By 2007 Government and Media will begin to leak truth of alien visitors

Thats about it in a nutshell

In the next couple years you will hear some hints of this in the mainstream media.

By 2007 it will be everything but a direct anouncement by the President saying "There Here !!!"

By 2009 it will be common knowledge.

Originally posted by watcheroftheskies
Thats about it in a nutshell

In the next couple years you will hear some hints of this in the mainstream media.

By 2007 it will be everything but a direct anouncement by the President saying "There Here !!!"

By 2009 it will be common knowledge.

And by 2012 they will have established the NWO with Aliens (the anti-christ) in charge. Good call

Watcher , what makes you say this? I would love nothing more than to know that there are others out there. I've always found it hard (and arrogant) to believe that ours is the only planet with intelligent beings on it. I'm not really into the discussions about the greys and the plans for the DIA underground but they do peak my interest.

it seems we may be in complete agreement liblam.

although i find it strange how we share some of the same feelings on this

Note they may not be in charge by then though but then again they maybe
either way it looks like its going to be a helluva ride for theese fleshy bodies....Eh?

I like to know too what makes you say this...
Life in the cosmos is very real and I am still
wondering when they will be contacted and who's
the one starting it. but I don't know the time. hope
soon but if its 2007 ... we have to see I like the idea.
like some one said... its not the question if but when...

Originally posted by titian
Watcher , what makes you say this? I would love nothing more than to know that there are others out there. I've always found it hard (and arrogant) to believe that ours is the only planet with intelligent beings on it. I'm not really into the discussions about the greys and the plans for the DIA underground but they do peak my interest.

Think of it like this... a microbe on a grain of sand on a beach says: "I wonder if there's any life on the other side of the beach". All the microbes on the same grain of sand say: "Nah, you're crazy! We can't find any evidence of it!".

It's laughable to think we're the only life in the universe, given a proper perspective. We, as humans, have a different perspective than this microbe on a grain of sand, and if we could talk to the microbe we would laugh and say that this is the stupidest question we've ever heard... OF COURSE there's life on the other part of the sand. We could then say that besides this sand tehre's an ocean, and other land, and even different lands, different planets, universes....

But all that would be WAY over the microbe's head. He's just curious about another grain of sand. The concept of ocean or another beach is way beyond him. He thinks he and his buddies are the only living beings that exist, and "existance" for him is defined as the beach, as that's all there is.

With this analogy, it's fun to watch humans struggle with these same questions....

Im wondering just how long they can actually hide the truth for. One of these days they'll slip up bad and have to admit the truth or dig a deeper lie to cover the previous lie

Originally posted by watcheroftheskies
it seems we may be in complete agreement liblam.

although i find it strange how we share some of the same feelings on this

Note they may not be in charge by then though but then again they maybe
either way it looks like its going to be a helluva ride for theese fleshy bodies....Eh?

It's always a helluva ride for fleshy bodies! When did fleshy bodies not have a helluva ride, what time of our history was peaceful, tranquil, and heavenly anyway?

Helluva rides define us, or so it seems. Very often we get suckered into initiating things we have little or no understanding of, as humans like to jump at opportunities to please the self without reviewing all possible risks and outcomes. Who cares if a few million people die? Who cares of the planet gets polluted and most species on it die out? The point is to line our pockets with gold!

This lesson seems to cycle over and over throughout our histories...

Speaking of cycles, is it possible that the world has cycles for everything? Cataclysms for example? What about alien visitation? Seems like everything works in cycles... planet revolution, seasons, weaks, day/night, sleep/wake, even electrons cycle around atoms.

Perhaps, just PERHAPS all the stuff that's happening on this planet is just part of a LARGER cycle, one that's so large that our history isn't "extensive" enough to see a pattern just yet. Perhaps any "end of the world" scenarios are cyclical, and civilizations such as ours came and went for INFINITY as we measure time?

Well that's one big can of worms that would be fun to open, and research, in my humble opinion.

i wish i could explain it in laymens terms my good friend
i just have not found a way to yet

[Edited on 18-3-2004 by watcheroftheskies]

Why not now? They could leak "signs" or whatever that the average idiot would ignore.

there already has been some leaks but they are mostly in alignment with disinformation and some times theese leaks are very subtle
whether it be through t.v. programming...movies or books

disinfo with a little truth usually works quite well for them

From what I know about alien visitors, the big truth maybe that there was never been any documented case of alien visitors. We are alone on Earth and wont be hanging out with ET until we go find them far far away.

