhioev Muhar Sergeevich, 1950 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 204. Gussalov Nikolay Vladimirovich, 1964 D. O. B. Killed in the conflict. Buried in a garden. 205. Kochiev Murat Davidovich, 1959 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 206. Gabaraev Fedor Georgievich, 1951 D. O. B. Killed when a car was shelled. Buried outside his house. 207. Dzoloev Nodar Nikolaevich, 1965 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 208. Guzzitaev Rafik Moiseevich, 1957 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 209. Kadzhaeva Jelina Kazbekovna, 1986 D. O. B. Wounded while the city was shelled. Buried alive in her house. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 210. Kadzhaev Zelim Zaurovich, 1965 D. O. B. Killed by a tank shot. . Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 211. Tebloev Chermen Petrovich, 1951 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 212. Tuaev Alan Ilyich, 1965 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 213. Gabuev Amzor Sosikoevich, 1940 D. O. B. Died during shelling of the city. Place of burial unknown. 214. Gagloeva Larisa Valikoevna, 1974 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 215. Loloev Slavik Sulikoevich, 1954 D. O. B. Died during shelling of the city. Place of burial unknown. 216. Gagloeva Fatima Gavrilovna, 1948 D. O. B. Fatally wounded by shelling. . Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 217. Tedeev Tolik Ivanovich, 1953 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 218. Ostaev Shalva Jeduardovich, 1973 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 219. Sanakoeva Aza Aleksandrovna, 1948 D. O. B. Killed when house was shelled. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 220. Tedeev Ibragim Gazanovaich, 1965 D. O. B. Killed in the conflict. Buried in Tbet village. 221. Tuaev Vasily Sergeevich, 1964 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 222. Alborov Vladimir Gersanovich, 1948 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 223. Valiev Luarsab Garitaevich, 1954 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 224. Bibilova Neli Alekseevna, 1938 D. O. B. Car hit by artillery fire. Buried in the courtyard of his apartment block. 225. Kadzhaev Tajmuraz Fedorovich, 1964 D. O. B. Died during shelling of the city. Place of burial unknown. 226. Bikoev Anatolij Dmitrievich, 1952 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 227. Gazzaev Vladik Albertovich, 1972 D. O. B. Killed in the conflict. Buried in a garden. 228. Alborova Natela Zaurovna, 1956 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 229. Hubaev Givi Davidovich, 1962 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Dmenis village. 230. Dzhioev Azamat Gamatovich, 1993 D. O. B. Died during shelling of the city. Place of burial unknown. 231. Lalieva Irina Borisovna, 1966 D. O. B. Fatally wounded by shelling. . Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 232. Tedeev Pavel Ivanovich, 1951 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 233. Muldarov Gajoz Grigorevich, 1972 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 234. Chovrebov Vladimir Inalovich, 1956 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 235. Guzzitaev Tamerlan Jasonovich, 1968 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 236. Bestaev Nikolay Gavrilovich, 1939 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 237. Dzhagaeva Liza Sandroevna, 1945 D. O. B. Fatally wounded by shelling. . Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 238. Ikoeva Roza Viktorovna, 1936 D. O. B. Killed during shelling of the city. Buried in Tbet village. 239. Goginov Robert Tengizovich, 1955 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 240. Tasoev Botaz Georgievich, 1946 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 241. Kelehsaev Zahar Sardionovich, 1940 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 242. Bagaev Feliks Jasonovich, 1955 D. O. B. Killed by a tank shot. . Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 243. Dzhioev Jelbrus Semenovich, 1973 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 244. Kadzhaev Soslan Kavkazovich, 1978 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 245. Guzitaev Zviad Nikolaevich,1974 . D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 246. Sabanov Hvicha Mihajlovich,1961 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 247. Gucaev Valery Tasolovich, 1949 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 248. Kachmazova Lena, 56 y/o. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 249. Besaev Alan Anatolevich, 1986 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 250. Dzhidzhoev Mitya Amiranovich, 1954 D. O. B. Killed when a car was shelled. Buried outside his house. 251. Sanakoev Vladimir Kubadievich, 1956 D. O. B. Killed when a car was shelled. Buried outside his house. 252. Sabanov Vasily Fedorovich, 1955 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 253. Kachmazova Zaira, 58 y/o. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 254. Gabaraev Vladimir Dmitrievich, 1972 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 255. Gigolaev Vadim Georgievich, 1963 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 256. Kulumbegov Radik Georgievich, 1966 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 257. Bekoev Alan Tuzarovich, 1974 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 258. Abaeva Manana Georgievna, 1966 D. O. B. Fatally wounded by shelling. . Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 259. Dzagoev Nodar Grigorevich, 1959 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 260. Dzigoev Alan Zurabovich, 1974 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 261. Abaeva Lejla (Zhuzhu) Pavlovna. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in a courtyard between apartment blocks. 262. Dzhioev Navroz Muhtarovich, 1953 D. O. B. Hit by shelling in Tbet village. Place of burial unknown. 263. Dzigoev Albert Shotaevich, 1982 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 264. Babaev Omar Lentoevich, 1956 D. O. B. Killed by a BM-21 Grad rocket. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 265. Asaev Valery Arshakovich, 1955 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 266. Kabulov Acamaz Tajmurazovich, 1988 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 267. Dzhioev Maharbek Chakoevich, 1946 D. O. B. Killed by a tank shot. . Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 268. Bestaev Hazbi Dmitrievich, 1933 D. O. B. Killed when a tank shot his apartment building. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 269. Dzhioev Almurat Aleksandrovich, 1976 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 270. Bagaeva Svetlana Georgievna, 1975 D. O. B. Car hit by artillery fire. Buried in the courtyard of his apartment block. 271. Zasseev Anatolij Filippovich, 1948 D. O. B. Hit by shelling in Tbet village. Place of burial unknown. 272. Kochieva Madina Chermenovna, 1963 D. O. B. Killed when house was shelled. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 273. Kumaritov Lev Hristoforovich, 1962 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 274. Tadtaev Georgy Pavlovich, 1986, D. O. B. Killed when a tank shot his apartment building. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 275. Gagloev Jedik Nikolaevich, 1954 D. O. B. Car hit by Georgian tank fire in Tbet village. Sgorel. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 276. Dzebisov Vladimir Ilyich, 1950 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 277. Gugkaev Alan Alanovich, 1977 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 278. Valiev Mihail Kuzmich, 1958 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 279. Tibilova Zalina Nikolaevna, 1956 D. O. B. Burned. Car was hit by a Georgian tank shell in Tbet village. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 280. Kokoev Leva Jashaevich, 1951 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 281. Gasseev Vitaly Nikolaevich, 1963 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 282. Beteev Auzbi Borisovich, 1972 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 283. Kadzhaeva Liana Sergeevna, 1960 D. O. B. Burned. Car was hit by a Georgian tank shell in Tbet village. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 284. Tekhov Vladimir Alekseevich, 1975 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 285. Bigulaev Zaurbeg Davidovich, 1955 D. O. B. Hit by shelling in Tbet village. 286. Gubiev Jakov, 1930 D. O. B. Killed by Georgian sniper fire. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 287. Muldarov Zelim Efimovich, 1964 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 288. Valiev Yury Vladimirovich, 1956 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 289. Gagiev Valery Vladimirovich, 1978 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 290. Chovrebov Sevastjan V. , 1937 D. O. B. Hit by shelling in Tbet village. 291. Kumaritova Madina A. , 1938 D. O. B. Fatally wounded by shelling. . Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 292. Chibirov Vilen Valikoevich, 1975, D. O. B. Killed in the conflict. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 293. Kachmazov Igor Jurevich, 1963 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 294. Karkusov Feliks V. , 1940 D. O. B. Hit by shelling in Tbet village. 295. Gagiev Givi Grigorevich, 1942 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 296. Magkoeva Aza Pavlovna, 1949 D. O. B. Killed when house was shelled. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 297. Dzhabiev Vladimir Iosifovich, 1953 D. O. B. Killed by a tank shot. . Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 298. Kulumbegov Georgy Anatolevich, 1976 D. O. B. Killed in the conflict. Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 299. Kisieva Dunja Iraklievna, 1940 D. O. B. Killed in shelling of Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 300. Hubaev Murat Arsenovich, 1963 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 301. Kotaev Soslan Sadulovich, 1948 D. O. B. Killed by a tank shot. . Buried in courtyard of apartment block. 302. Bibilov Alan Georgievich, 1960 D. O. B. Killed in the conflict. Buried in Bibyltykau village. 303. Gabaraev Genady Matveevich, 1951 D. O. B. Killed during the conflict. Place of burial unknown. 304. Dzhigkaeva Lidija Vasilevna, 1947 D. O. B. Killed when house was shelled. Buried in Vladikavkaz. 305. Kuduhov Vsevolod Ilyich, 1947 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper. Buried in Dmenis village. 306. Bazzaeva Zhenja Gavrilovna, 1940 D. O. B. Killed in shelling of Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 307. Dzhabiev Albert Vasilevich, 1976 D. O. B. Killed in the conflict. Buried in Rustau village. 308. Parastaev Lev Pavlovich, 1949 D. O. B. Killed when a car was shelled. Buried outside his house. 309. Kabisov Vasily Sosoevich, 1936 D. O. B. Killed by artillery fire on Zarskoi road. Place of burial unknown. 310. Bolataeva Zemfira Aleksandrovna, 1941 D. O. B. Fatally wounded by shelling. . Buried in Zguderskom cemetery. 311. Dzahov Valery Borisovich, 1987 D. O. B. Shot by a Georgian sniper during the conflict. . Buried in Tbet village.

