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My post above should serve as a warning - be careful of mixing alcohol and late night browsing on ATS

Originally posted by Jazzyguy
Don't realize there's a new forum on ATS, must have missed the U2U.

Funny though, I don't think a global economic meltdown is ever gonna happen. But then again who knows.

Well if you do the maths then it's almost certain

Listen to what this guy has to say

Most fiat currencies only last 40 years and thursands have come and gone since the romans so why do you find it so hard to beleive and so easy to turn you're back on history.

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Thanks, I will enjoy this fourm. My small business workes on foreclosed homes from securing to evictions..... I am an expert at this and I know and use the current HUD standards. I have secured and or worked on more than $20 million dollars in residential real estate in the last 7 years.....

I am very knowledgable about the foreclosure field and construction. I even worked 18 months in a nuke plant of the same design which melted down in Japan.

I have just found a great article which I am getting ready to post.

I am very curious how this thread starts in August 2008, 1 month before the Meltdown!? That really is above top secret info. How did you know?

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The March 2014 Arctic sea ice volume, as calculated by the Pan-Arctic Ice Ocean Modeling and Assimilation System (PIOMAS) at the Polar Science Center, was the 2nd lowest on record at 21.818 km³. Only March 2011 had a lower volume, at 21.421 km³, as illustrated by the graph below, by Wipnews.
arctic-news.blogspot.ru...

Complete Global Economic Collapse is Inevitable


Broke nations are bailing out other broke nations with borrowed money. Round and round we go - where we stop nobody knows. As of April, 41 different countries had active financial “arrangements” with the IMF. Sometimes they are called “bailouts” and sometimes they are called other things, but in every single case they involve loans. And most of the time, these loans come with very stringent conditions. It is a form of “global governance” that most people don’t even know about. For decades, the IMF has been able to use money as a way to force developing nations to do what it wants them to do. But up until fairly recently, this had mostly only been done with poor nations. But now an increasing number of wealthy nations are turning to the IMF for help. We have already seen Greece, Portugal, Ireland and Cyprus receive bailouts which were partly funded by the IMF, Spain has received a bailout for its banking sector, and as I noted yesterday, it is being projected that Italy will need a major bailout within six months. How long can this go on before the entire system collapses?

Well, that would depend on how much money the lender has.

And so where does the IMF get their money?

The IMF gets their money from a bunch of nations that are absolutely drowning in debt themselves.

The IMF is funded by “wealthy” nations that dominate the global economy. The following is how Wikipedia describes the IMF’s quota system…


The IMF’s quota system was created to raise funds for loans. Each IMF member country is assigned a quota, or contribution, that reflects the country’s relative size in the global economy. Each member’s quota also determines its relative voting power. Thus, financial contributions from member governments are linked to voting power in the organization.

These are the five largest contributors to IMF funding…

United States - 16.75%

Japan - 6.23%

Germany - 5.81%

France - 4.29%

UK - 4.29%

But those countries are in trouble themselves. The U.S. has a debt to GDP ratio of over 100%. Japan has a debt to GDP ratio of over 200%.

The truth is that these countries are funding the IMF with borrowed money.

So what happens when the contributors run out of money and can’t contribute anymore?

All over the globe, an increasing number of countries are reaching out to the IMF for help. For example, on Thursday we learned that Pakistan is getting a new bailout from the IMF…


Pakistan and the International Monetary Fund have reached an initial agreement on a bailout of at least $5.3 billion.

Pakistani Finance Minister Muhammad Ishaq Dar and IMF mission chief Jeffrey Franks announced the agreement at a press conference Thursday.

And the new government in Egypt is hoping that the revolution that just occurred will not stop the flow of IMF funds…


In recent months, a handful of neighboring countries such as Qatar have been keeping Egypt’s economy afloat by loaning the country’s central bank cash. That has bought Morsi government time to delay implementing the politically-sensitive measures the IMF has sought as a precondition before it gives Cairo a $4.8 billion credit line. In particular, the IMF had said that Egypt must raise taxes and begin phasing out fuel subsidies.

It’s not the only cash at stake. Other international donors have vowed another $9.7 billion for the country once the IMF program is in place. Roughly $1.55 billion in bilateral aid from Washington could also be held up: under U.S. law, the administration can’t loan money to countries where the military is involved in an unconstitutional change in government.

But what often happens with these bailouts is that the “conditions” that are imposed prove extremely difficult to meet. For example, Greece has not implemented all of the “reforms” that they were ordered to implement, and so the flow of future funds may be threatened…


As Greece looks set to miss a key reform deadline set by international lenders, which could jeopardize further financial aid, a Greek government minister said it wasn’t Greece’s fault that it couldn’t live up to the demands of a flawed bailout program.

"There are failures [by Greece],but you assume that the program that has been effectively imposed on us is perfect, which is far from the case," Nikos Dendias, minister of Public Order and Citizen Protection, told CNBC on Thursday.

