Hawass interview of July 28, 2008

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Andrew: Well, speaking of Giza, and I always ask you about this, the next step in the exploration of the Queen’s Chamber shafts. I’ve been following up on this over the years. I know last time we spoke about it you were testing a new robot and you had some failed tests. What is the present disposition of this? People are always very interested and constantly ask me about this.

Zahi: I meet now with people from Singapore, and scientists from Manchester University, and also from Hong Kong, and we built a kind of a tunnel in the desert, similar to the one in the Great Pyramid, and they made 3 times experiments. And next month we have the final experiment. After that, we’ll choose the team to continue the work.

Andrew: Do you have any timeframe as to when you will do the next exploration?

Zahi: We will hope that it’s the beginning of next year, maximum.

[edit on 29/8/08 by Hanslune]

Originally posted by Hanslune
Spotlight

Some up to date info on new museums, tunnel exploration and etc.

Andrew: Well, speaking of Giza, and I always ask you about this, the next step in the exploration of the Queen’s Chamber shafts. I’ve been following up on this over the years. I know last time we spoke about it you were testing a new robot and you had some failed tests. What is the present disposition of this? People are always very interested and constantly ask me about this.

Zahi: I meet now with people from Singapore, and scientists from Manchester University, and also from Hong Kong, and we built a kind of a tunnel in the desert, similar to the one in the Great Pyramid, and they made 3 times experiments. And next month we have the final experiment. After that, we’ll choose the team to continue the work.

Andrew: Do you have any timeframe as to when you will do the next exploration?

Zahi: We will hope that it’s the beginning of next year, maximum.

[edit on 29/8/08 by Hanslune]

FINALLY! The Great Hinderer Hawass is going to let us get some answers.....or (to be cliche)will it just be more questions?

I think we'll find behind door #1

Rocks - but one never knows it might be something more interesting. It will also be worth seeing what they've come up with that can go up that narrow channel and drill thru-while allowing people to see what is going on. Not an easy task.

I believe that Hawass will remove anything that may disprove the excepted official status of ancient Egypt. If I'm not mistaken is it not said that it holds one of the ancient Atlantian libraries or is that under the Sphinx?

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Howdy Jade

The Cayce dude made up a story about one of the Libraries being under the Sphinx.

How would Hawass get to that stuff and remove it? He's sixty-one, a bit overweight and not in the best of shape - sorry just being funny. More seriously how would he do that?

Hello Hanslune

LoL yes he is old. It would be rather hard for the man to do it by himself. I would find it rather amusing if all they found were several coffers filled with mfktz.

On a side note I do not trust the man as far as I could launch him from a trebuchet. When I have a good nights rest I can give you a better answer lol

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Sleep well Jade

But

Maybe it's tonight (early morning in Misr right now) they are going to remove the tons of stone to get to the area where the shaft is thought to terminate....oh, er, ah, well maybe not.

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Greetings Hanslune

Secretary General of the Supreme Council of Antiquities is not going to allow any information out into the public that would certainly damage the views and reputation of ancient Egypt. Dr. Hawass is going to more then likely have a special team go into the chamber or whatever is on the other side the door first. Then after they are finished Dr. Hawass will have film crews come in to film the event. Don’t get me wrong Dr. Hawass is a credit to Egyptology, he is also part of the establishment.

Originally posted by JadePhoenix
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Greetings Hanslune

Secretary General of the Supreme Council of Antiquities is not going to allow any information out into the public that would certainly damage the views and reputation of ancient Egypt. Dr. Hawass is going to more then likely have a special team go into the chamber or whatever is on the other side the door first. Then after they are finished Dr. Hawass will have film crews come in to film the event. Don’t get me wrong Dr. Hawass is a credit to Egyptology, he is also part of the establishment.

Howdy Jade

I think we are talking about different things. I'm talking about exploring past the second slab (sometimes called the 'door') which is at the end of a 16-21 cm wide shaft that runs up to but AFAIK doesn't penetrate the outer covering of the pyramid.

Nobodies going to get into that area by way of the shaft.

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Yes we are talking about the same thing. I think I may be thinking about something else all together lol

Hey maybe Hawass has [going into extreme conspiracy mode] some shrink ray technology from aliens [/leaving extreme conspiracy mode]

It will be interesting to see if they can figure out how to move the first door, move thru that portal and get past the second one too*. I've been wondering how they might get thru that first piece of limestone.

* I suspect they'll drill to see if there is anything behind the second one first.

That's a pretty stark office for a man who heads up antiquities in a country with some of the richest history on the planet. Kind of strange if you ask me.

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Hmmmm large rosewood desk, wall paneling, comfy chair and a gold framed picture of the president for life. The fact that everything is NOT fly spotted, cracked and stained also shows its airconditioned and fairly new, 1st class for the land of Misr. Rather spiffy for Egypt.

Most Egyptians live in what the west would consider rat holes.

Gross National Income per capita Egypt 1,426 USD per person

Gross National Income per capita USA 44,710 USD per person

That's not quite what I meant. I thought there would be more do-dads. Maybe he's not a do-dad kind of guy. Maybe he doesn't spend a lot of time in his office, so there's no real reason for him to have a lot of stuff there.

It just seems kind of empty for a man who heads up Egyptian antiquities. I'd forgive the guy if he had a knock-off papyrus or two on the wall. It would say, "I'm steeped in my country, but I care enough about it to keep the real stuff where it belongs."