Originally posted by watcheroftheskies
there already has been some leaks but they are mostly in alignment with disinformation and some times theese leaks are very subtle
whether it be through t.v. programming...movies or books

disinfo with a little truth usually works quite well for them

Look at it this way... if there were no "leaks", we would have no such concept as UFO's or a picture of a standard alien (gray). Apparently something, somewhere, somehow, has been leaked, either on purpose or by accident. Most likely on purpose... as part of dissemination of information and the process of acclimation of the populace to the general idea of aliens.

Before 20th century, the concept of UFO's and aliens (especially grays) was probably much less common, and in fact, almost unheard of.

So either this is just a popular fantasy, or something has been leaked. If one does enough research, regarding government coverops, secret projects, and many other things, a picture begins to build itself.. and tends to hint towards the fact that this is NOT fantasy... though much is disinformation. It tends to demonstrate that there is an agenda (well many of them) in relation to this phenomena, and ET's are indeed around, and have been for a long "time" as we measure time.

This cannot be easily explained, or proven to ANOTHER, and individual research is often necessary to acquire enough proof. I've already mentioned this in another post, where I said "If I have a UFO in my back yard, with 3 grays outside drinkign a cappacino, this wouldn't provide proof to YOU would it". The point is, some things you know simply from personal experience, deductive reasoning, and many other sources of information that one must compile and understand.

That is why it's so complicated and the issue tends to be so confused. This is also why disinformation is easily spread and people go for it, and why so many people can so easily deny the existance of ET's, as they have NOT done the research themselves. They are waiting for it to drop on their lap on a silver platter. Well, they can keep waiting.

[Edited on 18-3-2004 by lilblam]

well your right there liblam
This life is diffulcult
do you think it is a test to see how much crap you can put up with

Originally posted by watcheroftheskies
well your right there liblam
This life is diffulcult
do you think it is a test to see how much crap you can put up with

How could Columbus prove to people that the Earth was not flat? Until someone went out and did research, or experimented carefully with this (either by looking at motions of stars etc, or just walked around the planet), it can be DENIED. Columbus couldn't PROVE to the people that it wasn't flat, so he decided to just GO AROUND IT as a demonstration.

Now, even afterwards, it took a while for the populace to adjust to this whole round-earth idea, but the alien phenomena seems to be analagous. Until you go out and DO the work, INVESTIGATE, be vigilant, and keep your eyes open with an OPEN MIND, you'll always think the Earth is flat, or in this case, that the aliens either don't exist or are at least not around our planet.

And this, at least in my view, relates back to the idea of religion and belief. How does one "believe" if aliens exist, or believe that they do not? Does this belief make any kind of difference or impact on REALITY? Therefore, does belief ever equal reality, unless by pure coincidence?

Therefore, if one wants to KNOW whether aliens are here or not, what would be the steps to accomplish this? Well that's a funny question, cuz there really is no right or wrong way of going about this "research". However, there are ways that are more beneficial than others - but they must be found individually. They can be shared with others, but it is always upto the individual to decide to implement them, based on the best knowledge available to them. Belief doesn't seem to play into this AT ALL. Belief seems to be ingineered to prevent people from SEARCHING for the truth, but instead just go along with public consensus or what others say.

Seems like we're all just programmed to react to stimuli, like drones, rather than think individually. We're programmed with beliefs, and these programs block logical deductions entirely, if they interfere with belief. They will also block the TRUTH, if confronted, if this truth is somehow different from the current system of belief that dominates the mind.

Anyways, just some thoughts that may be worth thinking about...

[Edited on 18-3-2004 by lilblam]

I always look to the skies for anything unknown, I have asked members of NASA if they know anything, and I have seen way too many hoaxes and even have done one or two myself(incredibly easily if you make you're home-made UFO fly by a crowd of people) with some helium ballons, flares, and things that flash, engineered to a be a lighter than air piece of trash.
There are no legit sites on the internet that have gave me any reason to believe. If they are here they have been extremly well covered or just a very small number of visitors and ships.
Humans have a fantastic imagination, look at mythology and such, there were quacks who reported seeing civilizations on the moon which provoked the imagination of many, and the alien we are familiar with today can be just an evolution of our imagination to shape a believible being(the gray) that everyone can agree that if they saw that kind of being it would have to be from outer space.
The only piece of evidence I have that makes me wonder is airline pilots see wierd stuff all the time and rarely report it because, It is not popular to report seeing a UFO, a lot of paper work to deal with, and those who have are treated like they're crazy and seeing things and risk their reputation.

one night at work i showed a ufo to a sceptic i worked with .
He was a navigator on bombers in Korea
well when i showed him this ufo outside work one night he couldnt beleive but he ended up beleiving
He went home and told his wife and kids and did they break his cahones ....they said dad your nuts and honey are you sure it wasnt something else
At this time i had spotted more than a handful with other people and by my self
They all beleive now!!!