His comments come after Greek finance ministry officials said on Wednesday that Greece would not meet targets on reforming its public sector by the deadline set by international lenders, putting further financial aid in jeopardy.

Once a nation gets hooked on bailout money from the IMF or from other international sources, it can be very hard to get off of it. But that is what these globalist organizations like - they want to be able to use money as a form of control.

As we saw with Greece, sometimes a nation will need bailout after bailout. And it appears that is also going to be the case with Portugal. The Portuguese government is on the verge of collapsing and their financial situation is being described as "very fragile"…


Portugal had been held up as an example of a bailout country doing all the right things to get its economy back in shape. That reputation is now harder to sustain and even before this latest crisis, the International Monetary Fund reported last month that Lisbon’s debt position was “very fragile”.

Coming soon after the near-collapse of the Greek government, which has been given until Monday to show it can meet the demands of its own EU-IMF bailout, the euro zone may be on the brink of falling back into full-on crisis.

Right now, Portuguese bond yields are absolutely soaring and the Portuguese economy is rapidly heading into depression.

Portugal is going to desperately need the assistance of the IMF.

But what happens when the nations that primarily fund the IMF start failing themselves?

The U.S. is a complete and total financial disaster and so is Japan. Much of Europe is already experiencing a full-blown economic depression and even China is showing signs of trouble.

So if the “wealthy” nations fail, who is going to be there to help the “poor” nations?

This Post is alerting the reader to a Global Melt-UP in Shanghai & the Global Melt-Down of the COMEX Silver


~ Alert for September 22nd 2014 ~



here is a heads up on where to rebalance/adding to: your Precious Metals holdings...
i can only afford maybe 10 OZ of silver at the present premium but even that little bit should get the investor a 10% ROI
(unless you are a 'stacker' who buys & holds)... for future trade-barter needs as i do....

i.e.: $210. grows to $2000. in 3 months ! Don't miss this opportunity for a 10% ROI on purchasing as little as a 10 OZ bar Ag or 10 Coins Ag


source: usawatchdog.com...

In China, on September 22, they are going to have a futures market similar to Comex, but it will be in physical metal.

You settle in physical metal. So, for the first time, you are going to see the pure price discovery mechanism work,
and it’s going to be in total conflict to the crimes that are being committed on the Comex.

(Mr) Organ thinks silver will trade at “$200 per ounce” and says, “By December, this whole thing is going to collapse. . . .
A year ago, Shanghai’s (China) silver inventory was approximately 33 million ounces. Today, it is 2.9 million ounces.
It is losing about 2 million ounces per month, which means they have maybe two months’ supply left. . . .
Where is China going to get its silver? The only above ground hoard of silver that is left is at the Comex.
I don’t think much is there, but whatever is left, China is going to grab it. . . .

They have Comex surrounded (with long positions on silver) and that is the end game.”

live long & prosper...stack as much (Ag) Silver as you can carry

Thanks very much, very useful information!

The European Central Bank policy risks really to create a meltdown of Hyperinflation. The specter of a new German hyperinflation, similar to the one during the 30s is an ominous sign for peace in the world.

Whose banking system will blow first, Britain or the Netherlands? Overdependency on financial speculation and dangerous financial services heavily affects both countries, but considering the additional dependency that the Netherlands has with the bankrupt EU and all the internal broken dutch banking system which constantly reduces interest rates to be paid to customers, one could easily say that the dutch banking system is gonna break first and drag Germany into chaos together with it.

Switzerland being the land that historically houses the EU criminal elite's money is notw approaching a condition of financial collapse following the EU's complete economic system collapse. Lots of blood will flow along the roads of those who help the EUro#ers in their criminal plans against the European people, especially those who house the financial means and support the EUrocriminals financially. Switzerland will have to prepare for massive terrorism and continued unsecurity.

originally posted by: Rockpuck
Anyone know what ever happened to Relentless?

Ohmygosh - Can't even begin to explain, and I can't believe I am still FSME here - is this still active? SMH I feel I owe y'all an apology.

a reply to: numberjuggler

"I am very curious how this thread starts in August 2008, 1 month before the Meltdown!? That really is above top secret info. How did you know?"

Hmmmmm......

originally posted by: Jazzyguy
Don't realize there's a new forum on ATS, must have missed the U2U.

Funny though, I don't think a global economic meltdown is ever gonna happen. But then again who knows.

Massive layoffs and unemployment. Businesses shutting down and you don't see the implications for a meltdown?
Virtually all of these people have more than one credit card. When the unemployed max out all of their available credit heaping massive debt obligations onto the bank ledgers and these banks freeze all credit people will turn to hard cash thereby causing a run on the banks. The banks close for the situation to stabilize leaving the public without either credit or cash. What's next? Crime?

a reply to: marg6043

Hi Marg6043, Just checking things out. I have not been on for a long time. I have recognized your name Marg and it is good to see you.

Mahree