Just a personal opinion based on a personal observation about his personal space. No big deal. That is quite a desk though.

Originally posted by Hanslune
I think we'll find behind door #1

Rocks - but one never knows it might be something more interesting. It will also be worth seeing what they've come up with that can go up that narrow channel and drill thru-while allowing people to see what is going on. Not an easy task.

Agreed, not a chance there will be anything remotely earth shattering in there, probably got rid of it a long time ago, this will be a stunt to shut people up who keep asking about these 'secret chambers', aswell as a way to discredit certain groups.

EMM

Agreed, not a chance there will be anything remotely earth shattering in there, probably got rid of it a long time ago, this will be a stunt to shut people up who keep asking about these 'secret chambers', aswell as a way to discredit certain groups.

So as noted above EMM explain how they would have "gotten rid" of stuff in that area?

Discredit who?

Seuth: I see what you mean. Most archaeologists offices look like a rats nest. He may be a minimalist.

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If what Dr. Hawass finds anything behind door #2 (and I'm not saying he will find anything) but if he does how ever and it does not coincide with his view point of ancient egypt we will never know what he found.

Originally posted by Hanslune
So as noted above EMM explain how they would have "gotten rid" of stuff in that area?

I have been thinking on this myself, and by now I'm sure you remember my views having discussed them a few times. Now I'm sure you know, between 2003-2005, the pyramids were closed for restoration, not all at once, but rotating, one restored at a time, while other two were open. I'm looking for pictures or accounts of people who were there at the time, to find out how much of the pyramids were 'sectioned off' but I'd say that this may have been a 'good time' to get anything they may had found out.

Some people believe that incredible finds aren't necesarily in the pyramids, I was recently reading a post of Scott Creighton, in which he includes pictures showing Hawass' wall. I originally thought Hawass' wall was to keep people from seeing into the 'Giza complex' IF anything were to be found, but I now see it as just as likely that it is used to keep people from wandering off anywhere.



Shows the 'apex' point, a fair distance from the Giza complex.



This shows that the apex point is 'walled off' from the Giza complex, I could speculate a secret dig, but I'm not sure how far off the 'point' is from this image, could be very close, could be miles off.



Even from the West, the area is fenced off from the road, this isn't even part of the complex, nothing of interest is apparenty here, from my understanding anyway.



...and I think this one is from the north end of this road, really don't want people even coming to the perimeter of the complex, this is around a...700m square area? give or take, between the road and Hawass' wall fenced off? Why?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Discredit who?

That depends on them, whoever disagree's with their ideas of where Egyptology should be going, I would think.

EMM

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Howdy Jade

That is going to be rather difficult don't you think? I suspect due to his known love of being on TV that the penetration of the first slab and certainly the penetration of the second one will be televised.

Remember they are in a building he knows and believes were built by the Egyptians. Logically he has no reason whatsoever to think he'll find anything odd in there. If he does I'm sure he'll put his name on it!

He is a media hound.

Howdy EMM

The Pyramids were closed for renovation of the ventilation systems so please explain how they tunneled up to that star shaft location without anyone noting it? Menkaure's is still closed I believe.

I'd take a look at those pictures again. They tend to contradict one another. One shows (taken by Jon) a open metal mesh fence and then another shows a heavy sold wall with towers. Both are labeled Hawass's wall. The first (the light one) is the wall that surrounds the pyramid plateau. The second is of a nearby Egyptian military site that borders the pyramid site.

Also I would suggest you go to Google earth and take a look at that area you'll get a better idea of what is where.

Added as I noticed I hadn't addressed one question

Why does the wall end where it does? I have no idea but the wall was built before Scott came up with his idea.

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Originally posted by Hanslune

Remember they are in a building he knows and believes were built by the Egyptians. Logically he has no reason whatsoever to think he'll find anything odd in there.

I think he knows alot more than he's letting on, he may seem to be a hardcore egyptologist, but I think this is mainly for pulic show.

Howdy EMM

The Pyramids were closed for renovation of the ventilation systems so please explain how they tunneled up to that star shaft location without anyone noting it? Menkaure's is still closed I believe.

honestly, I don't know, maybe they discovered other tunnels, other ways in than the traditional, maybe they made their own. That is one of the main reasons why I'm looking for images of the pyramids being restored, where they 'quarantined' so to speak? how did they prevent people getting in?

I'd take a look at those pictures again. They tend to contradict one another. One shows (taken by Jon) a open metal mesh fence and then another shows a heavy sold wall with towers. Both are labeled Hawass's wall. The first (the light one) is the wall that surrounds the pyramid plateau. The second is of a nearby Egyptian military site that borders the pyramid site.

I noticed this aswell, but having never seen the entirety of the wall myself, I couldn't say whether it was wall and mesh, or solid wall all the way round. I took the word of a better researcher than myself, I'll raise the question on the thread I linked. I didn't know about the military base though, it intrigues me, any more information on it? how long has it been there? is it the area that is shown fenced off in the pictures?

Also I would suggest you go to Google earth and take a look at that area you'll get a better idea of what is where.

I only got google maps, and there was very little detail of the area, not my laptop, so I can't DL google earth.

Why does the wall end where it does? I have no idea but the wall was built before Scott came up with his idea.

Does this change the theory? Sitchin had the same info in his 1970's book.

EMM

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