Originally posted by jrod
I always look to the skies for anything unknown, I have asked members of NASA if they know anything, and I have seen way too many hoaxes and even have done one or two myself(incredibly easily if you make you're home-made UFO fly by a crowd of people) with some helium ballons, flares, and things that flash, engineered to a be a lighter than air piece of trash.

And does this lack of apparent visible evidence convince you that the entire thing is a hoax? Is this enough for you? If you've never seen a subway before, and asked others and they say they haven't either, would you be convinced that subways dont' exist? I'm just saying, and you most likely know, that there's more to this than the word of a few nasa people, and a UFO-free clear blue sky..
Also, UFO's themselves don't mean aliens either, as you said in the passage below... so this cannot be a way to "prove" aliens (I put that in quotes as proof is often subjective and relative and depends on individual, rather than being universal).

There are no legit sites on the internet that have gave me any reason to believe. If they are here they have been extremly well covered or just a very small number of visitors and ships.

No need to believe though! Did all the sites on the internet give you at least an idea that something out of the ordinary human fantasy is going on? That would be a start...

If not, keep searching!

Humans have a fantastic imagination, look at mythology and such, there were quacks who reported seeing civilizations on the moon which provoked the imagination of many, and the alien we are familiar with today can be just an evolution of our imagination to shape a believible being(the gray) that everyone can agree that if they saw that kind of being it would have to be from outer space.

Not too believable... I could go for grays being genetically deformed humans! See, not so "universally agreeable after all". Just look at the humans who are born in radiated parts of Iraq and other areas of the world (thank you USA), they sometimes look as far away from human as a goat does. Also, I dunno about a moon civilization, but there's a theory that there's an alien base on the far side of the moon. You can't possibly discount this until you have evidence that it's not true, can you? We've never been to that side! And if we have, what are the chances that the government will just tell you about the little green men?

And yes, humans have an imagination, this is why this matter is not easy to sort through! No one said that this won't be frustrating or easy to figure out, with all the lies, disinfo, coverups, illusions, half-truths, and fantasy stories. However, if you think finding out the truth once and for all will be WORTH IT, then by all means don't give up the search. One way or another, the truth IS out there, waiting to be known. It all depends on your motivation and drive to find it. Careful about anticipation, however. If you have certain expectations about what the truth should be, that's pretty much having a belief, an anticipation, and you may miss the truth entirely if it doesn't match your expectations. Just a word of caution in your search

The only piece of evidence I have that makes me wonder is airline pilots see wierd stuff all the time and rarely report it because, It is not popular to report seeing a UFO, a lot of paper work to deal with, and those who have are treated like they're crazy and seeing things and risk their reputation.

So take it from there! Find details of accounts by the pilots, maybe find a pilot and interview one.. there are infinite possibilities as to what you can do and where you can start! It all depends on how far you're willing to go to find this truth, and how open minded you are. If you go too fast, you may miss the finer details.

And yup, I understand your frustration, having something hang over your nose but be invisible is really annoying

Already talked t some pilots, that why I know it is common for them to see bizarre stuff if they have an eye for it.

The Mahatmas of the Himalayas have known of the 4th dimensional invaision from outerspace for a long time.

One of them Djwal Kuhl,writing through Alice Bailey, revealed it in the book treatise on cosmic fire. commenting on the origin of cosmic evil he observed that there were disintigrating constellationos in the universe ,unknown and unrecognized by scientists.Theese constellations have a malefic effect upon our system and upon all that passes into there sphere of influence

there is one such constellation situated between the lesser dipper and our system and another, interrelated with the pleiadesand our system,which still have a profound effect upon the physical body of the solar logos. Thats his cryptic way of saying that we are being invaded by advanced beings from other systems and they have no morals or ethics.