check this thread for the ossetian dead list....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Where is the evidence that these were civilians? Once you've found proof that these were civilians, and not separatist fighters, where is your proof they they were deliberately targeted? And once you have proof that they were deliberately targeted, where is your proof that they were not just misidentified?

Rockets missing their target and hitting the wrong people is not genocide. People being in the same building as a target and getting killed with them is not genocide. A couple of rogue units going crazy and killing a bunch of people isn't genocide either - it's murder on their part, but it's not genocide on behalf of their government.

High collateral damage cannot be avoided when a force is armed primarily with outdated SOVIET equipment.

You keep screaming genocide like a Russian-trained parrot. You keep posting these worthless crap articles that are based on the word of Russian and South Ossetian "officials" as their sources. And here you sit, stewing in anger and wallowing in your sick hatred, with no proof whatsoever that any genocide actually occurred. All you have is a list of collateral damage, provided by the legitimate government of one of the forces directly involved in the conflict.

Edit to add:

In fact, while I'm asking for proof, where's your proof that all these people with "place of burial: unknown" are even dead to begin with? Or that they died because of the fighting?

[edit on 6-9-2008 by mattifikation]

Originally posted by mattifikation
Where is the evidence that these were civilians?

The fact that many of them were killed on Zarskoi road. This was the main evacuation route for civilians. The separatist fighters wouldn't be sitting around on the wide open road.

And if you take time to read it, the list does mention if the dead were part of S Ossetian police force or militia (amounting to fighters).

Originally posted by mattifikation
Once you've found proof that these were civilians, and not separatist fighters, where is your proof they they were deliberately targeted?

There is a documentary I posted in a new thread earlier titled "Wounds of Tskhinvali". That will have some of the proof for you. I am sure as this clears up, more will follow.

As for deliberately targeted - there were no major military installations in Tskhinvali. Georgians used Grad launchers (pretty much carpet bombing), as well as possibly cluster bombs. The documentary I talked about shows that nearly every civilian house in Tskhinvali is damaged.

As for proof - this is war not a movie. Deliberacy of actions is hard to prove as an after-though, but it can be deduced from facts such as the ones provided. There is still no definitive proof that Serbians are guilty of war crimes, or that the Holocaust is "real". Some people simply won't be satisfied short of actually witnessing the events.

Originally posted by mattifikation
And once you have proof that they were deliberately targeted, where is your proof that they were not just misidentified?

Oh look I just burned your house and killed your family. No worries - I misidentified your house for a fireplace, and your family for firewood

Carpetbombing of a civilian city is hardly misidentification. And even then - misidentification does not prove that one isn't guilty. If they didn't know what the fruck they were shooting at - why did they shoot to begin with?

Originally posted by mattifikation
People being in the same building as a target and getting killed with them is not genocide.

And what in your opinion was the target in Tskhinvali? Old ladies? Hospitals? Families with kids? Apartment buildings?

Originally posted by mattifikation
A couple of rogue units going crazy and killing a bunch of people isn't genocide either - it's murder on their part, but it's not genocide on behalf of their government.

Georga conducted a well documented artillery strike on a civilian city in the midst of a declared ceasefire. There is footage of this, and Georgia admits it.

Originally posted by mattifikation
High collateral damage cannot be avoided when a force is armed primarily with outdated SOVIET equipment.

Why start a war knowing that there will be high "collateral damage"? And "collateral damage" is a term widely thrown around these days by entities that partake in war often (read U.S.). WTF gives them the right to have collateral damage to begin with, in an unjustified war?

Originally posted by mattifikation
All you have is a list of collateral damage

9/11 was collateral damage too. So was Pearl Harbor. So was the holocaust. Anyone can say collateral damage. It is not an excuse of any kind.

Originally posted by mattifikation
In fact, while I'm asking for proof, where's your proof that all these people with "place of burial: unknown" are even dead to begin with?

Place of burial unknown means that their relatives or someone who knew them witnessed their death, but had to leave them behind to evacuate.

Double post

[edit on 6-9-2008 by maloy]